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Cousins to sign 3 year $84M fully guaranteed deal, insane?

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    OK, but Jeez.....the money JG made....and the money Cousins will make:

    Imagine what the actually really GOOD QBs in this league could/should be making:

    Brady,   BR, Rodgers,  Wilson,  Flacco, Ryan,  Stafford,   Luck..if he were healthy,  Brees (though I guess he got a deal done),  Rivers, Carr

    ....all of whom I rate above Cousins...and JG....at this point.

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    Gunz41G Gunz41 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    OK, but Jeez.....the money JG made....and the money Cousins will make:

    Imagine what the actually really GOOD QBs in this league could/should be making:

    Brady,   BR, Rodgers,  Wilson,  Flacco, Ryan,  Stafford,   Luck..if he were healthy,  Brees (though I guess he got a deal done),  Rivers, Carr

    ....all of whom I rate above Cousins...and JG....at this point.

    All should rate higher except may Fluco. 

    I also would have Alex Smith. 

    And a few of the young guys, JG included may after more time.

    I have never seen Flacco as much of a top QB, or Cousins. Cousins put up great NUMBERS, but not his play

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      https://www.google.com/amp/s/buffalowdown.com/2018/03/12/buffalo-bills-will-draft-josh-rosen/amp/

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      @sd_tom said:

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/buffalowdown.com/2018/03/12/buffalo-bills-will-draft-josh-rosen/amp/

      They won't draft Rosen if he is not on the board.  Does this guy think Rosen will slip to 12?  

      For all we know....the Browns still may take him at #1.

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        @the-gipper said:

        OK, but Jeez.....the money JG made....and the money Cousins will make:

        Imagine what the actually really GOOD QBs in this league could/should be making:

        Brady,   BR, Rodgers,  Wilson,  Flacco, Ryan,  Stafford,   Luck..if he were healthy,  Brees (though I guess he got a deal done),  Rivers, Carr

        ....all of whom I rate above Cousins...and JG....at this point.

        All should rate higher except may Fluco. 

        I also would have Alex Smith. 

        And a few of the young guys, JG included may after more time.

        I have never seen Flacco as much of a top QB, or Cousins. Cousins put up great NUMBERS, but not his play

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        @gunz41 said:

        All should rate higher except may Fluco. 

        I also would have Alex Smith. 

        And a few of the young guys, JG included may after more time.

        I have never seen Flacco as much of a top QB, or Cousins. Cousins put up great NUMBERS, but not his play

        His own team didn't think they could win with him.   It is why they never cut a long term deal with him.   Because, they were right.  He was 26-30-1.

        Now...the rest of the shite on that team had a lot to do with it....but he never got his team to rise above the level of mediocrity...

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        • The GipperT The Gipper

          OK, but Jeez.....the money JG made....and the money Cousins will make:

          Imagine what the actually really GOOD QBs in this league could/should be making:

          Brady,   BR, Rodgers,  Wilson,  Flacco, Ryan,  Stafford,   Luck..if he were healthy,  Brees (though I guess he got a deal done),  Rivers, Carr

          ....all of whom I rate above Cousins...and JG....at this point.

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          hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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          @the-gipper said:

          OK, but Jeez.....the money JG made....and the money Cousins will make:

          Imagine what the actually really GOOD QBs in this league could/should be making:

          Brady,   BR, Rodgers,  Wilson,  Flacco, Ryan,  Stafford,   Luck..if he were healthy,  Brees (though I guess he got a deal done),  Rivers, Carr

          ....all of whom I rate above Cousins...and JG....at this point.

          Next in line for a big raise is Matt Ryan, after him Aaron Rodgers. Stay tuned Gip. 

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          • The GipperT The Gipper

            @sd_tom said:

            https://www.google.com/amp/s/buffalowdown.com/2018/03/12/buffalo-bills-will-draft-josh-rosen/amp/

            They won't draft Rosen if he is not on the board.  Does this guy think Rosen will slip to 12?  

            For all we know....the Browns still may take him at #1.

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            @the-gipper said:

            They won't draft Rosen if he is not on the board.  Does this guy think Rosen will slip to 12?  

            For all we know....the Browns still may take him at #1.

            No way he drops out of the top 5,  I agree,  unless they trade the house to move up 

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              @the-gipper said:

              They won't draft Rosen if he is not on the board.  Does this guy think Rosen will slip to 12?  

              For all we know....the Browns still may take him at #1.

              No way he drops out of the top 5,  I agree,  unless they trade the house to move up 

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              @sd_tom said:

              No way he drops out of the top 5,  I agree,  unless they trade the house to move up 

              Which....they might.   But I see that probably happening only on draft day....only after the Browns have made their choice.....then the Bills may want to move up to as high as #2....if the Browns haven't taken him. 

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                stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                In a league with teams starved for a franchise QB, it makes sense, but damn, The Vikings could of kept Keenum and drafted a guy. I would've done that over overpaying for Cousins. As far as Jimmy G goes, I always predicted he'd be lights out when he's ready, and I for sure think he's worth the contract he received. 

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                  https://www.google.com/amp/s/buffalowdown.com/2018/03/12/buffalo-bills-will-draft-josh-rosen/amp/

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                  hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                  @sd_tom said:

                  https://www.google.com/amp/s/buffalowdown.com/2018/03/12/buffalo-bills-will-draft-josh-rosen/amp/

                  Here's how the FA QB sweepstakes affects the top of the draft- just my humble opinion. Cousins to the Vikes- no surprise. Keenum to the Broncos, Elway decided Cousin's contract is too rich for his blood. Bradford (one year deal) to the Cardinals. 

                  We'll assume the Browns take their preferred QB at #1. Broncos now unlikely to trade up, they'll sit at #5 and cross their fingers. Jets are left out in the cold. If the Bills want Rosen- they have the draft picks to do so, assuming the Giants or Colts are willing to trade down. The Jets could get in a bidding war for the #2 with the Bills. MHO is the Cardinals don't have the draft ammo to move into the top five, they may wind up having to take Rudolph or Jackson- whichever they prefer. 

                  I've been saying very possible QBs could go in the first three picks. Nirvana for the Browns at #4. Chubb or Barkley are sitting there for us.  🙂  

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                  • nickersN nickers

                    That's just Dumb.. sink all that money into one player.. OOooookay!

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                    Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                    @nickers said:

                    That's just Dumb.. sink all that money into one player.. OOooookay!

                    ...and that one player ain't exactly elite! Unfortunately, the bar has been set.

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                    • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

                      @nickers said:

                      That's just Dumb.. sink all that money into one player.. OOooookay!

                      ...and that one player ain't exactly elite! Unfortunately, the bar has been set.

                      Mike

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @canton-mike said:

                      ...and that one player ain't exactly elite! Unfortunately, the bar has been set.

                      Mike

                      I just made a prediction on another thread that I think that Vikings fans will wish they had Keenum back next year, rather than Cousins.

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                        @the-gipper said:

                        They won't draft Rosen if he is not on the board.  Does this guy think Rosen will slip to 12?  

                        For all we know....the Browns still may take him at #1.

                        No way he drops out of the top 5,  I agree,  unless they trade the house to move up 

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                        hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                        @sd_tom said:

                        No way he drops out of the top 5,  I agree,  unless they trade the house to move up 

                        The Bills have a very nice house to bargain with Tom.  🙂  Picks #12 and #22 in the first, #53, #56 in the second, and #65 (top of the third from the Browns) and # 96.   

                        Throw in a future first round, and that's probably enough to get the Browns interested to move out of #1..    

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                        • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

                          @nickers said:

                          That's just Dumb.. sink all that money into one player.. OOooookay!

                          ...and that one player ain't exactly elite! Unfortunately, the bar has been set.

                          Mike

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                          nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                          @canton-mike said:

                          ...and that one player ain't exactly elite! Unfortunately, the bar has been set.

                          Mike

                          If an average QB like Cousuns gets $130Mill what should Rogers command.. $200 Mill?

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                            @sd_tom said:

                            No way he drops out of the top 5,  I agree,  unless they trade the house to move up 

                            The Bills have a very nice house to bargain with Tom.  🙂  Picks #12 and #22 in the first, #53, #56 in the second, and #65 (top of the third from the Browns) and # 96.   

                            Throw in a future first round, and that's probably enough to get the Browns interested to move out of #1..    

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                            nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers
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                            @hoorta said:

                            The Bills have a very nice house to bargain with Tom.  🙂  Picks #12 and #22 in the first, #53, #56 in the second, and #65 (top of the third from the Browns) and # 96.   

                            Throw in a future first round, and that's probably enough to get the Browns interested to move out of #1..    

                            If "Sisha" were still running the show , you could bank on that.. I think Dorsey is more shrewed...

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                              @canton-mike said:

                              ...and that one player ain't exactly elite! Unfortunately, the bar has been set.

                              Mike

                              If an average QB like Cousuns gets $130Mill what should Rogers command.. $200 Mill?

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                              Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                              @nickers said:

                              If an average QB like Cousuns gets $130Mill what should Rogers command.. $200 Mill?

                              Per year???   🙄

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                                @hoorta said:

                                The Bills have a very nice house to bargain with Tom.  🙂  Picks #12 and #22 in the first, #53, #56 in the second, and #65 (top of the third from the Browns) and # 96.   

                                Throw in a future first round, and that's probably enough to get the Browns interested to move out of #1..    

                                If "Sisha" were still running the show , you could bank on that.. I think Dorsey is more shrewed...

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                                @nickers said:

                                If Sishi were still running the show , you could bank on that.. I think Dorsey is more shrewed...

                                Yeah it won't happen. But could ya imagine? we get our QB at #4, two more picks in the first, and five in the second?  Hit on five out of the seven, and you could almost rebuild the roster in one year..  

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                                  I think NFL pay is going up because of the dangers of the sport. that being said, if NBA players make those kind of deals, how is it supposed to make NFL players feel?

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                                    But how long can they keep raising prices.. The little guy is just about void of affording game tickets now as it is... Whose gonna pay for this Sheet?.. Not me...

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                                      But how long can they keep raising prices.. The little guy is just about void of affording game tickets now as it is... Whose gonna pay for this Sheet?.. Not me...

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                                      hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                      @nickers said:

                                      But how long can they keep raising prices.. The little guy is just about void of affording game tickets now as it is... Whose gonna pay for this Sheet?.. Not me...

                                      What will kill rising prices, and salaries- is stagnant TV revenue- the NFL's real cash cow. Not game ticket prices.  I wouldn't complain too much. This list won't sort- and I assume it's secondary market- but the Browns were third cheapest in the NFL to go watch a game. Foxboro would cost you triple. 

                                      https://www.vividseats.com/blog/2017-nfl-pricing-preview

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                                        In a league with teams starved for a franchise QB, it makes sense, but damn, The Vikings could of kept Keenum and drafted a guy. I would've done that over overpaying for Cousins. As far as Jimmy G goes, I always predicted he'd be lights out when he's ready, and I for sure think he's worth the contract he received. 

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                                        B Bob Wiley wrote on last edited by
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                                        @stillmotion said:

                                        In a league with teams starved for a franchise QB, it makes sense, but damn, The Vikings could of kept Keenum and drafted a guy. I would've done that over overpaying for Cousins. As far as Jimmy G goes, I always predicted he'd be lights out when he's ready, and I for sure think he's worth the contract he received. 

                                        The perception here in Mn is that Keenum is smart, agile, but has a weak arm. Most of the “experts” think Cousins is a better athlete, as smart, and has a much stronger arm.

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                                          @stillmotion said:

                                          In a league with teams starved for a franchise QB, it makes sense, but damn, The Vikings could of kept Keenum and drafted a guy. I would've done that over overpaying for Cousins. As far as Jimmy G goes, I always predicted he'd be lights out when he's ready, and I for sure think he's worth the contract he received. 

                                          The perception here in Mn is that Keenum is smart, agile, but has a weak arm. Most of the “experts” think Cousins is a better athlete, as smart, and has a much stronger arm.

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                                          @bob-wiley said:

                                          The perception here in Mn is that Keenum is smart, agile, but has a weak arm. Most of the “experts” think Cousins is a better athlete, as smart, and has a much stronger arm.

                                          I'd argue Keenum has a higher football IQ and is a much better game manager. Cousins is bigger and more athletic, but in my opinion the tinier Keenum is more efficent compared with the salary he's getting.

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