Baker Mayfield
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Clearly our FO don’t care about his height after the Taylor trade.
Taylor will be the starter but one thing we know is that he gets hurt so the rookie we do draft is going to play at some point.
Could it be Baker?
Clearly our FO don’t care about his height after the Taylor trade.
Taylor will be the starter but one thing we know is that he gets hurt so the rookie we do draft is going to play at some point.
Could it be Baker?
I think it very well could be... and I think he will be there at #4.
That said, if Dorsey & Co are sold on Baker, they need to take him at #1. You don't eff around when it comes to landing your next QB.
A few thoughts:
1. Who are the 2019 quarterback prospects, too early to guess on that?
2. A fair chance that the BROWNS will not be picking #1 maybe even 2, 3 who knows top 5 in 2019?
3. The loss of Kizer, even though some despised his play, did change the BROWNS quarterback succession plan. Maybe #4? R2? Build up maybe three candidates going forward.
Enquiring minds want to know!
The 2019 QB Class is not very sexy. I do really like one of its members tho... MSU's Nick Fitzgerald.
There are a couple decent prospects in the 2020 class that might well exit in 2019 including Oregon's Justin Herbert.
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Why would you draft a QB that has the exact same skill set (and lack of) that you just traded for?
Why would you draft a QB that has the exact same skill set (and lack of) that you just traded for?
For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor.
It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.
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Why would you draft a QB that has the exact same skill set (and lack of) that you just traded for?
For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor.
It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.
WTF is "billy goat day"?
For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor.
It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.
Not to mention the on-field mentorship that's lent by the similar styles...
Mayfield is one, but so is Darnold... who, Lord help us, I think is the one Dorsey's heart is set upon.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
WTF is "billy goat day"?
For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor.
It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.
Not to mention the on-field mentorship that's lent by the similar styles...
Mayfield is one, but so is Darnold... who, Lord help us, I think is the one Dorsey's heart is set upon.
WTF is "billy goat day"?
spring your decoder ring forward 1 hour
there once was this GOAT that played QB at or with the A&M Aggies of Texas..Such lad was under so much stress he failed his secret double probation that he/she even bought a wig & went to Vegas under Code Name "Billy" at bar for a few drinks..I honored this kids white Jersey a few years ago today by dyeing it Green for beers poured on it today
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Why would you draft a QB that has the exact same skill set (and lack of) that you just traded for?
For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor.
It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.
For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor.
It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.
Please, Jesus... not him.
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Why would you draft a QB that has the exact same skill set (and lack of) that you just traded for?
For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor.
It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.
For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor.
It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.
And how did you answer your own question?
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Baker Mayfield is from the Big 12, but he was the QB that beat Ohio State's top tier defense. In the loss against Georgia, he still threw for 287 yards and 2 TD to 1 interception. He has done very well against the competition he was given in college
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/baker-mayfield-1/gamelog/
while you can say that for all of the top-ranked QBs, a big reason why I like Baker Mayfield the best is he doesn't have any one "obvious" red flag besides his height. With Darnold (who I think the Browns will pick) the major issue I have with him is the amount of fumbles he has lost/long windup, and with Rosen it's the injury history/the fact he does not want to be here. Cleveland QBs get hit a lot and I don't know if Rosen will survive if he is drafted here.
Of course, my opinion doesn't mean anything and the Browns will do what the Browns do. Can't' wait until actual football season starts again.
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For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor.
It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.
And how did you answer your own question?
And how did you answer your own question?
I didn’t, but l think we’ve narrowed it down a bit. Either by design or circumstances the Browns seem to have landed a QB in Taylor who can pass a bit and run a bit. It’s now the second such instance we’ve seen since Kizer was in a similar mold, but he just didn’t seem to pass well. Third if you count the Manziel experiment.
So l’m just trying to identify a trend.
I think it rules out a guy like Rosen, known more as a pocket guy.
So far l’ve heard Mayfield and Darnold.
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Baker > all other QB's, with the exception of Josh Allen potentially having more upside.
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WTF is "billy goat day"?
For the sake of continuity. So that you can keep the playbook the same with expectations that the next guy will execute the plays with a similar degree of acumen as his predecessor.
It just occurred to me to ask what top tier QB in this draft has a similar playing style to Taylor, who seems to have a sort of hustle and flow about his playing style from the clips l’ve seen.
Not to mention the on-field mentorship that's lent by the similar styles...
Mayfield is one, but so is Darnold... who, Lord help us, I think is the one Dorsey's heart is set upon.
WTF is "billy goat day"?
Not to mention the on-field mentorship that's lent by the similar styles...
Mayfield is one, but so is Darnold... who, Lord help us, I think is the one Dorsey's heart is set upon.
LOL, I had pushed Billy "GOAT" Manziel Vegas escapade out of my memory.
I'm actually fine with either QB Tour, though I still have Mayfield as a slight favorite. The guys saying "all the top QB prospects have the same talent level" are missing the point. To me, it's like being a kid in a candy store or ice cream shop, what flavor do you like best? Vanilla, chocolate, or strawberry? I hate mint so don't sell me that mint chocolate chip Allen or Jackson though.
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I recommend folks go through and watch this to see how many times Mayfield is either A) Passing to his first read or B. It is a predetermined RB pass.
The few times that the first read isn't open (very few; hats off the Oklahoma's OC and the talent around Mayfield), Mayfield scrambles or takes a sack. -
I recommend folks go through and watch this to see how many times Mayfield is either A) Passing to his first read or B. It is a predetermined RB pass.
The few times that the first read isn't open (very few; hats off the Oklahoma's OC and the talent around Mayfield), Mayfield scrambles or takes a sack.And your point is? Is that good or bad? Sounds like you are saying that he is poor in going through his progressions (at least in this game...which was a very good game for him).
In comparison to Barkley and Darnold......Mayfield killed it vs. OSU...... Where OSU killed those other guys.
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I recommend folks go through and watch this to see how many times Mayfield is either A) Passing to his first read or B. It is a predetermined RB pass.
The few times that the first read isn't open (very few; hats off the Oklahoma's OC and the talent around Mayfield), Mayfield scrambles or takes a sack.And your point is? Is that good or bad? Sounds like you are saying that he is poor in going through his progressions (at least in this game...which was a very good game for him).
In comparison to Barkley and Darnold......Mayfield killed it vs. OSU...... Where OSU killed those other guys.
I recommend folks go through and watch this to see how many times Mayfield is either A) Passing to his first read or B. It is a predetermined RB pass.
The few times that the first read isn't open (very few; hats off the Oklahoma's OC and the talent around Mayfield), Mayfield scrambles or takes a sack.And your point is? Is that good or bad? Sounds like you are saying that he is poor in going through his progressions (at least in this game...which was a very good game for him).
In comparison to Barkley and Darnold......Mayfield killed it vs. OSU...... Where OSU killed those other guys.
I am saying that I am not seeing him going through progressions rarely if at all. He is throwing to wide open guys on first reads. It would be more of an endorsement of Mayfield's supporting cast than Mayfield himself. It would also explain the inflated numbers.
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I recommend folks go through and watch this to see how many times Mayfield is either A) Passing to his first read or B. It is a predetermined RB pass.
The few times that the first read isn't open (very few; hats off the Oklahoma's OC and the talent around Mayfield), Mayfield scrambles or takes a sack.And your point is? Is that good or bad? Sounds like you are saying that he is poor in going through his progressions (at least in this game...which was a very good game for him).
In comparison to Barkley and Darnold......Mayfield killed it vs. OSU...... Where OSU killed those other guys.
I am saying that I am not seeing him going through progressions rarely if at all. He is throwing to wide open guys on first reads. It would be more of an endorsement of Mayfield's supporting cast than Mayfield himself. It would also explain the inflated numbers.
I am saying that I am not seeing him going through progressions rarely if at all. He is throwing to wide open guys on first reads. It would be more of an endorsement of Mayfield's supporting cast than Mayfield himself. It would also explain the inflated numbers.
Point is————- Mayfield BLOWS
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Baker Mayfield is from the Big 12, but he was the QB that beat Ohio State's top tier defense. In the loss against Georgia, he still threw for 287 yards and 2 TD to 1 interception. He has done very well against the competition he was given in college
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/baker-mayfield-1/gamelog/
while you can say that for all of the top-ranked QBs, a big reason why I like Baker Mayfield the best is he doesn't have any one "obvious" red flag besides his height. With Darnold (who I think the Browns will pick) the major issue I have with him is the amount of fumbles he has lost/long windup, and with Rosen it's the injury history/the fact he does not want to be here. Cleveland QBs get hit a lot and I don't know if Rosen will survive if he is drafted here.
Of course, my opinion doesn't mean anything and the Browns will do what the Browns do. Can't' wait until actual football season starts again.
... he doesn't have any one "obvious" red flag besides his height.
Of course that's a sizeable shortcoming to so readily dismiss.
I recommend folks go through and watch this to see how many times Mayfield is either A) Passing to his first read or B. It is a predetermined RB pass.
The few times that the first read isn't open (very few; hats off the Oklahoma's OC and the talent around Mayfield), Mayfield scrambles or takes a sack.But that's the Offense... my only add to your description is the number of times he locks onto his primary until he clears before he goes into scramble mode.
If he were making the pre-snap read to get to the right target, then I'd have less apprehension, but OU is one of the new breed, "everyone-on-offense-look-to-the-sideline-to-see-what-oversized-posterbaords-are-being-held-up-to tell-us-what-to-do" Offenses that are killing the college game's value as a "QB developmental league".
Still... despite all that... he settled in as my 2nd choice... a distant 2nd choice, but a 2nd choice nonetheless.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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