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  • What good are 'smart' guns?  Who will buy them?  No one.  There are hundreds of millions of 'stupid guns' already on the streets, that will last for decades.  

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    What good are 'smart' guns?  Who will buy them?  No one.  There are hundreds of millions of 'stupid guns' already on the streets, that will last for decades.  

    And after that?

    You have to start somewhere. Something being a lot of work or taking time to take hold aren't excuses to do nothing

  • @mld-woody said:

    So laws won't limit or prevent bad guys from getting guns.... But we should keep drugs illegal?

    Depends on the drug.

    There’s illegal drugs and legal drugs...a yin and a yang in some cases.

    Would we need Narcan if we can rid the streets of heroin?

    I don’t see the U.S. ever being drug free.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Depends on the drug.

    There’s illegal drugs and legal drugs...a yin and a yang in some cases.

    Would we need Narcan if we can rid the streets of heroin?

    I don’t see the U.S. ever being drug free.

    You're already saying that gun control laws will make no impact on gun violence. Why keep any drug illegal then?

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Depends on the drug.

    There’s illegal drugs and legal drugs...a yin and a yang in some cases.

    Would we need Narcan if we can rid the streets of heroin?

    I don’t see the U.S. ever being drug free.

    You're already saying that gun control laws will make no impact on gun violence. Why keep any drug illegal then?

    @mld-woody said:

    You're already saying that gun control laws will make no impact on gun violence. Why keep any drug illegal then?

    Well one of the reasons is a very similar reason that those who are against gun violence would never accept a zero tolerance policy. Lawyers, which comprises almost every one of our lawmakers, I would imagine rakes in a huge amount of money defending drug dealers pushers and users. Zero tolerance for gun possession would take away a big bite of the lawyers profits defending the scumbags.

    WSS

  • But remember Woody the consequences of the insane guy, which is probably 1 in millions, is a few people being shot at once. The consequences of somebody getting a hold on some crack or crystal meth are probably nothing more than he gets high. So it doesn't really make the news even with however many thousands of drug deaths there might be in a year. Just like we don't really care about handgun murders in the hood.

    But still even though those drugs are dangerous why should an adult, knowing what the consequences are to his self, not be allowed to buy them?

    WSS

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Depends on the drug.

    There’s illegal drugs and legal drugs...a yin and a yang in some cases.

    Would we need Narcan if we can rid the streets of heroin?

    I don’t see the U.S. ever being drug free.

    You're already saying that gun control laws will make no impact on gun violence. Why keep any drug illegal then?

    @mld-woody said:

    You're already saying that gun control laws will make no impact on gun violence. Why keep any drug illegal then?

    Well, we as a society have an obligation to protect the stupid people who walk among us.

    We could make all of the drugs as over the counter, including meth, heroin, cocaine, LSD and let the herd thin itself out...is that ok?

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

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    Dear God,

    What about all of those shootings not at schools?

    @mld-woody said:

    Dear God,

    What about all of those shootings not at schools?

    free will of evil, mentally deranged people. Who will commit violence all sorts of ways.

  • @mld-woody said:

    You're already saying that gun control laws will make no impact on gun violence. Why keep any drug illegal then?

    Well, we as a society have an obligation to protect the stupid people who walk among us.

    We could make all of the drugs as over the counter, including meth, heroin, cocaine, LSD and let the herd thin itself out...is that ok?

    @canton-dawg said:

    Well, we as a society have an obligation to protect the stupid people who walk among us.

    We could make all of the drugs as over the counter, including meth, heroin, cocaine, LSD and let the herd thin itself out...is that ok?

    I'm asking you. Either laws matter, or they don't. 

    If laws won't prevent bad guys from getting guns then there's no reason to try and make abortion illegal either. 

  • But remember Woody the consequences of the insane guy, which is probably 1 in millions, is a few people being shot at once. The consequences of somebody getting a hold on some crack or crystal meth are probably nothing more than he gets high. So it doesn't really make the news even with however many thousands of drug deaths there might be in a year. Just like we don't really care about handgun murders in the hood.

    But still even though those drugs are dangerous why should an adult, knowing what the consequences are to his self, not be allowed to buy them?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

     Just like we don't really care about handgun murders in the hood.

    Bingo!

    Funny you never hear how many blacks are murdered in Chicago each week.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Depends on the drug.

    There’s illegal drugs and legal drugs...a yin and a yang in some cases.

    Would we need Narcan if we can rid the streets of heroin?

    I don’t see the U.S. ever being drug free.

    You're already saying that gun control laws will make no impact on gun violence. Why keep any drug illegal then?

    @mld-woody said:

    You're already saying that gun control laws will make no impact on gun violence. Why keep any drug illegal then?

    There is no Amendment that guarantees Americans the right to own illegal drugs. they still get them.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Well, we as a society have an obligation to protect the stupid people who walk among us.

    We could make all of the drugs as over the counter, including meth, heroin, cocaine, LSD and let the herd thin itself out...is that ok?

    I'm asking you. Either laws matter, or they don't. 

    If laws won't prevent bad guys from getting guns then there's no reason to try and make abortion illegal either. 

    @mld-woody said:

    I'm asking you. Either laws matter, or they don't. 

    If laws won't prevent bad guys from getting guns then there's no reason to try and make abortion illegal either. 

    If you think even MORE gun laws will make difference, your living in a fantasy world.

    All that’s going to happen is there will be a sharp spike in the price of these weapons coming from south of the border.

    The drug cartels would love that scenario, they could smuggle drugs and guns...it would be a win win for them.

  • If we ban automobiles, we could save 22 teenage lives every day.

  • If we ban automobiles, we could save 22 teenage lives every day.

    @canton-dawg said:

    If we ban automobiles, we could save 22 teenage lives every day.

    Well Banning automobiles is a little bit facetious but how about raising the driving age to 21?

    WSS

  • What good are 'smart' guns?  Who will buy them?  No one.  There are hundreds of millions of 'stupid guns' already on the streets, that will last for decades.  

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    What good are 'smart' guns?  Who will buy them?  No one.  There are hundreds of millions of 'stupid guns' already on the streets, that will last for decades.  

    If no one buys them that's fine too. I'd rather no one bought one than everyone had 10

  • @canton-dawg said:

    If we ban automobiles, we could save 22 teenage lives every day.

    Well Banning automobiles is a little bit facetious but how about raising the driving age to 21?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Well Banning automobiles is a little bit facetious but how about raising the driving age to 21?

    WSS

    Or maybe making it illegal to text and drive?...oh wait...it IS illegal!

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well Banning automobiles is a little bit facetious but how about raising the driving age to 21?

    WSS

    Or maybe making it illegal to text and drive?...oh wait...it IS illegal!

    @canton-dawg said:

    Or maybe making it illegal to text and drive?...oh wait...it IS illegal!

    And like anything else whether it's breaking the gun laws drinking and driving possession of illegal drugs etc etc as long as you can get away with it ninety-nine times out of a hundred it will just never stop.

    WSS

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Or maybe making it illegal to text and drive?...oh wait...it IS illegal!

    And like anything else whether it's breaking the gun laws drinking and driving possession of illegal drugs etc etc as long as you can get away with it ninety-nine times out of a hundred it will just never stop.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And like anything else whether it's breaking the gun laws drinking and driving possession of illegal drugs etc etc as long as you can get away with it ninety-nine times out of a hundred it will just never stop.

    WSS

    Could you explain that to Woody?

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Or maybe making it illegal to text and drive?...oh wait...it IS illegal!

    And like anything else whether it's breaking the gun laws drinking and driving possession of illegal drugs etc etc as long as you can get away with it ninety-nine times out of a hundred it will just never stop.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And like anything else whether it's breaking the gun laws drinking and driving possession of illegal drugs etc etc as long as you can get away with it ninety-nine times out of a hundred it will just never stop.

    WSS

    @canton-dawg said:

    Could you explain that to Woody?

    I think you're missing the point.

    The reason why we have laws for things, those things still happen, but you aren't trying to remove those laws.

    The idea that if a law or regulation doesn't stop all mass shootings then it isn't worth it is incredibly flawed. But it is an argument that us made on here repeatedly. 

  • If we ban automobiles, we could save 22 teenage lives every day.

    @canton-dawg said:

    If we ban automobiles, we could save 22 teenage lives every day.

    Again... You don't want to make the comparison to cars. Unless you want to regulate guns as much as cars

  • The problem, of course, is the Constitution. You don't have an inalienable right to transportation; the right to ride horses was apparently alienable. 

  • The problem, of course, is the Constitution. You don't have an inalienable right to transportation; the right to ride horses was apparently alienable. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    The problem, of course, is the Constitution. You don't have an inalienable right to transportation; the right to ride horses was apparently alienable. 

    Sure. But restricting certain types of firearms or requiring the registration of firearms (or something like that) doesn't take away that right.