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  • hx214H hx214 wrote on last edited by
    #23

    Being a blitzing DE in the NFL is t its. 

    I think the average offensive snaps in the nfl is 65 a game. So if you play 80% of the snaps on defense that’s 52 snaps a game. So that’s 832 snaps a year. So be conservative and cut the 832 in half to account for passing plays vs running plays and you are at 416.

    If you record 10 sacks a year your a great player. You get 15-20 and your a god and maxing our money...  so if you hit home 4.8% of the time (that would be 20 sacks a year) your a hall of famer...

    Way better than being a CB! Let one WR smoke you per game and your out on your butt!

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Interesting how high nassib ranks in run stop percentage of edge defenders.  Though it should be expected at 6'7.  

    Can you elaborate? I looked what I thought was a lot and couldn't find details.. perhaps you have an edge membership?

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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    @unsympathetic said:

    Can you elaborate? I looked what I thought was a lot and couldn't find details.. perhaps you have an edge membership?

    I don't believe it was a premium stat.  Saw it combing through there lightly just a little while ago... I'll see if I can find it.

    And no, I don't subscribe to any football websites or the like.  

  • He was the #1 overall Zumba instructor too, veterans included. Beat you to it Tom.😛😁

    GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
    #25

    @texasag1969 said:

    He was the #1 overall Zumba instructor too, veterans included. Beat you to it Tom.😛😁

    He played 3 times as many plays as the other edge defenders. Nice post though,  you got me.

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by jiggins7919
    #26

    Garrett needs some luck this year against the injury bug, both personally and with Ogbah. Right when Ogbah got hurt we got a glimpse of what those two could do on the field together, and Ogbah going down was just devastating. Ogbah appeared to be figuring it out, and Gregg Williams was putting them in places to succeed. If they're healthy, they contend for combined sack leaders in the league. Not only that, they both are extremely solid against the run. Our rush defense suffered when Ogbah went out and teams knew they could run at Nassib. Ogbah was superior at setting the edge, and Myles was underrated as a run stuffer. I can remember several times when teams ran at Myles very early in the game and Myles just blew it up. One time an announcer said, "They decided to test Garrett, and I doubt we see that play again." LOL. 

    Oh, one more thing. A pick that nobody is really talking too much about for us is the pass rusher Chubb from NC State. Why pick HIM if we have Ogbah and Garrett? Because getting to the QB is the name of the game in the NFL. If you watched Garrett last year, then you saw him get a lot of success, not from the outside, but from the INSIDE position. He was a beast inside, and knowing that, we could draft Chubb and have a 3rd down "super rush package" that would be the envy of everyone. What does that do? It would mean we don't have to blitz on 3rd down NEARLY as much, and if you watched our defense, you know that blitzing to create pressure killed us in too many games. Just something to think about. Also, Myles Garrett and Ogbah can't play EVERY snap effectively, and Chubb could potentially provide a breather for them without sacrificing too much ability. Having fresh pass rushers is a luxury not many teams have. 

  • @orion said:

    He's one of the eleven guys that tackle people.  Very rare that you come across a guy that can control a game on defense. 

    did you ever watch Joey Bosa play?

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #27

    @topdawg31 said:

    did you ever watch Joey Bosa play?

    ...and yet in 32 football games, his team is the only one we beat.    -  He's just one of the 11 guys that are supposed to tackle people.

  • Garrett needs some luck this year against the injury bug, both personally and with Ogbah. Right when Ogbah got hurt we got a glimpse of what those two could do on the field together, and Ogbah going down was just devastating. Ogbah appeared to be figuring it out, and Gregg Williams was putting them in places to succeed. If they're healthy, they contend for combined sack leaders in the league. Not only that, they both are extremely solid against the run. Our rush defense suffered when Ogbah went out and teams knew they could run at Nassib. Ogbah was superior at setting the edge, and Myles was underrated as a run stuffer. I can remember several times when teams ran at Myles very early in the game and Myles just blew it up. One time an announcer said, "They decided to test Garrett, and I doubt we see that play again." LOL. 

    Oh, one more thing. A pick that nobody is really talking too much about for us is the pass rusher Chubb from NC State. Why pick HIM if we have Ogbah and Garrett? Because getting to the QB is the name of the game in the NFL. If you watched Garrett last year, then you saw him get a lot of success, not from the outside, but from the INSIDE position. He was a beast inside, and knowing that, we could draft Chubb and have a 3rd down "super rush package" that would be the envy of everyone. What does that do? It would mean we don't have to blitz on 3rd down NEARLY as much, and if you watched our defense, you know that blitzing to create pressure killed us in too many games. Just something to think about. Also, Myles Garrett and Ogbah can't play EVERY snap effectively, and Chubb could potentially provide a breather for them without sacrificing too much ability. Having fresh pass rushers is a luxury not many teams have. 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #28

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Garrett needs some luck this year against the injury bug, both personally and with Ogbah. Right when Ogbah got hurt we got a glimpse of what those two could do on the field together, and Ogbah going down was just devastating. Ogbah appeared to be figuring it out, and Gregg Williams was putting them in places to succeed. If they're healthy, they contend for combined sack leaders in the league. Not only that, they both are extremely solid against the run. Our rush defense suffered when Ogbah went out and teams knew they could run at Nassib. Ogbah was superior at setting the edge, and Myles was underrated as a run stuffer. I can remember several times when teams ran at Myles very early in the game and Myles just blew it up. One time an announcer said, "They decided to test Garrett, and I doubt we see that play again." LOL. 

    Oh, one more thing. A pick that nobody is really talking too much about for us is the pass rusher Chubb from NC State. Why pick HIM if we have Ogbah and Garrett? Because getting to the QB is the name of the game in the NFL. If you watched Garrett last year, then you saw him get a lot of success, not from the outside, but from the INSIDE position. He was a beast inside, and knowing that, we could draft Chubb and have a 3rd down "super rush package" that would be the envy of everyone. What does that do? It would mean we don't have to blitz on 3rd down NEARLY as much, and if you watched our defense, you know that blitzing to create pressure killed us in too many games. Just something to think about. Also, Myles Garrett and Ogbah can't play EVERY snap effectively, and Chubb could potentially provide a breather for them without sacrificing too much ability. Having fresh pass rushers is a luxury not many teams have. 

    That's the Denver formula that got their SB year for them. Add Collins back in the mix along with Danny and we could really have a D to be afraid of. I can't remember any game we had last year where one or more of the guys we already have wasn't out with an injury. Add one more good pass rusher to the mix and get rid of Orchard because he was the biggest weakness on the team. Every time he was in they ran right over him.

  • @topdawg31 said:

    did you ever watch Joey Bosa play?

    ...and yet in 32 football games, his team is the only one we beat.    -  He's just one of the 11 guys that are supposed to tackle people.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #29

    @orion said:

    ...and yet in 32 football games, his team is the only one we beat.    -  He's just one of the 11 guys that are supposed to tackle people.

    That's like saying on offense all 10 other guys are as important or can score like the skill players most importantly the quarterback. 

    That's just the way team sports go. Your starting pitcher is far more important than who is in RF.

    The DE does anchor the defense, ask any coach. Oh and the pathetic 1-31 BROWNS beating one team it's pretty much irreverent that one guy caused that besides the BROWNS were just lucky there they didn't go 0-32. 

  • @orion said:

    ...and yet in 32 football games, his team is the only one we beat.    -  He's just one of the 11 guys that are supposed to tackle people.

    That's like saying on offense all 10 other guys are as important or can score like the skill players most importantly the quarterback. 

    That's just the way team sports go. Your starting pitcher is far more important than who is in RF.

    The DE does anchor the defense, ask any coach. Oh and the pathetic 1-31 BROWNS beating one team it's pretty much irreverent that one guy caused that besides the BROWNS were just lucky there they didn't go 0-32. 

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #30

    @mjp28 said:

    Oh and the pathetic 1-31 BROWNS beating one team it's pretty much irreverent that one guy caused that besides the BROWNS were just lucky there they didn't go 0-32. 

    VERY lucky.  A reliable kicker missed a FG.

    @mjp28 said:

    That's like saying on offense all 10 other guys are as important or can score like the skill players most importantly the quarterback. 

    Nope.  I wasn't talking about offense.  (and I know that the edge rusher is one of the most important pieces on D)

    On offense it's the QB...the group of receivers...the running back(s)...then OLinemen.  And although I list the OL last, they are quite important because if they're not all fairly GOOD then the rest of the offensive skill positions suffer greatly.

    Last year Garrett was rated head and shoulders better than anyone else in the draft.  But the QB is the MOST important position...by a lot...so although we selected the 'head and shoulders' best player in the draft, we didn't win any games.  That's how important NOT having a QB is.  

  • J JimboJones wrote on last edited by JimboJones
    #31

    Who else is hoping for a Myles Garrett / Bradley Chubb duo?

  • Who else is hoping for a Myles Garrett / Bradley Chubb duo?

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
    #32

    @jimbojones said:

    Who else is hoping for a Myles Garrett / Bradley Chubb duo?

    Was talking about Chubb a couple months back.   That would be even more of a reality should the Browns sign Cousins and we trade out of #1.

  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
    #33

    We don't need no stinkin Bradley Chump. We've got the BEAST OGBAH! Guy is a savage. These other teams are lucky Collins was hurt and Garrett and Ogbah too... Last year was an enigma, this year we'll release the hound of war! 

  • We don't need no stinkin Bradley Chump. We've got the BEAST OGBAH! Guy is a savage. These other teams are lucky Collins was hurt and Garrett and Ogbah too... Last year was an enigma, this year we'll release the hound of war! 

    J JimboJones wrote on last edited by
    #34

    @poeticg said:

    We don't need no stinkin Bradley Chump. We've got the BEAST OGBAH! Guy is a savage. These other teams are lucky Collins was hurt and Garrett and Ogbah too... Last year was an enigma, this year we'll release the hound of war! 

    I'm going to genuinely feel bad for you if the Browns don't pick Barkley.

  • @poeticg said:

    We don't need no stinkin Bradley Chump. We've got the BEAST OGBAH! Guy is a savage. These other teams are lucky Collins was hurt and Garrett and Ogbah too... Last year was an enigma, this year we'll release the hound of war! 

    I'm going to genuinely feel bad for you if the Browns don't pick Barkley.

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
    #35

    @jimbojones said:

    I'm going to genuinely feel bad for you if the Browns don't pick Barkley.

    I won't feel bad.   If they don't draft him, I hope that on the same day they release his other boyfriend Hogan.  Someone who spews this much nonsense about a crappy 3rd string QB and a college RB deserves the disappointment.

  • @poeticg said:

    We don't need no stinkin Bradley Chump. We've got the BEAST OGBAH! Guy is a savage. These other teams are lucky Collins was hurt and Garrett and Ogbah too... Last year was an enigma, this year we'll release the hound of war! 

    I'm going to genuinely feel bad for you if the Browns don't pick Barkley.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #36

    @jimbojones said:

    I'm going to genuinely feel bad for you if the Browns don't pick Barkley.

    I won't feel bad.  No, not at all.  I will take it merely as a sign that there are other players available that can do more good for this team.

  • @jimbojones said:

    I'm going to genuinely feel bad for you if the Browns don't pick Barkley.

    I won't feel bad.   If they don't draft him, I hope that on the same day they release his other boyfriend Hogan.  Someone who spews this much nonsense about a crappy 3rd string QB and a college RB deserves the disappointment.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #37

    @mark-o said:

    I won't feel bad.   If they don't draft him, I hope that on the same day they release his other boyfriend Hogan.  Someone who spews this much nonsense about a crappy 3rd string QB and a college RB deserves the disappointment.

    Can this man get an "amen"?

    If this happens, just know that a guy on the opposite side of Stark County from PoG will be laughing his butt off while he's frantically posting poll after poll asking "On a scale of 1-10 million how many tears did your boy PoG shed today?"