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  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

    @bigalow80 said:

    how did the browns sheet the bed? FA needs both the player and FO to agree on contracts. Just because the browns have money doesn't mean 1) they should overpay for someone 2) that player x wants to play for the browns 3) the browns actually like the player as much as the media does 4) winning in FA doesn't mean winning on the field

    I think the browns have added talent, spent some money but haven't blown away all their money. They are adding pieces.

    Well said. At this time, Cleveland is hardly the most "destination of choice" in the NFL. Frankly, I'm impressed they were able to add the pieces they have. Great job by our FO.

    Mike

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    @canton-mike said:

    Well said. At this time, Cleveland is hardly the most "destination of choice" in the NFL. Frankly, I'm impressed they were able to add the pieces they have. Great job by our FO.

    Mike

    Starting to change the culture.  Adding the #1 and #4 and getting it right will help immensely.  They have a chance to completely revamp this team with the first 5 picks.  

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      Chud pick one Allen pick 4 penny 1st pick in the second 

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        Hyde was more dominant at Oho State than Barkley was at Penn St. As long as he stays healthy, with our O line, he'll be solid. 

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          @jiggins7919 said:

          If it's the Bills, I'd cry to move back THAT far.  I think that's been our downfall in recent years.  Trade back?  Sure, fine.  But trade back into the 20's?  Ehhhhh

          They are at #12 now after a trade with Cinci

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          @londonbrown said:

          They are at #12 now after a trade with Cinci

          Then I'm ALL over it!

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            @jiggins7919 said:

            If it's the Bills, I'd cry to move back THAT far.  I think that's been our downfall in recent years.  Trade back?  Sure, fine.  But trade back into the 20's?  Ehhhhh

            The Bills now have the #12 pick......so, how does that change your thinking?

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            jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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            @the-gipper said:

            The Bills now have the #12 pick......so, how does that change your thinking?

            It COMPLETELY changes my thinking!  I have no problem moving down to 12, BUT....I have to say that I'd much rather just pick at 4, and let the chips fall where they may.  Yes, it's great to keep having more and more picks each year, but I fear we're missing out on some of the "impact players" by moving down so often.  Corey Coleman is an excellent example.  I'd actually bet that we're moving on from him, and that would make he and Shelton two MORE first rounders that are no longer with us.  I just don't see why picking in the first round is SO HARD.  

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            • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

              @tiamat63 said:

              So I haven't been able to follow things as closely as id like over the past month or so...  what did I miss here?

              Mo was sent home from the combine because an issue was his heart was flagged at his medical at the combine. An irregular EKG. Was compared to Star Lotulelei's condition. It came out that the same issue was found at Michigan and they let him play. And if Michigan's hospital let it go, one of the best in the world, I think he'll be ok.

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              @mld-woody said:

              Mo was sent home from the combine because an issue was his heart was flagged at his medical at the combine. An irregular EKG. Was compared to Star Lotulelei's condition. It came out that the same issue was found at Michigan and they let him play. And if Michigan's hospital let it go, one of the best in the world, I think he'll be ok.

              The best cardio department in the world is here at the Cleveland Clinic.  If he really wants to check things out, he should go there.

              But, based on this factoid......this makes this guy only a 6th or 7th round risk.

              Don't need no Hank Gathers situation here.    (look him up if you don't know)

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                @mld-woody said:

                Mo was sent home from the combine because an issue was his heart was flagged at his medical at the combine. An irregular EKG. Was compared to Star Lotulelei's condition. It came out that the same issue was found at Michigan and they let him play. And if Michigan's hospital let it go, one of the best in the world, I think he'll be ok.

                The best cardio department in the world is here at the Cleveland Clinic.  If he really wants to check things out, he should go there.

                But, based on this factoid......this makes this guy only a 6th or 7th round risk.

                Don't need no Hank Gathers situation here.    (look him up if you don't know)

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                @the-gipper said:

                The best cardio department in the world is here at the Cleveland Clinic.  If he really wants to check things out, he should go there.

                But, based on this factoid......this makes this guy only a 6th or 7th round risk.

                Don't need no Hank Gathers situation here.    (look him up if you don't know)

                I was waiting for you to respond to that and tell me about some Mac school in Ohio that's just as good, lol

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                  @the-gipper said:

                  The best cardio department in the world is here at the Cleveland Clinic.  If he really wants to check things out, he should go there.

                  But, based on this factoid......this makes this guy only a 6th or 7th round risk.

                  Don't need no Hank Gathers situation here.    (look him up if you don't know)

                  I was waiting for you to respond to that and tell me about some Mac school in Ohio that's just as good, lol

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                  @mld-woody said:

                  I was waiting for you to respond to that and tell me about some Mac school in Ohio that's just as good, lol

                  MAC School?  No.... It would be President's Athletic Conference.  Hospital affiliated with Case Western Reserve Univ.

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    So....Cleveland Clinic #1.   (the most recent procedure I had....not heart....just routine colonoscopy done at Cleveland Clinic branch)

                    Cornell...where my son goes near the top

                    Mayo Clinic...associated with Univ. of Minn. ...where he used to work. 

                    Johns Hopkins...where my nephew works....up there too.

                    Where are you living now?  Would you go to Michigan if you had something. 

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                      @osiris said:

                      We have a completely different front office now, so I wouldn't expect the #1 pick to be traded. That #4 pick is going to be nearly as valuable as the #1 pick because it is likely their will be a run on QBs, leaving just 1 top-tier QB of the 4 when pick 4 rolls around.  Possible teams that would want to pick a QB: Dolphins at 11, Redskins at 13, Cardinals at 15, Chargers at 17,  Bills at 21. If it's the Bills, they will have to give a boatload up to the Browns to move up that high.

                      If it's the Bills, I'd cry to move back THAT far.  I think that's been our downfall in recent years.  Trade back?  Sure, fine.  But trade back into the 20's?  Ehhhhh

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                      OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                      @jiggins7919 said:

                      If it's the Bills, I'd cry to move back THAT far.  I think that's been our downfall in recent years.  Trade back?  Sure, fine.  But trade back into the 20's?  Ehhhhh

                      Apparently I missed the news that the Bills are picking at 12 now due to a trade with Cincinnati. Trading back to 12 not nearly as bad. With most recent FA moves, I really think it is QB at 1 and with Fitzpatrick, Chubb, or trade down at 4 to pick up another DB.

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        oh geez... here we go

                        I'm making a distinction between a university's hospital and "associated with" by the way. The Clinic is the best. US News has Michigan's hospital 10. Not bad. Point being, if they didn't think it was an issue. Probably fine.

                        Was making a joke about the ridiculous Ohio-centric rating type comments you've made before.

                        Not worth trying to go through that  again...

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                          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                          As exciting is hospital talk is...

                          Can someone please explain to me how exactly Carlos Hyde is a superior RB over Crowell?

                          If anything, it's a wash with Hyde being an ex-Buckeye who is over two years older than Crowell... 

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                            As exciting is hospital talk is...

                            Can someone please explain to me how exactly Carlos Hyde is a superior RB over Crowell?

                            If anything, it's a wash with Hyde being an ex-Buckeye who is over two years older than Crowell... 

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                            @dutch-oven said:

                            As exciting is hospital talk is...

                            Can someone please explain to me how exactly Carlos Hyde is a superior RB over Crowell?

                            If anything, it's a wash with Hyde being an ex-Buckeye who is over two years older than Crowell... 

                            He doesn't get tackled by the yard lines or the turf monster nearly as often as Crow. 

                            And Crow is gone now...so he sucks and Hyde is here so he's awesome.

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              Crow had his moments, and was solid at worst. Hyde is at least as good as Crow. Except Hyde actually want to be here.

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                                Crow had his moments, and was solid at worst. Hyde is at least as good as Crow. Except Hyde actually want to be here.

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                                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                @mld-woody said:

                                Crow had his moments, and was solid at worst. Hyde is at least as good as Crow. Except Hyde actually want to be here.

                                Until Hue relegates him to a handful of carries even during games that are close... 😆

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                                  As exciting is hospital talk is...

                                  Can someone please explain to me how exactly Carlos Hyde is a superior RB over Crowell?

                                  If anything, it's a wash with Hyde being an ex-Buckeye who is over two years older than Crowell... 

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                                  mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @dutch-oven said:

                                  As exciting is hospital talk is...

                                  Can someone please explain to me how exactly Carlos Hyde is a superior RB over Crowell?

                                  If anything, it's a wash with Hyde being an ex-Buckeye who is over two years older than Crowell... 

                                  You mean hospital talk isn't interesting?  😆

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    As exciting is hospital talk is...

                                    Can someone please explain to me how exactly Carlos Hyde is a superior RB over Crowell?

                                    If anything, it's a wash with Hyde being an ex-Buckeye who is over two years older than Crowell... 

                                    You mean hospital talk isn't interesting?  😆

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                                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                    @mjp28 said:

                                    You mean hospital talk isn't interesting?  😆

                                    I mean, I liked St. Elsewhere and Scrubs... 😆 

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                                      oh geez... here we go

                                      I'm making a distinction between a university's hospital and "associated with" by the way. The Clinic is the best. US News has Michigan's hospital 10. Not bad. Point being, if they didn't think it was an issue. Probably fine.

                                      Was making a joke about the ridiculous Ohio-centric rating type comments you've made before.

                                      Not worth trying to go through that  again...

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      oh geez... here we go

                                      I'm making a distinction between a university's hospital and "associated with" by the way. The Clinic is the best. US News has Michigan's hospital 10. Not bad. Point being, if they didn't think it was an issue. Probably fine.

                                      Was making a joke about the ridiculous Ohio-centric rating type comments you've made before.

                                      Not worth trying to go through that  again...

                                      Sure it is worth it....because you always go there again.  And I can always separate your wings from you.  I am the spider and you are the fly in my web.

                                      Besides....Cornell is not in Ohio.....Johns Hopkins is not in Ohio......  But these are esoteric to my family. 

                                      Point is.....Michigan U is again second rate compared to things/places in Ohio....and things/place I am associated with.  

                                      Sorry you can't handle it.....but it is high time you acknowledged the second rate status of matters associated with Michigan.

                                      And we are not even talking football teams.   There is no reason to do that really.   No one would have an argument there. Not even you. 

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                                        @mjp28 said:

                                        You mean hospital talk isn't interesting?  😆

                                        I mean, I liked St. Elsewhere and Scrubs... 😆 

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                                        mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @dutch-oven said:

                                        I mean, I liked St. Elsewhere and Scrubs... 😆 

                                        Oh fake hospital talk......but most nurses I know like them, oh yeah the nurses. 😍   (hey I married one)

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                                          As exciting is hospital talk is...

                                          Can someone please explain to me how exactly Carlos Hyde is a superior RB over Crowell?

                                          If anything, it's a wash with Hyde being an ex-Buckeye who is over two years older than Crowell... 

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                                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                          @dutch-oven said:

                                          As exciting is hospital talk is...

                                          Can someone please explain to me how exactly Carlos Hyde is a superior RB over Crowell?

                                          If anything, it's a wash with Hyde being an ex-Buckeye who is over two years older than Crowell... 

                                          I think it's a little better than a wash... not much better, but a little.

                                          Carlos has better vision and is a battering ram in GL situations.

                                          Crow's superior asset was his acceleration.

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