Saquon at the Combine!!!!
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Not being a lifter....I assume that those are far more indicative of what kind of lower body strength you have?
If so....good point.
"close grip" bench would be something I would substitute if we're looking at maintaining the appeal of benching. That would at least target muscle groups that translate a bit more to the field itself.
But yeah, any trainer or coach worth their salt will tell you a better athlete starts with power cleans and deads.
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Not being a lifter....I assume that those are far more indicative of what kind of lower body strength you have?
If so....good point.
There's a reason why they don't do those at the Combine. Risk of injury. Same reason they don't let prospects show how much they can bench, which for most of them is way more than 225.
"close grip" bench would be something I would substitute if we're looking at maintaining the appeal of benching. That would at least target muscle groups that translate a bit more to the field itself.
But yeah, any trainer or coach worth their salt will tell you a better athlete starts with power cleans and deads.
See above. I tried a 300 pound dead lift when I was in my 20s and almost threw my back out.
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Not being a lifter....I assume that those are far more indicative of what kind of lower body strength you have?
If so....good point.
There's a reason why they don't do those at the Combine. Risk of injury. Same reason they don't let prospects show how much they can bench, which for most of them is way more than 225.
"close grip" bench would be something I would substitute if we're looking at maintaining the appeal of benching. That would at least target muscle groups that translate a bit more to the field itself.
But yeah, any trainer or coach worth their salt will tell you a better athlete starts with power cleans and deads.
See above. I tried a 300 pound dead lift when I was in my 20s and almost threw my back out.
There's a reason why they don't do those at the Combine. Risk of injury. Same reason they don't let prospects show how much they can bench, which for most of them is way more than 225.
See above. I tried a 300 pound dead lift when I was in my 20s and almost threw my back out.
I moved to rack pulls being I wanted to isolate some stuff and I'm 29. But if you're a professional athlete with professional trainers like these kids and you throw your back out doing set of 3 deads.... Just can't see it happening. Meanwhile repping 225 to failure and worrying about form later lends it self towards injury. As such you saw with Price and possibly some of the reasons you hear about shoulder and pec issues after the combine.
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There's a reason why they don't do those at the Combine. Risk of injury. Same reason they don't let prospects show how much they can bench, which for most of them is way more than 225.
See above. I tried a 300 pound dead lift when I was in my 20s and almost threw my back out.
I moved to rack pulls being I wanted to isolate some stuff and I'm 29. But if you're a professional athlete with professional trainers like these kids and you throw your back out doing set of 3 deads.... Just can't see it happening. Meanwhile repping 225 to failure and worrying about form later lends it self towards injury. As such you saw with Price and possibly some of the reasons you hear about shoulder and pec issues after the combine.
I moved to rack pulls being I wanted to isolate some stuff and I'm 29. But if you're a professional athlete with professional trainers like these kids and you throw your back out doing set of 3 deads.... Just can't see it happening. Meanwhile repping 225 to failure and worrying about form later lends it self towards injury. As such you saw with Price and possibly some of the reasons you hear about shoulder and pec issues after the combine.
My goal is to not pay for the 72 oz steak out in Amarillo which is free if you can eat it without throwing up. Takes two hands I think.
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Saquon, Saquon! He doing about what I expected him to do.
4.41 and 4.42 - 40 yard dash + *233 lbs at 4.4 is pretty impressive despite expectations
Verticle Jump - 41 inches ++
Bench Press - 29 reps +++
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Saquon, Saquon! He doing about what I expected him to do.
4.41 and 4.42 - 40 yard dash + *233 lbs at 4.4 is pretty impressive despite expectations
Verticle Jump - 41 inches ++
Bench Press - 29 reps +++
Saquon, Saquon! He doing about what I expected him to do.
4.41 and 4.42 - 40 yard dash + *233 lbs at 4.4 is pretty impressive despite expectations
Verticle Jump - 41 inches ++
Bench Press - 29 reps +++
I recall you saying he would run 4.33 and probable to run sub 4.3. You projected him to break the record of reps at bench press he failed to do so. I quit following your love fest before you predicted a vertical leap. He is having a good underwear olympics.. It would be great if he was consistent in football games instead of having 1 or 2 splash plays a game against college defenses then being sub par the rest of the game. Note he won't have the same amount of splash plays against NFL defenses. He may turn out to be an average back and great return man ala Darren sproles.
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He runs Official 4.0 in the 40.
Zoom-Zoom!
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
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I moved to rack pulls being I wanted to isolate some stuff and I'm 29. But if you're a professional athlete with professional trainers like these kids and you throw your back out doing set of 3 deads.... Just can't see it happening. Meanwhile repping 225 to failure and worrying about form later lends it self towards injury. As such you saw with Price and possibly some of the reasons you hear about shoulder and pec issues after the combine.
My goal is to not pay for the 72 oz steak out in Amarillo which is free if you can eat it without throwing up. Takes two hands I think.
My goal is to not pay for the 72 oz steak out in Amarillo which is free if you can eat it without throwing up. Takes two hands I think.
Bill,
Is it true that that particular steak is marinated in syrup of ipecac ??
Mike
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Still don't want a HB that high
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
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Saquon, Saquon! He doing about what I expected him to do.
4.41 and 4.42 - 40 yard dash + *233 lbs at 4.4 is pretty impressive despite expectations
Verticle Jump - 41 inches ++
Bench Press - 29 reps +++
Saquon, Saquon! He doing about what I expected him to do.
4.41 and 4.42 - 40 yard dash + *233 lbs at 4.4 is pretty impressive despite expectations
Verticle Jump - 41 inches ++
Bench Press - 29 reps +++
Very impressive. But shouldn't we all be extremely disappointed since you told us he would run sub 4.3?
You told us to trust you on him, and you obviously know all about him, so he will not live up to your monstrous expectations?
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The guy is a dynamic playmaker, don't pass him up. Depending on which QB you like best, there is an excellent chance of getting him at four, with no pressure on him if we bring in a bridge QB as well.
Zombo
--I like Darnold best, but Barkley/Rosen or Barkley/Mayfield could be a great combo, if our war room likes those guys more or as much.
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Dorsey word was Best "Player" Available. Not sure where best "Athlete" would fall? Either way, Huejax has not been given a QB talent that will still be sitting at pick #4..get your QB wizard outfit ready again Huey..( some QB, in Dorseys eyes, better really seperate in coming weeks)
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Since when did 4.40 or 4.42 equal 4.0?
He forgot about the leading 4 Ag. Just too excited.
Yeah, Barkley is good- as Mayock said "he checks all the boxes". Checked them enough that we might potentially have to go with the third best QB? Remains to be seen.
EDIT: I'll (sort of) take that back. To flip picks with the Colts to move up from #4 to #3- should only cost us our #35, which his plenty- going by draft value chart. If we have two quarterbacks rated exactly equal, and another team doesn't offer the Colts a King's Ransom for the #3.
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The guy is a dynamic playmaker, don't pass him up. Depending on which QB you like best, there is an excellent chance of getting him at four, with no pressure on him if we bring in a bridge QB as well.
Zombo
--I like Darnold best, but Barkley/Rosen or Barkley/Mayfield could be a great combo, if our war room likes those guys more or as much.
Zombo said:
The guy is a dynamic playmaker, don't pass him up. Depending on which QB you like best, there is an excellent chance of getting him at four, with no pressure on him if we bring in a bridge QB as well.
Zombo
--I like Darnold best, but Barkley/Rosen or Barkley/Mayfield could be a great combo, if our war room likes those guys more or as much.
Well Z, we take Barkley @ #1 overall, guaranteed one of Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield will be there. Even better if a team either trades up foolishly (IMHO) or takes Allen @ #2 or #3.
BUT- if we see one of the quarterbacks as a "can't miss" franchise guy- we'll just have to go that route, and take a consolation prize in Guice, or Michel later on in the draft.
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