Unit Analysis
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QBs: Kizer, Hogan, Kessler: Need: 10
RBs: Duke Johnson, Matthew Dayes, Marquez Williams (Crowell...FA) Need: 8
Fullback: Dan Vitale. Need: 2
Center: JC Tretter, Austin Reiter. Need: 2
LG: Bitonio, Chris Baker Need: 2
RG: Zeitler, Geoff Gray, Joe Cheek Need: 2
RT: Sean Coleman, Zach Banner 3
LT: Joe Thomas (assuming he does not retire) Drango, Rod Johnson Need: 6
Defense
DE1: Garrett, Orchard, Colin Bevins Need: 6
DE2: Ogbah, Nassib, Lavar Edwards (who is a FA and not expected back) Need: 6
DT1: Trevon Coley, Ogunjobi Need: 4
DT2: Shelton, Brantley, Meder Need: 4
SLB: Jamie Collins, James Burgess, Jeremy Cash Need: 6
MLB: Schobert, Tank Carder, BJ Bello, Max Bullough Need: 6
WLB: Kirksey, Dom. Alexander, Jack Keys Need: 6
LCB: McCourty, Michael Jordan, CJ Smith Need: 9
RCB: Jamar Taylor, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Howard Wilson Need: 9
S1: Peppers, Kindred, Derron Smith Need: 2
S2: Kai Nacua, Justin Currie Need: 9
Special Teams:
P Colquitt 1
K Zane Gonzales 2
LS Hughlett 1
PR Peppers, Duke Johnson 3
KR Dayes, Peppers 2
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Since Free Agency is days away, and the draft is upcoming....Lets look at the Browns Depth Chart as it stands right now, and then let's do a "needs" analysis. Lets do it this way: Do a 1-10 scale, one being low need, 10 being high need....for what the Browns should do in either FA or the draft:
So...1-10 say what our need is at these spots (and feel free to suggest solutions to positions of greatest need)
My own view:
Offense
QBs: Kizer, Hogan, Kessler: Need: 10....we need a veteran and a QBOTF
RBs: Duke Johnson, Matthew Dayes, Marquez Williams (Crowell...FA) Need: 7-8....assuming the Crow goes
Fullback: Dan Vitale. Need: 2....not sure that this spot is used a lot
Center: JC Tretter, Austin Reiter. Need: 2-3...both of these guys seem solid enough
LG: Bitonio, Chris Baker Need: 4-5....for a backup interior OL. A John Greco type perhaps in FA?
RG: Zeitler, Geoff Gray, Joe Cheek Need: see above...same deal
RT: Sean Coleman, Zach Banner Need: 4 if Drango or Johnson can back up here that could be OK.
LT: Joe Thomas (assuming he does not retire) Drango, Rod Johnson Need: 2 if JT stays...if not: 8
TE: Njoku, Devalve, Telfer, Gavin Escobar. Need: Probably a 4.
WR1: Gordon, Louis, Kasen Williams Need: WR still on shaky ground. Give it a 7.
WR2: Coleman, Higgins, Sammy Coates Need: see above.
Defense
DE1: Garrett, Orchard, Colin Bevins Need: 3, Top two should work...but can always use more pass rush
DE2: Ogbah, Nassib, Lavar Edwards (who is a FA and not expected back) Need: Same as above
DT1: Trevon Coley, Ogunjobi Need: 3. Our interior DL seems to be in good hands with some depth
DT2: Shelton, Brantley, Meder Need: 3 Same as above
SLB: Jamie Collins, James Burgess, Jeremy Cash Need: 6-7 I think we need another solid OLB
MLB: Schobert, Tank Carder, BJ Bello, Max Bullough Need: 2-3....given that Collins and Kirksey are natural MLBs and can back up
WLB: Kirksey, Dom. Alexander, Jack Keys Need: 6-7, as noted above,, I think Kirksey is out of position
LCB: McCourty, Michael Jordan, CJ Smith Need: 5. Hopefully McCourty can man one CB spot for a year...but need more/better
RCB: Jamar Taylor, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Howard Wilson Need: 8-9 Definite upgrade needed here. Wilson total unknown wild card.
S1: Peppers, Kindred, Derron Smith Need: 3....if Peppers and Kindred can share a positon...and be used right...and if their talent comes forth....then this one Safety spot should be in good hands. If, if, if.
S2: Kai Nacua, Justin Currie Need: 9.5 next to QB....the biggest priorty imo.
Special Teams:
P Colquitt 1....nothing to see here....this is solid
K Zane Gonzales 5....Zane still on probation imo
LS Hughlett 1 see no issue here at all
PR Peppers, Duke Johnson 8....Peppers needs to show something....or we need a replacement.
KR Dayes, Peppers 3-4 Since the NFL has tried to legislate the kick return out of the game the KOR has almost become superfluous.
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Zombo said:
I think you forgot WRs and TE ... 8,8, 4
Z
I had them...but forgot to type them. Thanks for the catch....will edit.
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Basic deal: anything you rank like 9-10 should be a spot addressed with our first round picks.
Positions ranked 8-7 with 2d round picks. 5-6 third rounders....and the rest.
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Zombo said:
I think you forgot WRs and TE ... 8,8, 4
Z
I had them...but forgot to type them. Thanks for the catch....will edit.
I had them...but forgot to type them. Thanks for the catch....will edit.
I just hope that the BROWNS FO does as good of a job on their list. And thank goodness they have a ton of picks.
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Which positions do you think need to be addressed in FA instead of the draft ......I think a vet at tackle is better than taking one in the draft at the moment...... if we can address the D in FA, Corner, Safety OLB then use the draft for some flyers on offense
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Which positions do you think need to be addressed in FA instead of the draft ......I think a vet at tackle is better than taking one in the draft at the moment...... if we can address the D in FA, Corner, Safety OLB then use the draft for some flyers on offense
Which positions do you think need to be addressed in FA instead of the draft ......I think a vet at tackle is better than taking one in the draft at the moment...... if we can address the D in FA, Corner, Safety OLB then use the draft for some flyers on offense
I think you answered your own question. Fair to say?
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Basic deal: anything you rank like 9-10 should be a spot addressed with our first round picks.
Positions ranked 8-7 with 2d round picks. 5-6 third rounders....and the rest.
Basic deal: anything you rank like 9-10 should be a spot addressed with our first round picks.
Positions ranked 8-7 with 2d round picks. 5-6 third rounders....and the rest.
I pretty much agree with your assessments, so I'm not going to try and reinvent the wheel.
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Since Free Agency is days away, and the draft is upcoming....Lets look at the Browns Depth Chart as it stands right now, and then let's do a "needs" analysis. Lets do it this way: Do a 1-10 scale, one being low need, 10 being high need....for what the Browns should do in either FA or the draft:
So...1-10 say what our need is at these spots (and feel free to suggest solutions to positions of greatest need)
Offense
QBs: Kizer, Hogan, Kessler: Need:
RBs: Duke Johnson, Matthew Dayes, Marquez Williams (Crowell...FA) Need:
Fullback: Dan Vitale. Need:
Center: JC Tretter, Austin Reiter. Need:
LG: Bitonio, Chris Baker Need:
RG: Zeitler, Geoff Gray, Joe Cheek Need:
RT: Sean Coleman, Zach Banner
LT: Joe Thomas (assuming he does not retire) Drango, Rod Johnson Need:
TE: Njoku, Devalve, Telfer, Gavin Escobar Need:
WR1: Gordon, Ricardo Louis, Kasen Williams Need:
WR2: Coleman, Higgins, Coates
Defense
DE1: Garrett, Orchard, Colin Bevins Need:
DE2: Ogbah, Nassib, Lavar Edwards (who is a FA and not expected back) Need:
DT1: Trevon Coley, Ogunjobi Need:
DT2: Shelton, Brantley, Meder Need:
SLB: Jamie Collins, James Burgess, Jeremy Cash Need:
MLB: Schobert, Tank Carder, BJ Bello, Max Bullough Need:
WLB: Kirksey, Dom. Alexander, Jack Keys Need:
LCB: McCourty, Michael Jordan, CJ Smith Need:
RCB: Jamar Taylor, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Howard Wilson Need:
S1: Peppers, Kindred, Derron Smith Need:
S2: Kai Nacua, Justin Currie Need:
Special Teams:
P Colquitt
K Zane Gonzales
LS Hughlett
PR Peppers, Duke Johnson
KR Dayes, Peppers
Offense
QBs: Kizer, Hogan, Kessler: Need: 10
RBs: Duke Johnson, Matthew Dayes, Marquez Williams (Crowell...FA) Need: 9
Fullback: Dan Vitale. Need: 2
Center: JC Tretter, Austin Reiter. Need: 3
LG: Bitonio, Chris Baker Need: 2
RG: Zeitler, Geoff Gray, Joe Cheek Need: 2
RT: Sean Coleman, Zach Banner 5
LT: Joe Thomas (assuming he does not retire) Drango, Rod Johnson Need: 10
TE: Njoku, Devalve, Telfer, Gavin Escobar Need: 2
WR1: Gordon, Ricardo Louis, Kasen Williams Need: 8
WR2: Coleman, Higgins, Coates Need: 8
Defense
DE1: Garrett, Orchard, Colin Bevins Need:
DE2: Ogbah, Nassib, Lavar Edwards (who is a FA and not expected back) Need: 5
DT1: Trevon Coley, Ogunjobi Need: 3
DT2: Shelton, Brantley, Meder Need: 6
SLB: Jamie Collins, James Burgess, Jeremy Cash Need: 3
MLB: Schobert, Tank Carder, BJ Bello, Max Bullough Need: 3
WLB: Kirksey, Dom. Alexander, Jack Keys Need: 3
LCB: McCourty, Michael Jordan, CJ Smith Need: 6
RCB: Jamar Taylor, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Howard Wilson Need: 7
S1: Peppers, Kindred, Derron Smith Need: 8
S2: Kai Nacua, Justin Currie Need: 5
Special Teams:
P Colquitt
K Zane Gonzales
LS Hughlett
PR Peppers, Duke Johnson
KR Dayes, Peppers
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Since Free Agency is days away, and the draft is upcoming....Lets look at the Browns Depth Chart as it stands right now, and then let's do a "needs" analysis. Lets do it this way: Do a 1-10 scale, one being low need, 10 being high need....for what the Browns should do in either FA or the draft:
So...1-10 say what our need is at these spots (and feel free to suggest solutions to positions of greatest need)
Offense
QBs: Kizer, Hogan, Kessler: Need:
RBs: Duke Johnson, Matthew Dayes, Marquez Williams (Crowell...FA) Need:
Fullback: Dan Vitale. Need:
Center: JC Tretter, Austin Reiter. Need:
LG: Bitonio, Chris Baker Need:
RG: Zeitler, Geoff Gray, Joe Cheek Need:
RT: Sean Coleman, Zach Banner
LT: Joe Thomas (assuming he does not retire) Drango, Rod Johnson Need:
TE: Njoku, Devalve, Telfer, Gavin Escobar Need:
WR1: Gordon, Ricardo Louis, Kasen Williams Need:
WR2: Coleman, Higgins, Coates
Defense
DE1: Garrett, Orchard, Colin Bevins Need:
DE2: Ogbah, Nassib, Lavar Edwards (who is a FA and not expected back) Need:
DT1: Trevon Coley, Ogunjobi Need:
DT2: Shelton, Brantley, Meder Need:
SLB: Jamie Collins, James Burgess, Jeremy Cash Need:
MLB: Schobert, Tank Carder, BJ Bello, Max Bullough Need:
WLB: Kirksey, Dom. Alexander, Jack Keys Need:
LCB: McCourty, Michael Jordan, CJ Smith Need:
RCB: Jamar Taylor, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Howard Wilson Need:
S1: Peppers, Kindred, Derron Smith Need:
S2: Kai Nacua, Justin Currie Need:
Special Teams:
P Colquitt
K Zane Gonzales
LS Hughlett
PR Peppers, Duke Johnson
KR Dayes, Peppers
Since Free Agency is days away, and the draft is upcoming....Lets look at the Browns Depth Chart as it stands right now, and then let's do a "needs" analysis. Lets do it this way: Do a 1-10 scale, one being low need, 10 being high need....for what the Browns should do in either FA or the draft:
So...1-10 say what our need is at these spots (and feel free to suggest solutions to positions of greatest need)
Offense
QBs: Kizer, Hogan, Kessler: Need: 8 (Many QBs in FA and the draft, perhaps someone already on the roster steps up in our new scheme, we should let Haley pick the QB to run his offense)
RBs: Duke Johnson, Matthew Dayes, Marquez Williams (Crowell...FA) Need: 8 ( Saquon Barkley is the best offensive player in the draft. Duke and Dayes are support role players and not feature backs in the traditional sense IMO)
Fullback: Dan Vitale. Need: 4 (There are a couple good FBs in the draft this year that both bring a little something different to the table, mid to late rounds)
Center: JC Tretter, Austin Reiter. Need: 4 (not a tremendous need but Tretter could be replaced, similar situation as RT)
LG: Bitonio, Chris Baker Need: 1 (Bito is good for a while here, unless you're going BPA and adding depth, there are more pressing concerns)
RG: Zeitler, Geoff Gray, Joe Cheek Need: 1 (Same as LG)
RT: Sean Coleman, Zach Banner Need: 4 (Not saying Coleman isn't the answer but RT has been a swinging gate for some years, hope Coleman solidifies the position though.)
LT: Joe Thomas (assuming he does not retire) Drango, Rod Johnson Need: 6 (Even healthy, Joe is on borrowed time, time to start preparing for father time)
TE: Njoku, Devalve, Telfer, Gavin Escobar Need: 1 (Young and developing, this group is pretty good)
WR1: Gordon, Ricardo Louis, Kasen Williams Need: 3 (Gordon is an All-Pro but behind him there's a oceanic drop off- The only reason this has a need rating at all is because we lose everything if we lose Gordon again. Equiminious St. Brown is a player that could develop into a top talent in time)
WR2: Coleman, Higgins, Coates Need: 5 (All these guys are young like the rest of WR1's group. Great young WR group with lots of potential, you could actually be okay with these guys. There's 6 young and developing receivers adding a big playmaker here would round out a smooth 7)
Defense
DE1: Garrett, Orchard, Colin Bevins Need: 1 (We've got an early second rounder backing up a #1 Overall, if this isn't good for a 1, I don't know what is)
DE2: Ogbah, Nassib, Lavar Edwards (who is a FA and not expected back) Need: 1 (I like both of these players a lot, early picks that are still filling out, patience)
DT1: Trevon Coley, Ogunjobi Need: 3 (Ogunjobi is going to make a huge leap this year, I've got a feeling. Coley did well)
DT2: Shelton, Brantley, Meder Need: 2 (Shelton still hasn't peaked, Brantley was a steal in last years draft and has untapped potential, Meder's always solid.)
SLB: Jamie Collins, James Burgess, Jeremy Cash Need: 1 (Jamie was the Browns' most feared player on defense before he was injured, it's a shame we never got to see Collins, Ogbah, Shelton, Ogunjobi and Garrett play much together, if at all because of injuries throughout the season. I expect this front seven to be dominant as is if healthy, depth is a concern but only marginally as we have some decent backups. Okay in a pinch but suspect with injuries at multiple spots at the same time, but the same could be said of any team)
MLB: Schobert, Tank Carder, BJ Bello, Max Bullough Need: 3 (This one is hard, Tank was the starter and injured before the season and Show earned a ProBowl. Tough to call a Need.)
WLB: Kirksey, Dom. Alexander, Jack Keys Need: 2 (Leader of the defense and a homegrown talent, can't much put a need on his head either.)
LCB: McCourty, Michael Jordan, CJ Smith Need: 6 (Starter's getting older, need a young guy to groom for the future, but for now McCourty balled out last year.)
RCB: Jamar Taylor, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Howard Wilson Need: 4 (I like these guys a lot, mostly the latter two but Taylor is a decent player)
S1: Peppers, Kindred, Derron Smith Need: 2 (Peppers and Kindred played different positions last year correct? With them listed together now, there is little need here.)
S2: Kai Nacua, Justin Currie Need: 8 ... (Why has this position been so hard to fill for so long? Who was the last great player that we had at FS?)
Special Teams:
P Colquitt
K Zane Gonzales
LS Hughlett
PR Peppers, Duke Johnson -
KR Dayes, Peppers
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Since Free Agency is days away, and the draft is upcoming....Lets look at the Browns Depth Chart as it stands right now, and then let's do a "needs" analysis. Lets do it this way: Do a 1-10 scale, one being low need, 10 being high need....for what the Browns should do in either FA or the draft:
So...1-10 say what our need is at these spots (and feel free to suggest solutions to positions of greatest need)
Offense
QBs: Kizer, Hogan, Kessler: Need:
RBs: Duke Johnson, Matthew Dayes, Marquez Williams (Crowell...FA) Need:
Fullback: Dan Vitale. Need:
Center: JC Tretter, Austin Reiter. Need:
LG: Bitonio, Chris Baker Need:
RG: Zeitler, Geoff Gray, Joe Cheek Need:
RT: Sean Coleman, Zach Banner
LT: Joe Thomas (assuming he does not retire) Drango, Rod Johnson Need:
TE: Njoku, Devalve, Telfer, Gavin Escobar Need:
WR1: Gordon, Ricardo Louis, Kasen Williams Need:
WR2: Coleman, Higgins, Coates
Defense
DE1: Garrett, Orchard, Colin Bevins Need:
DE2: Ogbah, Nassib, Lavar Edwards (who is a FA and not expected back) Need:
DT1: Trevon Coley, Ogunjobi Need:
DT2: Shelton, Brantley, Meder Need:
SLB: Jamie Collins, James Burgess, Jeremy Cash Need:
MLB: Schobert, Tank Carder, BJ Bello, Max Bullough Need:
WLB: Kirksey, Dom. Alexander, Jack Keys Need:
LCB: McCourty, Michael Jordan, CJ Smith Need:
RCB: Jamar Taylor, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Howard Wilson Need:
S1: Peppers, Kindred, Derron Smith Need:
S2: Kai Nacua, Justin Currie Need:
Special Teams:
P Colquitt
K Zane Gonzales
LS Hughlett
PR Peppers, Duke Johnson
KR Dayes, Peppers
Since Free Agency is days away, and the draft is upcoming....Lets look at the Browns Depth Chart as it stands right now, and then let's do a "needs" analysis. Lets do it this way: Do a 1-10 scale, one being low need, 10 being high need....for what the Browns should do in either FA or the draft:
So...1-10 say what our need is at these spots (and feel free to suggest solutions to positions of greatest need)
Offense
QBs: Kizer, Hogan, Kessler: Need: 10
RBs: Duke Johnson, Matthew Dayes, Marquez Williams (Crowell...FA) Need: 8..Crow-gone, Duke fumbles, Williams?
Fullback: Dan Vitale. Need: 2
Center: JC Tretter, Austin Reiter. Need: 4
LG: Bitonio, Chris Baker Need: 1-7 pending Bitonio's health
RG: Zeitler, Geoff Gray, Joe Cheek Need: 2
RT: Sean Coleman, Zach Banner 2
LT: Joe Thomas (assuming he does not retire) Drango, Rod Johnson Need: 8 (attack future NOW)
TE: Njoku, Devalve, Telfer, Gavin Escobar Need: 1-6 depending on improvement as blockers from DN & SD
WR1: Gordon, Ricardo Louis, Kasen Williams Need: 9 (NO WAY do I have faith in JG)
WR2: Coleman, Higgins, Coates Need: 10 (we're at "ground zero" here. Higgins maybe ok)
Defense
DE1: Garrett, Orchard, Colin Bevins Need: 2
DE2: Ogbah, Nassib, Lavar Edwards (who is a FA and not expected back) Need: 4
DT1: Trevon Coley, Ogunjobi Need: 2
DT2: Shelton, Brantley, Meder Need: 2
SLB: Jamie Collins, James Burgess, Jeremy Cash Need: 3
MLB: Schobert, Tank Carder, BJ Bello, Max Bullough Need: 6 (LB who can cover in the passing game)
WLB: Kirksey, Dom. Alexander, Jack Keys Need: 2
LCB: McCourty, Michael Jordan, CJ Smith Need: 9
RCB: Jamar Taylor, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Howard Wilson Need: 9
S1: Peppers, Kindred, Derron Smith Need: 4 (if SS, we're ok)
S2: Kai Nacua, Justin Currie Need: 10 (must get a FS...where's Ed Reed when you need him?)
Special Teams:
P Colquitt Need: 5 (due to age)
K Zane Gonzales Need: 3 (competition)
LS Hughlett Need: 2
PR Peppers, Duke Johnson Need: 2 (Let's see the Amos effect)
KR Dayes, Peppers Need: 2
Aw, what the hell do I know?
Mike
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S2: Kai Nacua, Justin Currie Need: 8 ... (Why has this position been so hard to fill for so long? Who was the last great player that we had at FS?)
Not sure about "great" but both Tashaun Gipson and TJ Ward were Pro Bowlers if I recall.
Even with the Dawgs....it was the Cornerbacks Dixon and Minniefield who drove that bus. Who was the FS with that bunch? Felix Wright?
You may have to go back to Thom Darden....FS who is the all time Browns leader in Ints.
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LG: Bitonio, Chris Baker Need: 1-7 pending Bitonio's health
Good point. Bito top notch when healthy...but as I noted....I am not sure we have a quality backup at either LG or RG....do we?
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