Exactly when did "everyone" here climb onto the Chubb train? And why?
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I personally think Chubb mania is a result of Sportscenter and biology.
You fall asleep watching draft coverage on ESPN. You hear the same 5 names, Chubb being among them.
Then you wake up with a chubb and see it as a cosmic sign.
Nobody wakes up with a Fitzpatrick. Or if you do, you see it as a much less positive omen.
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He's a disruptive force. They're tossing his name around with Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa.
In his three years as a starter at N.C. State, Chubb has racked up 192 tackles, 53.5 tackles for loss, 25 sacks, and six forced fumbles.
To put it in perspective, Joey Bosa played a single game more than Chubb and had 44 fewer tackles, 2.5 fewer tackles for loss, one more sack, and one less forced fumble.
In his three years as a starter at N.C. State, Chubb has racked up 192 tackles, 53.5 tackles for loss, 25 sacks, and six forced fumbles.
To put it in perspective, Joey Bosa played a single game more than Chubb and had 44 fewer tackles, 2.5 fewer tackles for loss, one more sack, and one less forced fumble.
https://www.fanragsports.com/nfl-draft/bradley-chubb-cream-of-crop-in-2018-nfl-draft-edge-class/
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No thanks on Chubb. Isn't elite in the way Garrett is. Just over hyped
Bosa didn't have amazing combine numbers like Garrett, but he's already one of the most dominant in the game. If Chubb is anything like Bosa or Mack, that's a line to get any QB nervous.
They said the same thing about Bosa... "He's maxed out his technique... not fast enough to win consistently at the next level....production fell his last season" All complete bs. He's dominated from game one.
We got about zero pressure on opposing QB's last season when Garrett wasn't in the game. They had all day to throw the ball.
"overhyped" is your avatar
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In his three years as a starter at N.C. State, Chubb has racked up 192 tackles, 53.5 tackles for loss, 25 sacks, and six forced fumbles.
To put it in perspective, Joey Bosa played a single game more than Chubb and had 44 fewer tackles, 2.5 fewer tackles for loss, one more sack, and one less forced fumble.
https://www.fanragsports.com/nfl-draft/bradley-chubb-cream-of-crop-in-2018-nfl-draft-edge-class/
https://www.fanragsports.com/nfl-draft/bradley-chubb-cream-of-crop-in-2018-nfl-draft-edge-class/
He killed FSU's QB in the highlights I saw. I was almost more impressed the QB got up after some of those hits than the hits themselves.
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Today's NFL is Pass & Rush the Passer.
If he's the best pass rusher in the draft then at 4 pair him with Myles...as Myles could use the help. (ability to rush the passer is huge for a team)
The 'Pass' part is more than just the QB...but it certainly STARTS with the QB. (pick #1) There needs to be receivers that know how to run routes and get separation. (and catch the damn ball) You have to be able to block people to give TIME to pass and room for your RB's to help out the offense.
Best QB in the draft at #1 and best Pass Rusher in the draft at #4. Wow. The 2 most critical parts of the game...in 45 minutes.
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My problem is that there are lots of very good to elite RB's in this draft. Probably not to the level of Saquon but guys who are pro-bowlers. There are not that with the edge rushers and Chubb is very good at just about everything. He's the top player at that position. The options with moving him, Garrett, Ogbah all over the line is fun to think about. Also, Fitzpatrick is a stud, but there are also very good cover corners in this draft that could be had in the late first/early second. Minkah is very versatile which is what his greatest appeal is.
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This... I guess where I take this is that Chubb's ceiling is about where MG's floor is. Chubb has maxxed out his ability so his production can only decline at the next level, whereas MG still has layers to add.
Let's compare to Bosa, who I admit I did not see coming.
- Height, weight, strength are a push.
- Chubb has a decent advantage in speed and burst.
- Bosa blows Chubb away is in agility.
Again I think we have different players. I think it is Bosa's agility edge that gives him the opportunity to succeed with 2ndary moves.
Still not seeing a #4 overall...
That stuff is important but technique and hand placement things like that are very similar between the two, and that's what made bosa so good. You may not have seen it coming but watching his hand fighting his inside move his technique is what made me sure he was going to be a great a de and I see the same thing with chubb. Not the most athletic like bosa isn't but both better than average and they more than make up for the gap with technique.
Agree on the RBs and even on Minkah, but if we aren't sure whether we need a FS or a CB... and we aren't... then Minkah becomes a very attractive pick if you are trapped at #4.
(Chubb is) Not the most athletic like bosa isn't but both better than average and they more than make up for the gap with technique.
I grant you he has the tech... but so do a lot more OTs at the next level. It's why I say Chubb may be as good as he'll ever be.
Where we differ is when you say "like Bosa". Chubb is "not the most athletic" in ways that are different than how Bosa is "not the most athletic". That makes me question whether Bosa's success at the next level translates to Chubb.
Again... I am not seeing bad or bust or anything of the sort... I'm just not seeing great. And at #4 any player you take needs to be great. And that's not just my view of Chubb.
Someone offers me a handful of picks for the #4 including one in or near the top ten... I'm outta there. Realistically ask yourself what kind of offer it'd take you to give up Chubb at #4.
I sat in this slosh fest in 2016...
That was his 3-sack game. McGlinchey is not exactly a stern test now let alone in 2016...
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Don't overthink it.
The reason that people may be jumping on the Chubb bandwagon is simply the fact that they are dreaming of having two stud DEs starting in the DL....and hopefully reeking havoc on the opposing QBs.
Now...if some of you do not think he is all that and a bag of chips...so be it. But he IS almost universally rated in like the TOP 3 or Top 5 prospects in this entire draft. Not that a guy thought to be top 5 prospect cannot be a bust....or be mediocre relative to his draft position. Its just that there is that dream there of the Browns having their version of the Doomsday Defense/Purple People Eaters/Fearsome Foursome etc.
By the way....when is the last time a defensive line got one of those really cool nicknames?
I came up with GOONS for Garrett, Ogbah, Ogunobi, Nassib, Shelton. But Shelton is gone. So, what could it be?
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lol... Be ye a Chubb fan or not you need to see this and stick all the way thru it to the end...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Plus this...
Ryan HannableVerified account @RyanHannable
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@TonyPauline, Bill Belichick told a number of people at NC State's pro day today how impressed he was by DE Bradley Chubb.12:27 PM - 19 Mar 2018"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
lol... Be ye a Chubb fan or not you need to see this and stick all the way thru it to the end...
lol... Be ye a Chubb fan or not you need to see this and stick all the way thru it to the end...
That is great that BB is helping the guy out. BB hasn't a Khunt hair's chance in hell of drafting him.
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Plus this...
Ryan HannableVerified account @RyanHannable
According to
@TonyPauline, Bill Belichick told a number of people at NC State's pro day today how impressed he was by DE Bradley Chubb.12:27 PM - 19 Mar 2018Plus this...
Ryan HannableVerified account @RyanHannable
According to
@TonyPauline, Bill Belichick told a number of people at NC State's pro day today how impressed he was by DE Bradley Chubb.12:27 PM - 19 Mar 2018Who was there for the Browns?
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Plus this...
Ryan HannableVerified account @RyanHannable
According to
@TonyPauline, Bill Belichick told a number of people at NC State's pro day today how impressed he was by DE Bradley Chubb.12:27 PM - 19 Mar 2018Plus this...
Ryan HannableVerified account @RyanHannable
According to
@TonyPauline, Bill Belichick told a number of people at NC State's pro day today how impressed he was by DE Bradley Chubb.12:27 PM - 19 Mar 2018You starting to get on the Chubb train Tour?
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I like Chubb’s hands, strength and motor. He’s relentless, doesn’t move backwards and has that killer instict I like to see in d lineman. The fact that he plays a premium position and adds a lot of flexibility and depth to a very important position is why he’s my pick at 4. If the Browns get a good package to move down, so be it, but if they’re picking at 4, I don’t see anyone better than Chubb.
Itd be nice to play Denver against buffalo and move down to 5, pick up an extra pick or 2 and still get Bradley Chubb.
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I like Chubb’s hands, strength and motor. He’s relentless, doesn’t move backwards and has that killer instict I like to see in d lineman. The fact that he plays a premium position and adds a lot of flexibility and depth to a very important position is why he’s my pick at 4. If the Browns get a good package to move down, so be it, but if they’re picking at 4, I don’t see anyone better than Chubb.
Itd be nice to play Denver against buffalo and move down to 5, pick up an extra pick or 2 and still get Bradley Chubb.
Itd be nice to play Denver against buffalo and move down to 5, pick up an extra pick or 2 and still get Bradley Chubb.
You're evil. - But I like it.
Draft value chart shows only 100 points value to move from 5 to 4. That would be their pick #99. Maybe we could wrangle their 71st pick but I highly doubt we get their pick #40.
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Itd be nice to play Denver against buffalo and move down to 5, pick up an extra pick or 2 and still get Bradley Chubb.
You're evil. - But I like it.
Draft value chart shows only 100 points value to move from 5 to 4. That would be their pick #99. Maybe we could wrangle their 71st pick but I highly doubt we get their pick #40.
You're evil. - But I like it.
Draft value chart shows only 100 points value to move from 5 to 4. That would be their pick #99. Maybe we could wrangle their 71st pick but I highly doubt we get their pick #40.
Quarterback premium.
Based on the draft value chart the Colts should only have had to give up this years second and third to move up from #6 to #3. It cost them two seconds and a future second.
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Plus this...
Ryan HannableVerified account @RyanHannable
According to
@TonyPauline, Bill Belichick told a number of people at NC State's pro day today how impressed he was by DE Bradley Chubb.12:27 PM - 19 Mar 2018You starting to get on the Chubb train Tour?
Agree... Denver would have to defend the pick from BUF so it would cost them at least their second because you know BUF will throw the kitchen sink, two #1's and at least a #2 at us.
Then the decision becomes do we like Chubb (or Barkley or Minkah) enough to pass up the added haul BUF would pony up.
Of course all this is predicated upon Denver and at least one more team wanting the last QB(s) standing at #4. Really makes me hope that NYG does go Barky at #3 (sorry, Po).
You starting to get on the Chubb train Tour?
Not really...
While I won't kick the dog if we take Chubb at #4 (unless I find out later we passed on a big deal with BUF). I'd like him or any other prospect better at #5 with Denver's 2nd and change in our pocket.
But primarily I'm still about trading down the #4 with BUF to see if I can land Ward at #12 and Vander Esch at #22.
BTW... I do not own a dog.
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He can go blow himself for all I care. He would be yet another monumental waste of a first-round draft pick. THe Browns have no skilled players. That is why they went 0 - 16. Chubb, like the homosexual Zumba poosy we drafted last year, will make no difference in the Browns w-l ratio. but then again, we really don't give a schidt about wins, do we?
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