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Cousins to sign 3 year $84M fully guaranteed deal, insane?

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  • S SD_Tom

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/buffalowdown.com/2018/03/12/buffalo-bills-will-draft-josh-rosen/amp/

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    @sd_tom said:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/buffalowdown.com/2018/03/12/buffalo-bills-will-draft-josh-rosen/amp/

    Here's how the FA QB sweepstakes affects the top of the draft- just my humble opinion. Cousins to the Vikes- no surprise. Keenum to the Broncos, Elway decided Cousin's contract is too rich for his blood. Bradford (one year deal) to the Cardinals. 

    We'll assume the Browns take their preferred QB at #1. Broncos now unlikely to trade up, they'll sit at #5 and cross their fingers. Jets are left out in the cold. If the Bills want Rosen- they have the draft picks to do so, assuming the Giants or Colts are willing to trade down. The Jets could get in a bidding war for the #2 with the Bills. MHO is the Cardinals don't have the draft ammo to move into the top five, they may wind up having to take Rudolph or Jackson- whichever they prefer. 

    I've been saying very possible QBs could go in the first three picks. Nirvana for the Browns at #4. Chubb or Barkley are sitting there for us.  🙂  

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      That's just Dumb.. sink all that money into one player.. OOooookay!

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      Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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      @nickers said:

      That's just Dumb.. sink all that money into one player.. OOooookay!

      ...and that one player ain't exactly elite! Unfortunately, the bar has been set.

      Mike

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        @nickers said:

        That's just Dumb.. sink all that money into one player.. OOooookay!

        ...and that one player ain't exactly elite! Unfortunately, the bar has been set.

        Mike

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        @canton-mike said:

        ...and that one player ain't exactly elite! Unfortunately, the bar has been set.

        Mike

        I just made a prediction on another thread that I think that Vikings fans will wish they had Keenum back next year, rather than Cousins.

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          @the-gipper said:

          They won't draft Rosen if he is not on the board.  Does this guy think Rosen will slip to 12?  

          For all we know....the Browns still may take him at #1.

          No way he drops out of the top 5,  I agree,  unless they trade the house to move up 

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          @sd_tom said:

          No way he drops out of the top 5,  I agree,  unless they trade the house to move up 

          The Bills have a very nice house to bargain with Tom.  🙂  Picks #12 and #22 in the first, #53, #56 in the second, and #65 (top of the third from the Browns) and # 96.   

          Throw in a future first round, and that's probably enough to get the Browns interested to move out of #1..    

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            @nickers said:

            That's just Dumb.. sink all that money into one player.. OOooookay!

            ...and that one player ain't exactly elite! Unfortunately, the bar has been set.

            Mike

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            @canton-mike said:

            ...and that one player ain't exactly elite! Unfortunately, the bar has been set.

            Mike

            If an average QB like Cousuns gets $130Mill what should Rogers command.. $200 Mill?

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              @sd_tom said:

              No way he drops out of the top 5,  I agree,  unless they trade the house to move up 

              The Bills have a very nice house to bargain with Tom.  🙂  Picks #12 and #22 in the first, #53, #56 in the second, and #65 (top of the third from the Browns) and # 96.   

              Throw in a future first round, and that's probably enough to get the Browns interested to move out of #1..    

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              @hoorta said:

              The Bills have a very nice house to bargain with Tom.  🙂  Picks #12 and #22 in the first, #53, #56 in the second, and #65 (top of the third from the Browns) and # 96.   

              Throw in a future first round, and that's probably enough to get the Browns interested to move out of #1..    

              If "Sisha" were still running the show , you could bank on that.. I think Dorsey is more shrewed...

              Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                @canton-mike said:

                ...and that one player ain't exactly elite! Unfortunately, the bar has been set.

                Mike

                If an average QB like Cousuns gets $130Mill what should Rogers command.. $200 Mill?

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                Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                @nickers said:

                If an average QB like Cousuns gets $130Mill what should Rogers command.. $200 Mill?

                Per year???   🙄

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                  @hoorta said:

                  The Bills have a very nice house to bargain with Tom.  🙂  Picks #12 and #22 in the first, #53, #56 in the second, and #65 (top of the third from the Browns) and # 96.   

                  Throw in a future first round, and that's probably enough to get the Browns interested to move out of #1..    

                  If "Sisha" were still running the show , you could bank on that.. I think Dorsey is more shrewed...

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                  @nickers said:

                  If Sishi were still running the show , you could bank on that.. I think Dorsey is more shrewed...

                  Yeah it won't happen. But could ya imagine? we get our QB at #4, two more picks in the first, and five in the second?  Hit on five out of the seven, and you could almost rebuild the roster in one year..  

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                    I think NFL pay is going up because of the dangers of the sport. that being said, if NBA players make those kind of deals, how is it supposed to make NFL players feel?

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                      nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                      But how long can they keep raising prices.. The little guy is just about void of affording game tickets now as it is... Whose gonna pay for this Sheet?.. Not me...

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                        But how long can they keep raising prices.. The little guy is just about void of affording game tickets now as it is... Whose gonna pay for this Sheet?.. Not me...

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                        @nickers said:

                        But how long can they keep raising prices.. The little guy is just about void of affording game tickets now as it is... Whose gonna pay for this Sheet?.. Not me...

                        What will kill rising prices, and salaries- is stagnant TV revenue- the NFL's real cash cow. Not game ticket prices.  I wouldn't complain too much. This list won't sort- and I assume it's secondary market- but the Browns were third cheapest in the NFL to go watch a game. Foxboro would cost you triple. 

                        https://www.vividseats.com/blog/2017-nfl-pricing-preview

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                          In a league with teams starved for a franchise QB, it makes sense, but damn, The Vikings could of kept Keenum and drafted a guy. I would've done that over overpaying for Cousins. As far as Jimmy G goes, I always predicted he'd be lights out when he's ready, and I for sure think he's worth the contract he received. 

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                          B Bob Wiley wrote on last edited by
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                          @stillmotion said:

                          In a league with teams starved for a franchise QB, it makes sense, but damn, The Vikings could of kept Keenum and drafted a guy. I would've done that over overpaying for Cousins. As far as Jimmy G goes, I always predicted he'd be lights out when he's ready, and I for sure think he's worth the contract he received. 

                          The perception here in Mn is that Keenum is smart, agile, but has a weak arm. Most of the “experts” think Cousins is a better athlete, as smart, and has a much stronger arm.

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                            @stillmotion said:

                            In a league with teams starved for a franchise QB, it makes sense, but damn, The Vikings could of kept Keenum and drafted a guy. I would've done that over overpaying for Cousins. As far as Jimmy G goes, I always predicted he'd be lights out when he's ready, and I for sure think he's worth the contract he received. 

                            The perception here in Mn is that Keenum is smart, agile, but has a weak arm. Most of the “experts” think Cousins is a better athlete, as smart, and has a much stronger arm.

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                            @bob-wiley said:

                            The perception here in Mn is that Keenum is smart, agile, but has a weak arm. Most of the “experts” think Cousins is a better athlete, as smart, and has a much stronger arm.

                            I'd argue Keenum has a higher football IQ and is a much better game manager. Cousins is bigger and more athletic, but in my opinion the tinier Keenum is more efficent compared with the salary he's getting.

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                              @stillmotion said:

                              In a league with teams starved for a franchise QB, it makes sense, but damn, The Vikings could of kept Keenum and drafted a guy. I would've done that over overpaying for Cousins. As far as Jimmy G goes, I always predicted he'd be lights out when he's ready, and I for sure think he's worth the contract he received. 

                              The perception here in Mn is that Keenum is smart, agile, but has a weak arm. Most of the “experts” think Cousins is a better athlete, as smart, and has a much stronger arm.

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                              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                              @bob-wiley said:

                              The perception here in Mn is that Keenum is smart, agile, but has a weak arm. Most of the “experts” think Cousins is a better athlete, as smart, and has a much stronger arm.

                              The Vikings will definitely be an interesting story to watch next season.

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                                @bob-wiley said:

                                The perception here in Mn is that Keenum is smart, agile, but has a weak arm. Most of the “experts” think Cousins is a better athlete, as smart, and has a much stronger arm.

                                The Vikings will definitely be an interesting story to watch next season.

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                                @dutch-oven said:

                                The Vikings will definitely be an interesting story to watch next season.

                                They don't make the playoffs somebody is going to come away smelling like a turd.

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                                  @dutch-oven said:

                                  The Vikings will definitely be an interesting story to watch next season.

                                  They don't make the playoffs somebody is going to come away smelling like a turd.

                                  WSS

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  They don't make the playoffs somebody is going to come away smelling like a turd.

                                  WSS

                                  Definitely.

                                  I think the Vikings are a very well-run team, so that would be a surprise to me, but now it's time for Cousins to put up or shut up. Was he a guy mired on a mediocre team, or a guy who puts up empty numbers?

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                                    @canton-mike said:

                                    ...and that one player ain't exactly elite! Unfortunately, the bar has been set.

                                    Mike

                                    If an average QB like Cousuns gets $130Mill what should Rogers command.. $200 Mill?

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                                    @nickers said:

                                    If an average QB like Cousuns gets $130Mill what should Rogers command.. $200 Mill?

                                    ......."Hi, I'm now your quarterback and new part owner of this here well run organization ".  😆

                                    Now if Mr. Cousins was the missing link, the savior of the Minnesota Vikings that might be one thing -OR- this might go down as one of the biggest guaranteed debacles in NFL history.  HMMMM, WHERE HAVE I  HEARD THAT BEFORE???

                                    .........The Herschel Walker trade was the largest player trade in the history of the National Football League.[1] This deal between the Dallas Cowboys and the Minnesota Vikings on October 12, 1989, centered around sending running back Herschel Walker from Dallas to Minnesota. Including Walker, the trade involved 18 players and draft picks.[2] At the time of the deal, the Cowboys were one of the worst teams in the league, trading away their best player, while the Vikings believed that Walker was the missing piece they needed to make to a Super Bowl run. Thus, Minnesota originally felt that they got the better end of the deal. Instead, the Cowboys used the draft picks acquired in this trade to get the players they needed to help them win three Super Bowls in the 1990s. Meanwhile, the Vikings still have not made a Super Bowl appearance since Super Bowl XI at the end of the 1976 season.

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                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      The Vikings will definitely be an interesting story to watch next season.

                                      They don't make the playoffs somebody is going to come away smelling like a turd.

                                      WSS

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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      They don't make the playoffs somebody is going to come away smelling like a turd.

                                      WSS

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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        They don't make the playoffs somebody is going to come away smelling like a turd.

                                        WSS

                                        Definitely.

                                        I think the Vikings are a very well-run team, so that would be a surprise to me, but now it's time for Cousins to put up or shut up. Was he a guy mired on a mediocre team, or a guy who puts up empty numbers?

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                                        @dutch-oven said:

                                        Definitely.

                                        I think the Vikings are a very well-run team, so that would be a surprise to me, but now it's time for Cousins to put up or shut up. Was he a guy mired on a mediocre team, or a guy who puts up empty numbers?

                                        He'd better be the missing piece of the puzzle to get the Vikes a SB win- like dropping Manning into a loaded Broncos roster did, or else it's an epic (and very expensive) FAIL.  

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                                          @dutch-oven said:

                                          Definitely.

                                          I think the Vikings are a very well-run team, so that would be a surprise to me, but now it's time for Cousins to put up or shut up. Was he a guy mired on a mediocre team, or a guy who puts up empty numbers?

                                          He'd better be the missing piece of the puzzle to get the Vikes a SB win- like dropping Manning into a loaded Broncos roster did, or else it's an epic (and very expensive) FAIL.  

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                                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                          @hoorta said:

                                          He'd better be the missing piece of the puzzle to get the Vikes a SB win- like dropping Manning into a loaded Broncos roster did, or else it's an epic (and very expensive) FAIL.  

                                          As much as I would like to see the Vikings come out of the NFC on top.....I do think it will be a fail...epic or not.   By that I mean....Vikings won't be as good as 13-3 as they were last year.   They may make playoffs, but will be an early out.  Just a prediction.

                                          So...that would not be an "epic" fail.   Epic failure would be if Cousins leads the Vikes to a record that matches his 26-30-1 career record.  In other words...about a .500 season.  Which could happen.

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