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  • I reckon we will be 6-10 or 8-8 this year and everyone will celebrate a comeback. 

    Errrrrm Well done.

    This franchise is going nowhere long term and you wanted passive aggressive from me well I guess you got it. 

    @londonbrown said:

    I reckon we will be 6-10 or 8-8 this year and everyone will celebrate a comeback. 

    Errrrrm Well done.

    This franchise is going nowhere long term and you wanted passive aggressive from me well I guess you got it. 

    3- 13  =/- 1 win.

  • I’m not entirely sure what move bruised OP’s puss.

    If you’re clamoring for the days acquiring future capital and never spending it, you’ve got a problem. 

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I’m not entirely sure what move bruised OP’s puss.

    If you’re clamoring for the days acquiring future capital and never spending it, you’ve got a problem. 

    This team wins one game over 2 seasons and people are complaining we made moves to trade mid-round draft picks to get to a respectable win/loss total. I honestly have no idea what in God's name people actually want anymore.

    Yeah, it's unlikely Tyrod Taylor is going to be a SB winning QB. But you mofos act like we've even won big this past decade, and get mad when a FO makes move to actually win. Unbelievable.

  • I don't get this stupid thread.. 

    Throwing away money and picks... 

    You'd rather them stand their with their coccks in their hands and do nothing?

  • @wargograw said:

    Sashi had a plan other than “throw red meat to the pitchfork-wielding villagers.” New FO doesn’t. 

    Well, you can't just keep kicking the can down the road forever either. It's why he's not here anymore. 

    @hoorta said:

    Well, you can't just keep kicking the can down the road forever either. It's why he's not here anymore. 

    Idiotic... a blind man can see that this year would have been more active in FA... not Dorsey active, but active.

    And the difference in activity level would have been in keeping with the now abandoned, organizational philosophy of developing young players rather than collecting cast offs from the rest of the league.

    Everything old is new again.

  • @mark-o said:

    Typically the threats are never followed through.  Some people just disappear and never return which would be more my style of doing it.

    When I came on here mudfly was a pretty big poster, and he just disappeared one day like a fart in the wind...

    Then there's Tour, who has made one post in the last month. 😕 COME BACK TOUR!

    @dutch-oven said:

    When I came on here mudfly was a pretty big poster, and he just disappeared one day like a fart in the wind...

    Then there's Tour, who has made one post in the last month. 😕 COME BACK TOUR!

    Be careful what you wish for... 😉

  • Overreacted. Apologies all  

    I still think we’re making bad moves though #65 for a one year bridge  QB being the worst of it. 

    The Browns have got Duke, Kirksey, Ogunjobi for instance at that spot or lower.  It’s a valuable pick. 

    @londonbrown said:

    Overreacted. Apologies all  

    I still think we’re making bad moves though #65 for a one year bridge  QB being the worst of it. 

    The Browns have got Duke, Kirksey, Ogunjobi for instance at that spot or lower.  It’s a valuable pick.

    Glad you stayed...

    One of these vet-loving folks need to explain exactly how many vet examples a locker room needs. Seems to me like it's always 2 to 5 guys.

    Offense we had Thomas and still have Bito and Zeitler. Defense has Collins and McCourty. May be we need 32 leaders? More?

  • @londonbrown said:

    Overreacted. Apologies all  

    I still think we’re making bad moves though #65 for a one year bridge  QB being the worst of it. 

    The Browns have got Duke, Kirksey, Ogunjobi for instance at that spot or lower.  It’s a valuable pick.

    Glad you stayed...

    One of these vet-loving folks need to explain exactly how many vet examples a locker room needs. Seems to me like it's always 2 to 5 guys.

    Offense we had Thomas and still have Bito and Zeitler. Defense has Collins and McCourty. May be we need 32 leaders? More?

    @tour2ma said:

    Glad you stayed...

    One of these vet-loving folks need to explain exactly how many vet examples a locker room needs. Seems to me like it's always 2 to 5 guys.

    Offense we had Thomas and still have Bito and Zeitler. Defense has Collins and McCourty. May be we need 32 leaders? More?

    Welcome back man. There’s a lot of short term thinking around for sure but it’s understandable after 1-31. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Glad you stayed...

    One of these vet-loving folks need to explain exactly how many vet examples a locker room needs. Seems to me like it's always 2 to 5 guys.

    Offense we had Thomas and still have Bito and Zeitler. Defense has Collins and McCourty. May be we need 32 leaders? More?

    Welcome back man. There’s a lot of short term thinking around for sure but it’s understandable after 1-31. 

    @londonbrown said:

    Welcome back man. There’s a lot of short term thinking around for sure but it’s understandable after 1-31. 

    WTF do you mean ? there is so much short term thinking ? 

  • @mark-o said:

    Exactly...

    My guess is that Tour will be back as time goes on.   Mud though has been gone a long time and I'm not sure he'll ever come back but hopefully he will.

    I spoke with Mud a few weeks ago. He'll be back eventually.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    I spoke with Mud a few weeks ago. He'll be back eventually.

    Great news...

    @jrb12711 said:

    This team wins one game over 2 seasons and people are complaining we made moves to trade mid-round draft picks to get to a respectable win/loss total. I honestly have no idea what in God's name people actually want anymore.

    Yeah, it's unlikely Tyrod Taylor is going to be a SB winning QB. But you mofos act like we've even won big this past decade, and get mad when a FO makes move to actually win. Unbelievable.

    Some of us have just never been cool with winning "some"... like we did from 2001 thru 2015.

    That said we are just seeing the beginning of the new plan unfolding. So far there's some to like... some to criticize. Maybe it'll make more sense when Fa is done and the Draft is over. But maybe it'll make less sense.

    And then comes the season...

  • sydS syd

    @londonbrown said:

    Welcome back man. There’s a lot of short term thinking around for sure but it’s understandable after 1-31. 

    WTF do you mean ? there is so much short term thinking ? 

    @syd said:

    WTF do you mean ? there is so much short term thinking ? 

    You should just be happy he accused you of thinking...

  • @syd said:

    WTF do you mean ? there is so much short term thinking ? 

    You should just be happy he accused you of thinking...

    @tour2ma said:

    You should just be happy he accused you of thinking...

    DOH I Believe i just got body slammed OUCH 

  • @canton-mike said:

    I spoke with Mud a few weeks ago. He'll be back eventually.

    Great news...

    @jrb12711 said:

    This team wins one game over 2 seasons and people are complaining we made moves to trade mid-round draft picks to get to a respectable win/loss total. I honestly have no idea what in God's name people actually want anymore.

    Yeah, it's unlikely Tyrod Taylor is going to be a SB winning QB. But you mofos act like we've even won big this past decade, and get mad when a FO makes move to actually win. Unbelievable.

    Some of us have just never been cool with winning "some"... like we did from 2001 thru 2015.

    That said we are just seeing the beginning of the new plan unfolding. So far there's some to like... some to criticize. Maybe it'll make more sense when Fa is done and the Draft is over. But maybe it'll make less sense.

    And then comes the season...

    @tour2ma said:

    Great news...

    Some of us have just never been cool with winning "some"... like we did from 2001 thru 2015.

    That said we are just seeing the beginning of the new plan unfolding. So far there's some to like... some to criticize. Maybe it'll make more sense when Fa is done and the Draft is over. But maybe it'll make less sense.

    And then comes the season...

    honestly i do not see anything not to like so far we have given up a third round pick (still have are top 5 picks) and we have 3 starters on offense 

  • @hoorta said:

    Well, you can't just keep kicking the can down the road forever either. It's why he's not here anymore. 

    Idiotic... a blind man can see that this year would have been more active in FA... not Dorsey active, but active.

    And the difference in activity level would have been in keeping with the now abandoned, organizational philosophy of developing young players rather than collecting cast offs from the rest of the league.

    Everything old is new again.

    @tour2ma said:

    Idiotic... a blind man can see that this year would have been more active in FA... not Dorsey active, but active.

    And the difference in activity level would have been in keeping with the now abandoned, organizational philosophy of developing young players rather than collecting cast offs from the rest of the league.

    Everything old is new again.

    Is that what it seems we are doing  Collecting castoffs?  I don't know....some, maybe.   I knew Dorsey wanted us to get a little more veteran presence.  NOt sure of the respective ages of the guys we picked up/traded for.    Anyone over 30?

  • @londonbrown said:

    Overreacted. Apologies all  

    I still think we’re making bad moves though #65 for a one year bridge  QB being the worst of it. 

    The Browns have got Duke, Kirksey, Ogunjobi for instance at that spot or lower.  It’s a valuable pick.

    Glad you stayed...

    One of these vet-loving folks need to explain exactly how many vet examples a locker room needs. Seems to me like it's always 2 to 5 guys.

    Offense we had Thomas and still have Bito and Zeitler. Defense has Collins and McCourty. May be we need 32 leaders? More?

    @tour2ma said:

    Glad you stayed...

    One of these vet-loving folks need to explain exactly how many vet examples a locker room needs. Seems to me like it's always 2 to 5 guys.

    Offense we had Thomas and still have Bito and Zeitler. Defense has Collins and McCourty. May be we need 32 leaders? More?

    McCourty no more.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Idiotic... a blind man can see that this year would have been more active in FA... not Dorsey active, but active.

    And the difference in activity level would have been in keeping with the now abandoned, organizational philosophy of developing young players rather than collecting cast offs from the rest of the league.

    Everything old is new again.

    Is that what it seems we are doing  Collecting castoffs?  I don't know....some, maybe.   I knew Dorsey wanted us to get a little more veteran presence.  NOt sure of the respective ages of the guys we picked up/traded for.    Anyone over 30?

    @the-gipper said:

    Is that what it seems we are doing  Collecting castoffs?  I don't know....some, maybe.   I knew Dorsey wanted us to get a little more veteran presence.  NOt sure of the respective ages of the guys we picked up/traded for.    Anyone over 30?

    Fells I think is 31.

  • @londonbrown said:

    Overreacted. Apologies all  

    I still think we’re making bad moves though #65 for a one year bridge  QB being the worst of it. 

    The Browns have got Duke, Kirksey, Ogunjobi for instance at that spot or lower.  It’s a valuable pick.

    Glad you stayed...

    One of these vet-loving folks need to explain exactly how many vet examples a locker room needs. Seems to me like it's always 2 to 5 guys.

    Offense we had Thomas and still have Bito and Zeitler. Defense has Collins and McCourty. May be we need 32 leaders? More?

    @tour2ma said:

    Glad you stayed...

    One of these vet-loving folks need to explain exactly how many vet examples a locker room needs. Seems to me like it's always 2 to 5 guys.

    Offense we had Thomas and still have Bito and Zeitler. Defense has Collins and McCourty. May be we need 32 leaders? More?

    I don't think it's leaders as much as it is "guys who have won games". As opposed to what we had over the last two years "guys who have won game."

  • @tour2ma said:

    Glad you stayed...

    One of these vet-loving folks need to explain exactly how many vet examples a locker room needs. Seems to me like it's always 2 to 5 guys.

    Offense we had Thomas and still have Bito and Zeitler. Defense has Collins and McCourty. May be we need 32 leaders? More?

    I don't think it's leaders as much as it is "guys who have won games". As opposed to what we had over the last two years "guys who have won game."

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    I don't think it's leaders as much as it is "guys who have won games". As opposed to what we had over the last two years "guys who have won game."

    Hence the short term thinking comment. Winning six games is worse than winning one. But people can’t handle that. 

  • @mr.-make-believe said:

    I don't think it's leaders as much as it is "guys who have won games". As opposed to what we had over the last two years "guys who have won game."

    Hence the short term thinking comment. Winning six games is worse than winning one. But people can’t handle that. 

    @londonbrown said:

    Hence the short term thinking comment. Winning six games is worse than winning one. But people can’t handle that. 

    so in your mind the F.O have shiit the bed,so tell me who would have you brought in

  • @mr.-make-believe said:

    I don't think it's leaders as much as it is "guys who have won games". As opposed to what we had over the last two years "guys who have won game."

    Hence the short term thinking comment. Winning six games is worse than winning one. But people can’t handle that. 

    @londonbrown said:

    Hence the short term thinking comment. Winning six games is worse than winning one. But people can’t handle that. 

    No matter what the situation, any team of any sport needs experience mixed with youth. I get that in in the past a lot of time and money has been wasted on mercenaries but this seems a different approach with dorsey. I'm very new to this sport so yes I'm a bit naive maybe but the TT deal for example....I just don't think we could have wished for anything better. In my eyes he's exactly what we need along with the #1 QB of choice. The likes of cousins and smith were never even considering the browns given where we're at at the mo. Yes i dont know a great deal about some of the other guys signed but they all have a level of game time/experience under their belts which will get us a few wins I'm sure. Then we can start looking at the next level of improvement and so on. 

    Maybe I haven't followed this team long enough for the negativity to have set in but things look a hell of a lot more positive for next season.....and we've got the draft to come yet, to trade all those picks away 😁

  • @hoorta said:

    Well, you can't just keep kicking the can down the road forever either. It's why he's not here anymore. 

    Idiotic... a blind man can see that this year would have been more active in FA... not Dorsey active, but active.

    And the difference in activity level would have been in keeping with the now abandoned, organizational philosophy of developing young players rather than collecting cast offs from the rest of the league.

    Everything old is new again.

    @tour2ma said:

    Idiotic... a blind man can see that this year would have been more active in FA... not Dorsey active, but active.

    And the difference in activity level would have been in keeping with the now abandoned, organizational philosophy of developing young players rather than collecting cast offs from the rest of the league.

    Everything old is new again.

    Tour, you honestly can't call Landry a "cast off". Cap Casualty. LOL, you want to call Suh a "cast off"?   Sure, he's too expensive and too old for our master plan... 🙂