Barkley at #1?
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The King is useless (he would be Hue)
The queen is the most valuable piece on the chess board.....and for you that's a running back. That's who you say is the most valuable person on the football field. BUT, to the rest of the football world, it's the QB that's the most valuable.
The Queen can go anywhere on the board like a RB. The King stays back behind the Pawns.
The King is Josh Allen and the Queen Barkley.
The King is Josh Allen and the Queen Barkley.
The queen (QB) can push the ball to just about any place on the field.
Bottom line, the QB is FAR and AWAY the most important person on the football team. (including coaches)
The RB is a mere accessory that can be had in almost any round.
Put Barkley on our team last year and he gains crap for yardage.....because the D's would just stack him and bottle him. If ya got no QB, ya got nothin'!
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I thought he meant that it was a RB who "lead" a team to the Super Bowl win in 2013. Who was that?
Ah- he's most likely talking Marshawn Lynch. Looking at his career stats, he's probably HOF material. But as Walter Payton before him with Da Bears- the Seattle defense was as much responsible for the Super Bowl win, and responsible for getting them there in the first place. Cam Chancellor and Richard Sherman in their prime. I just watched the highlights of that Super Bowl, and the Seahawks defense came up with a couple interceptions (one a pick 6) and a forced fumble. I wasn't aware Lynch played defense.
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After thinking, I still have to hang my hat on drafting a QB (BM?) at #1. If we like SB that much, is trading up from 4 something the Browns may consider?
We'll see!
Mike
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Do tell!
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OK forgot about Faulk, my bad. I said "generational" RBs. That means to my mind a once in a 20 year talent, not a once in every 3-5 year talent. A guy who you can put in the conversation with the GOATs- the Browns, Payton's, and Sanders. Faulk, Tomlinson, and certainly not Lynch aren't on that level. So, Boo you want to tell me that Saquon will be on the GOAT level, since you're saying draft him #1 overall? Plenty of game tape to the contrary? Plenty of history showing a HOF QB trumps HOF RB? I'll even put Barkley on Adrian Peterson level for comparison, he'd be a nice complimentary piece on the Browns if we already had our franchise quarterback, too bad we DON'T.
PS regarding Seattle and Beast Mode, (as with Payton and the Bears) he can thank the Legion of Boom for getting them there.
Well, hell. Look what I found.
However, if the Browns snag the quarterback that the Giants view as the best in this class, a generational talent at running back in Penn State's Saquon Barkley could ignite a Giants' offense that is already loaded with talented playmakers such as Odell Beckham Jr., Sterling Shepard, and Evan Engram. http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2018/03/giants_nfl_draft_big_board_ranking_top-5_prospects.html#incart_river_index
Barkley is the missing piece to the Giants puzzle. Not QB right now.
Well, hell. Look what I found.
However, if the Browns snag the quarterback that the Giants view as the best in this class, a generational talent at running back in Penn State's Saquon Barkley could ignite a Giants' offense that is already loaded with talented playmakers such as Odell Beckham Jr., Sterling Shepard, and Evan Engram. http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2018/03/giants_nfl_draft_big_board_ranking_top-5_prospects.html#incart_river_index
Barkley is the missing piece to the Giants puzzle. Not QB right now.
Well you've seen at Penn State Barkley can't play OL... so fat chance the Gmen get their offense "ignited" without addressing their massive problems up front.
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No way we take a RB NO. 1. We take a QB. End of cowpoop. Next.
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I can’t wait until we don’t have to hear about drafting a RB #1 the Retardation levels are getting dangerously high.
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I'm starting to sense a rumbling growl deep inside the Dawgpound. Dogs do what dogs do. Dogs do dog things. Dog recognize dog and somehow we are drawn together... Be it destiny, be it fate.
I'm excited because this is only the beginning for this dog. This dog is never satisfied. Never sated and always hungry for success at every level, at every endeavor.
I've always thought that Cleveland needed a Superman. Saquon might not be Superman, but he's got an "S" on his chest and he's fittin to try his best... No, not Superman... but he's damn close, closest we're going to find for a long time.
He's an alpha dog, he'll get the locker room and the team in a frenzy! He's the type of player that guys rally around. They play better, harder. They see him and it inspires them to go above and beyond for the team and the game. Players like Peppers, Coleman, Gordon, Njoku, Devalve and Duke Johnson are going to excel and grow.
From the first time I saw Barkley I thought that he reminded me of a kid that plays for my soccer team. This kid is amazing, he gives the other kids hope. He raises their ability and belief that they can win just by being on his team. It's easy to spot when you know what to look for. Barkley is a General.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
I'm starting to sense a rumbling growl deep inside the Dawgpound. Dogs do what dogs do. Dogs do dog things. Dog recognize dog and somehow we are drawn together... Be it destiny, be it fate.
I'm excited because this is only the beginning for this dog. This dog is never satisfied. Never sated and always hungry for success at every level, at every endeavor.
I've always thought that Cleveland needed a Superman. Saquon might not be Superman, but he's got an "S" on his chest and he's fittin to try his best... No, not Superman... but he's damn close, closest we're going to find for a long time.
He's an alpha dog, he'll get the locker room and the team in a frenzy! He's the type of player that guys rally around. They play better, harder. They see him and it inspires them to go above and beyond for the team and the game. Players like Peppers, Coleman, Gordon, Njoku, Devalve and Duke Johnson are going to excel and grow.
From the first time I saw Barkley I thought that he reminded me of a kid that plays for my soccer team. This kid is amazing, he gives the other kids hope. He raises their ability and belief that they can win just by being on his team. It's easy to spot when you know what to look for. Barkley is a General.
I'm starting to sense a rumbling growl deep inside the Dawgpound. Dogs do what dogs do. Dogs do dog things. Dog recognize dog and somehow we are drawn together... Be it destiny, be it fate.
I'm excited because this is only the beginning for this dog. This dog is never satisfied. Never sated and always hungry for success at every level, at every endeavor.
I've always thought that Cleveland needed a Superman. Saquon might not be Superman, but he's got an "S" on his chest and he's fittin to try his best... No, not Superman... but he's damn close, closest we're going to find for a long time.
He's an alpha dog, he'll get the locker room and the team in a frenzy! He's the type of player that guys rally around. They play better, harder. They see him and it inspires them to go above and beyond for the team and the game. Players like Peppers, Coleman, Gordon, Njoku, Devalve and Duke Johnson are going to excel and grow.
From the first time I saw Barkley I thought that he reminded me of a kid that plays for my soccer team. This kid is amazing, he gives the other kids hope. He raises their ability and belief that they can win just by being on his team. It's easy to spot when you know what to look for. Barkley is a General.
Backtracking I see from your earlier talk. Smart, because NOBODY could live up to those statements and expectations
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I'm starting to sense a rumbling growl deep inside the Dawgpound. Dogs do what dogs do. Dogs do dog things. Dog recognize dog and somehow we are drawn together... Be it destiny, be it fate.
I'm excited because this is only the beginning for this dog. This dog is never satisfied. Never sated and always hungry for success at every level, at every endeavor.
I've always thought that Cleveland needed a Superman. Saquon might not be Superman, but he's got an "S" on his chest and he's fittin to try his best... No, not Superman... but he's damn close, closest we're going to find for a long time.
He's an alpha dog, he'll get the locker room and the team in a frenzy! He's the type of player that guys rally around. They play better, harder. They see him and it inspires them to go above and beyond for the team and the game. Players like Peppers, Coleman, Gordon, Njoku, Devalve and Duke Johnson are going to excel and grow.
From the first time I saw Barkley I thought that he reminded me of a kid that plays for my soccer team. This kid is amazing, he gives the other kids hope. He raises their ability and belief that they can win just by being on his team. It's easy to spot when you know what to look for. Barkley is a General.
I'm starting to sense a rumbling growl deep inside the Dawgpound. Dogs do what dogs do. Dogs do dog things. Dog recognize dog and somehow we are drawn together... Be it destiny, be it fate.
I'm excited because this is only the beginning for this dog. This dog is never satisfied. Never sated and always hungry for success at every level, at every endeavor.
I've always thought that Cleveland needed a Superman. Saquon might not be Superman, but he's got an "S" on his chest and he's fittin to try his best... No, not Superman... but he's damn close, closest we're going to find for a long time.
He's an alpha dog, he'll get the locker room and the team in a frenzy! He's the type of player that guys rally around. They play better, harder. They see him and it inspires them to go above and beyond for the team and the game. Players like Peppers, Coleman, Gordon, Njoku, Devalve and Duke Johnson are going to excel and grow.
From the first time I saw Barkley I thought that he reminded me of a kid that plays for my soccer team. This kid is amazing, he gives the other kids hope. He raises their ability and belief that they can win just by being on his team. It's easy to spot when you know what to look for. Barkley is a General.
I'd rather have General Fitzpatrick on this team that needs defensive leaders. RBs will be there in rd 2.
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I'm starting to sense a rumbling growl deep inside the Dawgpound. Dogs do what dogs do. Dogs do dog things. Dog recognize dog and somehow we are drawn together... Be it destiny, be it fate.
I'm excited because this is only the beginning for this dog. This dog is never satisfied. Never sated and always hungry for success at every level, at every endeavor.
I've always thought that Cleveland needed a Superman. Saquon might not be Superman, but he's got an "S" on his chest and he's fittin to try his best... No, not Superman... but he's damn close, closest we're going to find for a long time.
He's an alpha dog, he'll get the locker room and the team in a frenzy! He's the type of player that guys rally around. They play better, harder. They see him and it inspires them to go above and beyond for the team and the game. Players like Peppers, Coleman, Gordon, Njoku, Devalve and Duke Johnson are going to excel and grow.
From the first time I saw Barkley I thought that he reminded me of a kid that plays for my soccer team. This kid is amazing, he gives the other kids hope. He raises their ability and belief that they can win just by being on his team. It's easy to spot when you know what to look for. Barkley is a General.
From the first time I saw Barkley I thought that he reminded me of a kid that plays for my soccer team. This kid is amazing, he gives the other kids hope. He raises their ability and belief that they can win just by being on his team. It's easy to spot when you know what to look for. Barkley is a General.
And yet Penn State, in their two biggest games in the last two seasons (vs. USC in 2016, vs. Ohio State in 2017) blew big leads and lost both games with the legend that is Saquon Barkley.
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I'm starting to sense a rumbling growl deep inside the Dawgpound. Dogs do what dogs do. Dogs do dog things. Dog recognize dog and somehow we are drawn together... Be it destiny, be it fate.
I'm excited because this is only the beginning for this dog. This dog is never satisfied. Never sated and always hungry for success at every level, at every endeavor.
I've always thought that Cleveland needed a Superman. Saquon might not be Superman, but he's got an "S" on his chest and he's fittin to try his best... No, not Superman... but he's damn close, closest we're going to find for a long time.
He's an alpha dog, he'll get the locker room and the team in a frenzy! He's the type of player that guys rally around. They play better, harder. They see him and it inspires them to go above and beyond for the team and the game. Players like Peppers, Coleman, Gordon, Njoku, Devalve and Duke Johnson are going to excel and grow.
From the first time I saw Barkley I thought that he reminded me of a kid that plays for my soccer team. This kid is amazing, he gives the other kids hope. He raises their ability and belief that they can win just by being on his team. It's easy to spot when you know what to look for. Barkley is a General.
I'd rather have General Fitzpatrick on this team that needs defensive leaders. RBs will be there in rd 2.
I'd rather have General Fitzpatrick on this team that needs defensive leaders. RBs will be there in rd 2.
And Round 3, and Round 4...
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Barkley will not bring you down the field in the two minute drill to pull out a victory. He is an accessory.
If we get our QB of the current & future in FA...then I suppose you could take an accessory in the draft.
Barkley will not bring you down the field in the two minute drill to pull out a victory. He is an accessory.
If we get our QB of the current & future in FA...then I suppose you could take an accessory in the draft.
Hey, if you can find a guy like that at 1 great.
Who is it? Last week it was Rosen. This week Mayfield is the bride to be. 2 weeks from today?
Drafting a QB and giving him the starting job will be another train wreck. You make him earn playing time behind a Vet QB who can win you 7 - 8 games and make some noise.
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Can I count on you for a reference?
Yep. But don't think you want me as a reference, the countless years of my involvement in the game obviously didn't give me any knowledge. Just putting my name down will hurt you.
Yep. But don't think you want me as a reference, the countless years of my involvement in the game obviously didn't give me any knowledge. Just putting my name down will hurt you.
Nonsense, I have you and Ghoolie lined up.
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Nonsense, I have you and Ghoolie lined up.
I may disagree with you, but I didn't dislike you until thst comment, dont EVER mention him and I in same sentence.
Very insulting
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Barkley will not bring you down the field in the two minute drill to pull out a victory. He is an accessory.
If we get our QB of the current & future in FA...then I suppose you could take an accessory in the draft.
Hey, if you can find a guy like that at 1 great.
Who is it? Last week it was Rosen. This week Mayfield is the bride to be. 2 weeks from today?
Drafting a QB and giving him the starting job will be another train wreck. You make him earn playing time behind a Vet QB who can win you 7 - 8 games and make some noise.
Drafting a QB and giving him the starting job will be another train wreck. You make him earn playing time behind a Vet QB who can win you 7 - 8 games and make some noise.
agreed
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Isn't it funny. I label the 2018 draft saying EMPHATICALLY................. Barkley is THE #1 pick, just as was Trubisky. THe browns fukcked up last year and made the #51 pick the #1 pick, while the Bears got the true #1.
his year is no different. The QBs are all okay. Whichever one we would get, is a stab in the dark.
Again, I would not take a QB. Sign McCarron or similar, let him compete with Black Tarkenton. YOu take Barkley #1. You trade next year's #1 with some combination of Zumba balls, Coleman and Thomas and wind up with another (3d_ first round pick this year. Barkely, then WR, then WR, at the second round, find a big, blocking, punching, badass FB. Then,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, THen you can say the Browns had a great draft. But just standing pat at #1 and #4? BORING.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
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