Apparently Browns “not enamored” with any of the top QBs
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There is a real problem with Browns trading #1 pick to a QB needy team. It eliminates another QB which won't be there at #4. Not knowing what the Giants will do and with the possibility of Indy trading their pick also to a QB needy team, put the #4 pick in jeopardy. Way too risky for my blood.
However, keeping #1 and using it on a non-qb would probably be safe enough as long as you have two qbs you would settle for, such as if the Browns would be happy with say Darnold or Allen.
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It is silly season. No one knows what they like or dislike at this point.
True...it is silly season....but it may also be a true report.
I mean....after all, many of us fan boys have said that WE are not fully enamored of any of these QBs that are coming out. You know what I have said: that this could just be another David Carr/Joey Harrington or Ponder/Gabbert/Locker like draft year as easily as it could be an Eli/Rivers/BR type class.
All I am saying is....if we are not overwhelmed...why should Dorsey et all be overwhelmed?
Fortunately, they are the pros whose job it is to figure it out.....and hopefully the do find the one Cinderella in amongst all the wicked stepsisters.
True...it is silly season....but it may also be a true report.
I mean....after all, many of us fan boys have said that WE are not fully enamored of any of these QBs that are coming out. You know what I have said: that this could just be another David Carr/Joey Harrington or Ponder/Gabbert/Locker like draft year as easily as it could be an Eli/Rivers/BR type class.
All I am saying is....if we are not overwhelmed...why should Dorsey et all be overwhelmed?
Fortunately, they are the pros whose job it is to figure it out.....and hopefully the do find the one Cinderella in amongst all the wicked stepsisters.
I agree. Plus, it's early in the process.
Not being enamored with any ONE of them doesn't mean we don't like some of them.
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A bit early for that Nero, but it doesn't hurt to start lighting up the smoke early. Where the big domino (Cousins) falls when free agency starts will have a huge effect on the top ten picks, assuming he lands on a team drafting there, and I'm betting he will.
That would have to be the Browns or Jets..or Broncos. This makes an assumption that the Giants would not be in the market for Cousins. Should we make that assumption? Or should the Gints be considered as part of the Cousins cadre?
That would have to be the Browns or Jets..or Broncos. This makes an assumption that the Giants would not be in the market for Cousins. Should we make that assumption? Or should the Gints be considered as part of the Cousins cadre?
It looks like it’s shaping up to be the Vikings, Jets, and Broncos with the Vikings being the most likely suitor.
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That would have to be the Browns or Jets..or Broncos. This makes an assumption that the Giants would not be in the market for Cousins. Should we make that assumption? Or should the Gints be considered as part of the Cousins cadre?
It looks like it’s shaping up to be the Vikings, Jets, and Broncos with the Vikings being the most likely suitor.
It looks like it’s shaping up to be the Vikings, Jets, and Broncos with the Vikings being the most likely suitor.
I have heard that the Jets may want to go all in on Cousins.
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I think after the combine, pro days and meetings, they'll know who they want.
Or they could go down as the team that's needed a franchise QB for 20+ years, and failed to get one with TWO #1 draft picks in a row
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The more I think of it, the more I get pissed off by - relatively speaking - how little the 49ers gave up for Garappolo.
He should be a Cleveland Brown right now, the Browns should have the most important position already filled for years to come with a (somewhat) experienced young guy, and we could be focusing on the rest of the team.
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Why would they disrespect an entire group of potential QBs before the draft?
Why would they disrespect an entire group of potential QBs before the draft?
Its all a smoke screen.
Even though the Browns pick # 1, keeping the other team making assumptions screws up their draft boards when they guess wrong. Especially when youre picking again at # 4.
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There is a real problem with Browns trading #1 pick to a QB needy team. It eliminates another QB which won't be there at #4. Not knowing what the Giants will do and with the possibility of Indy trading their pick also to a QB needy team, put the #4 pick in jeopardy. Way too risky for my blood.
However, keeping #1 and using it on a non-qb would probably be safe enough as long as you have two qbs you would settle for, such as if the Browns would be happy with say Darnold or Allen.
There is a real problem with Browns trading #1 pick to a QB needy team. It eliminates another QB which won't be there at #4. Not knowing what the Giants will do and with the possibility of Indy trading their pick also to a QB needy team, put the #4 pick in jeopardy. Way too risky for my blood.
However, keeping #1 and using it on a non-qb would probably be safe enough as long as you have two qbs you would settle for, such as if the Browns would be happy with say Darnold or Allen.
You draft Barkley at # 1
Then the QB of the future at # 4
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There is a real problem with Browns trading #1 pick to a QB needy team. It eliminates another QB which won't be there at #4. Not knowing what the Giants will do and with the possibility of Indy trading their pick also to a QB needy team, put the #4 pick in jeopardy. Way too risky for my blood.
However, keeping #1 and using it on a non-qb would probably be safe enough as long as you have two qbs you would settle for, such as if the Browns would be happy with say Darnold or Allen.
You draft Barkley at # 1
Then the QB of the future at # 4
You draft Barkley at # 1
Then the QB of the future at # 4
I see what you're saying, but if you're the BROWNS of ALL the teams in the league, you simply can't take a chance on not getting the QB you have rated the highest. There's simply no excuse, when you have the #1 and the #4 picks, NOT to draft the guy you have ranked ahead of everybody. We're the Browns, the team above all others that have been absolutely TORTURED by the QB position, and now we have the #1 pick, a chance to take whoever we want, and we need to grab the guy we like the best.
Think about what happens if we take Saquon first overall. That leaves two picks before our #4. Two chances for other teams to either draft the QB we like the best or make an insane trade with a team who wants to move up to draft one. Does Saquon look like a crazy-awesome prospect? Would he immediately help us score points? Heck yes, but NOTHING matters until you get the QB position right, and NO team knows that more than the Browns! We can pick whichever QB we want, and nothing can change that. We have the first pick and we literally get to select who we WANT. We don't get cute, we don't try to maximize our draft capital and trade down, we don't draft a RB #1, and if Saquon is available at #4, then we look at drafting him, but if it's me, I take Minkah Fitzpatrick all day. Look at the RB's who were drafted after the first round last year and still did great. Kareem Hunt? Kamara? Dorsey will find our stud RB in the 2nd or 3rd round, he's done it before.
Baker Mayfield should be drafted #1, and the ONLY other guy I'd be ok with is Rosen. Oh, and if we draft Josh Allen, I will comb the planet to find an experimental "Total Recall" procedure and have the doctor implant memories of me being a Patriots fan because Allen looks like a complete JOKE to me. He's Paxton Lynch 2.0, and I have NO IDEA why he's getting a pass on his horrible accuracy and terrible numbers.
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There is a real problem with Browns trading #1 pick to a QB needy team. It eliminates another QB which won't be there at #4. Not knowing what the Giants will do and with the possibility of Indy trading their pick also to a QB needy team, put the #4 pick in jeopardy. Way too risky for my blood.
However, keeping #1 and using it on a non-qb would probably be safe enough as long as you have two qbs you would settle for, such as if the Browns would be happy with say Darnold or Allen.
You draft Barkley at # 1
Then the QB of the future at # 4
You draft Barkley at # 1
Then the QB of the future at # 4
No ding dong.. you get the QB you want first.. You don't screw around and let your guy get away.. that's what we did the last couple of season.. Don't be stupid
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I like Mayfield, but it's silly to draft him so high. Like I said before - Weeden had great numbers. I want the qb that can become one of the great ones. He's a terrific college qb - but so was Weeden. and jm. and so many others.
Mayfield is good, but he's short, not all that mature, is an attention hog on and off the field, floats a lot of passes. That's great when you have the best offensive in college football. But what happens when he faces NFL pass rushing every week, with narrow windows, complex coverages, and can't zing a pass on a midrange throw without it being intercepted? I can see Washington getting him about what, the 14th or 15th pick?
Who knows? nobody, really. We'll see how it all plays out in the draft.
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You draft Barkley at # 1
Then the QB of the future at # 4
No ding dong.. you get the QB you want first.. You don't screw around and let your guy get away.. that's what we did the last couple of season.. Don't be stupid
No ding dong.. you get the QB you want first.. You don't screw around and let your guy get away.. that's what we did the last couple of season.. Don't be stupid
Barkley is the best RB in the draft Fruitcake. Crowell is gone. Smarten up.
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You draft Barkley at # 1
Then the QB of the future at # 4
I see what you're saying, but if you're the BROWNS of ALL the teams in the league, you simply can't take a chance on not getting the QB you have rated the highest. There's simply no excuse, when you have the #1 and the #4 picks, NOT to draft the guy you have ranked ahead of everybody. We're the Browns, the team above all others that have been absolutely TORTURED by the QB position, and now we have the #1 pick, a chance to take whoever we want, and we need to grab the guy we like the best.
Think about what happens if we take Saquon first overall. That leaves two picks before our #4. Two chances for other teams to either draft the QB we like the best or make an insane trade with a team who wants to move up to draft one. Does Saquon look like a crazy-awesome prospect? Would he immediately help us score points? Heck yes, but NOTHING matters until you get the QB position right, and NO team knows that more than the Browns! We can pick whichever QB we want, and nothing can change that. We have the first pick and we literally get to select who we WANT. We don't get cute, we don't try to maximize our draft capital and trade down, we don't draft a RB #1, and if Saquon is available at #4, then we look at drafting him, but if it's me, I take Minkah Fitzpatrick all day. Look at the RB's who were drafted after the first round last year and still did great. Kareem Hunt? Kamara? Dorsey will find our stud RB in the 2nd or 3rd round, he's done it before.
Baker Mayfield should be drafted #1, and the ONLY other guy I'd be ok with is Rosen. Oh, and if we draft Josh Allen, I will comb the planet to find an experimental "Total Recall" procedure and have the doctor implant memories of me being a Patriots fan because Allen looks like a complete JOKE to me. He's Paxton Lynch 2.0, and I have NO IDEA why he's getting a pass on his horrible accuracy and terrible numbers.
I see what you're saying, but if you're the BROWNS of ALL the teams in the league, you simply can't take a chance on not getting the QB you have rated the highest. There's simply no excuse, when you have the #1 and the #4 picks, NOT to draft the guy you have ranked ahead of everybody. We're the Browns, the team above all others that have been absolutely TORTURED by the QB position, and now we have the #1 pick, a chance to take whoever we want, and we need to grab the guy we like the best.
Think about what happens if we take Saquon first overall. That leaves two picks before our #4. Two chances for other teams to either draft the QB we like the best or make an insane trade with a team who wants to move up to draft one. Does Saquon look like a crazy-awesome prospect? Would he immediately help us score points? Heck yes, but NOTHING matters until you get the QB position right, and NO team knows that more than the Browns! We can pick whichever QB we want, and nothing can change that. We have the first pick and we literally get to select who we WANT. We don't get cute, we don't try to maximize our draft capital and trade down, we don't draft a RB #1, and if Saquon is available at #4, then we look at drafting him, but if it's me, I take Minkah Fitzpatrick all day. Look at the RB's who were drafted after the first round last year and still did great. Kareem Hunt? Kamara? Dorsey will find our stud RB in the 2nd or 3rd round, he's done it before.
Baker Mayfield should be drafted #1, and the ONLY other guy I'd be ok with is Rosen. Oh, and if we draft Josh Allen, I will comb the planet to find an experimental "Total Recall" procedure and have the doctor implant memories of me being a Patriots fan because Allen looks like a complete JOKE to me. He's Paxton Lynch 2.0, and I have NO IDEA why he's getting a pass on his horrible accuracy and terrible numbers.
The Colts and Giants both need a RB.
So do the Browns. What better weapon to have than a stud RB that would even help Kizer. Last season Crowell did not look that great. Duke and Barkley.
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Why would they disrespect an entire group of potential QBs before the draft?
Its all a smoke screen.
Even though the Browns pick # 1, keeping the other team making assumptions screws up their draft boards when they guess wrong. Especially when youre picking again at # 4.
Its all a smoke screen.
Even though the Browns pick # 1, keeping the other team making assumptions screws up their draft boards when they guess wrong. Especially when youre picking again at # 4.
Fair point.
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Who knows? nobody, really. We'll see how it all plays out in the draft.
And yet we spend thread after thread, page after page, post after post talking about it. Where if not one other word were said on this board about what the Browns would do...it would not change a thing.
Fair to say?
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Who knows? nobody, really. We'll see how it all plays out in the draft.
And yet we spend thread after thread, page after page, post after post talking about it. Where if not one other word were said on this board about what the Browns would do...it would not change a thing.
Fair to say?
Who knows? nobody, really. We'll see how it all plays out in the draft.
And yet we spend thread after thread, page after page, post after post talking about it. Where if not one other word were said on this board about what the Browns would do...it would not change a thing.
Fair to say?
Yep.
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Its all a smoke screen.
Even though the Browns pick # 1, keeping the other team making assumptions screws up their draft boards when they guess wrong. Especially when youre picking again at # 4.
Fair point.
Fair point.
Dorsey is playing this perfect.
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I see what you're saying, but if you're the BROWNS of ALL the teams in the league, you simply can't take a chance on not getting the QB you have rated the highest. There's simply no excuse, when you have the #1 and the #4 picks, NOT to draft the guy you have ranked ahead of everybody. We're the Browns, the team above all others that have been absolutely TORTURED by the QB position, and now we have the #1 pick, a chance to take whoever we want, and we need to grab the guy we like the best.
Think about what happens if we take Saquon first overall. That leaves two picks before our #4. Two chances for other teams to either draft the QB we like the best or make an insane trade with a team who wants to move up to draft one. Does Saquon look like a crazy-awesome prospect? Would he immediately help us score points? Heck yes, but NOTHING matters until you get the QB position right, and NO team knows that more than the Browns! We can pick whichever QB we want, and nothing can change that. We have the first pick and we literally get to select who we WANT. We don't get cute, we don't try to maximize our draft capital and trade down, we don't draft a RB #1, and if Saquon is available at #4, then we look at drafting him, but if it's me, I take Minkah Fitzpatrick all day. Look at the RB's who were drafted after the first round last year and still did great. Kareem Hunt? Kamara? Dorsey will find our stud RB in the 2nd or 3rd round, he's done it before.
Baker Mayfield should be drafted #1, and the ONLY other guy I'd be ok with is Rosen. Oh, and if we draft Josh Allen, I will comb the planet to find an experimental "Total Recall" procedure and have the doctor implant memories of me being a Patriots fan because Allen looks like a complete JOKE to me. He's Paxton Lynch 2.0, and I have NO IDEA why he's getting a pass on his horrible accuracy and terrible numbers.
The Colts and Giants both need a RB.
So do the Browns. What better weapon to have than a stud RB that would even help Kizer. Last season Crowell did not look that great. Duke and Barkley.
The Colts and Giants both need a RB.
So do the Browns. What better weapon to have than a stud RB that would even help Kizer. Last season Crowell did not look that great. Duke and Barkley.
It's true. A nice running back tandem would certainly help our quarterbacks. I guess my argument is that it's such a deep running back draft, and I'd rather go Minkah Fitzpatrick at 4, and then draft a RB in the 2nd round. But honestly, my only real care in the world regarding the draft is that we get our QB with the first pick. That's all I really care about. If we go QB #1 and then take Saquon at 4, I'm cool with it. Just get the qb you like the best at 1, and everything else is gravy.
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