Rosen
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He's the best qb in this draft. It gets clearer every week. The concussions are the only potential concern. Leadership? He won the job right out of high school onto a top 15 team. You think he couldn't get them to buy in? You think they didn't like him at qb? That they didn't respect him cuz he's some jerkoff brat? Crazy talk.
All the character and personality issues seem to be pre combine and pre pro day.
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While I agree that Rosen is the best QB mechanics-wise and I think he is ready for the pros, the reason why I would not draft him #1 overall is the injury history. We have all seen how Kessler played before vs. after his concussion. The best passer in the draft will not help the Browns much if he's stuck on the bench, and we all know whoever the Browns QB is will be getting hit a lot. Would hate to give him the "Tim Couch" treatment and ruin his career. Whoever the Browns choose, it's nice that they can sit behind Tyrod without getting thrown in right away like Kizer was. Maybe, just maybe, this is the year the Browns turn it all around.
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Personally, I'd have rosenbum tied with Lamar Jackson at five
We all are well aware of your personal feelings on Rosen.
Your butthurt over his stance on your Orange Overload is why you are posting about him at 1am on a Monday night.
People with obvious maturity issues tend to have personal feelings that linger on and on.
We all are well aware of your personal feelings on Rosen.
Your butthurt over his stance on your Orange Overload is why you are posting about him at 1am on a Monday night.
People with obvious maturity issues tend to have personal feelings that linger on and on.
I don't think that is why Cal does not like Rosen. I think it is something else.
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We all are well aware of your personal feelings on Rosen.
Your butthurt over his stance on your Orange Overload is why you are posting about him at 1am on a Monday night.
People with obvious maturity issues tend to have personal feelings that linger on and on.
I don't think that is why Cal does not like Rosen. I think it is something else.
I don't think that is why Cal does not like Rosen. I think it is something else.
Nah, its that. Notice the "bum" and slew of other little suffixes he adds to the names of people he hates?
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has nothing to do with politics. Fake news. I had rosenbum off my list well before I read about the
political thing. It is what it is. What is this about rosenbum being Jewish??? and why would that matter?
has nothing to do with politics. Fake news. I had rosenbum off my list well before I read about the
political thing. It is what it is. What is this about rosenbum being Jewish??? and why would that matter?
Because of your constant rhetoric Cal....people believe that you are among or sympathetic to this crowd:
Hopefully, you will completely repudiate this perception of you....but that perception exists.
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has nothing to do with politics. Fake news. I had rosenbum off my list well before I read about the
political thing. It is what it is. What is this about rosenbum being Jewish??? and why would that matter?
Because of your constant rhetoric Cal....people believe that you are among or sympathetic to this crowd:
Hopefully, you will completely repudiate this perception of you....but that perception exists.
Because of your constant rhetoric Cal....people believe that you are among or sympathetic to this crowd:
Hopefully, you will completely repudiate this perception of you....but that perception exists.
Gip you're an idiot.
WSS
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It's almost like Rosen comes from a wealthy family that could afford all of the QB coaching they could possibly give him...
It's almost like Rosen comes from a wealthy family that could afford all of the QB coaching they could possibly give him...
I think the question about the character might possibly have to do something with that. If you've been Rich all your life and just athletically gifted you be less dedicated to succeed in sports.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
has nothing to do with politics. Fake news. I had rosenbum off my list well before I read about the
political thing. It is what it is. What is this about rosenbum being Jewish??? and why would that matter?
Because of your constant rhetoric Cal....people believe that you are among or sympathetic to this crowd:
Hopefully, you will completely repudiate this perception of you....but that perception exists.
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has nothing to do with politics. Fake news. I had rosenbum off my list well before I read about the
political thing. It is what it is. What is this about rosenbum being Jewish??? and why would that matter?
Because of your constant rhetoric Cal....people believe that you are among or sympathetic to this crowd:
Hopefully, you will completely repudiate this perception of you....but that perception exists.
oh. NOW Rosen is BLACK and that is why I don't have him on my list of draftable qb's if I were drafting?
Stop being a moron. Wait, let me guess that he is also fakely adopting being Pocahontas, too? Some of you keep bringing up politics because you love rosen's politics. That is pretty sad. It's a football forum. Stop wetting your pants about the other forum, Gip.
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It's almost like Rosen comes from a wealthy family that could afford all of the QB coaching they could possibly give him...
I think the question about the character might possibly have to do something with that. If you've been Rich all your life and just athletically gifted you be less dedicated to succeed in sports.
WSS
I think the question about the character might possibly have to do something with that.
Those questions are 100% unfounded gossip
Keep doubling down on those lies while ignoring fact! Nothing's more fun than making snap judgements and repeating your pie-in-the-sky conclusion louder when called out! Never address reality, you're making your own! Nobody would ever say things like that about you - all gossip is real!
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Because of your constant rhetoric Cal....people believe that you are among or sympathetic to this crowd:
Hopefully, you will completely repudiate this perception of you....but that perception exists.
Gip you're an idiot.
WSS
Gip you're an idiot.
WSS
But I am absolutely right about this perception.
Nevertheless....Cal can certainly disavow it...and hopefully resolve it.
Having met him, I would think, and hope not.
Sorry that I had to be the one to have the courage to bring it to the surface.
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I think the question about the character might possibly have to do something with that.
Those questions are 100% unfounded gossip
Keep doubling down on those lies while ignoring fact! Nothing's more fun than making snap judgements and repeating your pie-in-the-sky conclusion louder when called out! Never address reality, you're making your own! Nobody would ever say things like that about you - all gossip is real!
Those questions are 100% unfounded gossip
Keep doubling down on those lies while ignoring fact! Nothing's more fun than making snap judgements and repeating your pie-in-the-sky conclusion louder when called out! Never address reality, you're making your own! Nobody would ever say things like that about you - all gossip is real!
Trust me man, the vast majority of us know this to be true. You're just wasting your time with the Cals of the world though. He'll just resort back to the same 3 articles from several months ago and hang onto em for dear life.
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I think the question about the character might possibly have to do something with that.
Those questions are 100% unfounded gossip
Keep doubling down on those lies while ignoring fact! Nothing's more fun than making snap judgements and repeating your pie-in-the-sky conclusion louder when called out! Never address reality, you're making your own! Nobody would ever say things like that about you - all gossip is real!
Those questions are 100% unfounded gossip
Keep doubling down on those lies while ignoring fact! Nothing's more fun than making snap judgements and repeating your pie-in-the-sky conclusion louder when called out! Never address reality, you're making your own! Nobody would ever say things like that about you - all gossip is real!
I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility to say that someone who is already set financially and with more life options available to him may have less need of whatever Sports can bring him might be less dedicated to that sport. I did use the word might which should have assuaged little of your whining at least.
WSS
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has nothing to do with politics. Fake news. I had rosenbum off my list well before I read about the
political thing. It is what it is. What is this about rosenbum being Jewish??? and why would that matter?
Because of your constant rhetoric Cal....people believe that you are among or sympathetic to this crowd:
Hopefully, you will completely repudiate this perception of you....but that perception exists.
oh. NOW Rosen is BLACK and that is why I don't have him on my list of draftable qb's if I were drafting?
Stop being a moron. Wait, let me guess that he is also fakely adopting being Pocahontas, too? Some of you keep bringing up politics because you love rosen's politics. That is pretty sad. It's a football forum. Stop wetting your pants about the other forum, Gip.
oh. NOW Rosen is BLACK and that is why I don't have him on my list of draftable qb's if I were drafting?
Uh...no...Rosen is Jewish.....the video was the anti-Jewish rally.
Stop being a moron. Wait, let me guess that he is also fakely adopting being Pocahontas, too? Some of you keep bringing up politics because you love rosen's politics. That is pretty sad. It's a football forum. Stop wetting your pants about the other forum, Gip.
I don't give a shite about Rosen's politics, nor about the other forum. I am only, honestly, saying that there is a perception here that your hate of Rosen is not based on his football talent or character...but on something else.
Now, as I said, hope that perception is completely wrong...and that you will disavow anything that implies that your disdain for Rosen is because of his race/religion/national background etc. Here is your opportunity.
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Gip you're an idiot.
WSS
But I am absolutely right about this perception.
Nevertheless....Cal can certainly disavow it...and hopefully resolve it.
Having met him, I would think, and hope not.
Sorry that I had to be the one to have the courage to bring it to the surface.
But I am absolutely right about this perception.
Nevertheless....Cal can certainly disavow it...and hopefully resolve it.
Having met him, I would think, and hope not.
Sorry that I had to be the one to have the courage to bring it to the surface.
No you are not right about his perception. You are an idiot and a loudmouth and you don't know what you're talking about. You have no courage, no brains and in this instance no clue.
This has nothing to do with your stupid politics or his. I know Cal personally and I know him to be one of the most pro-israel pro-jewish guys in my acquaintance.
You can take it from here Cal.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
But I am absolutely right about this perception.
Nevertheless....Cal can certainly disavow it...and hopefully resolve it.
Having met him, I would think, and hope not.
Sorry that I had to be the one to have the courage to bring it to the surface.
No you are not right about his perception. You are an idiot and a loudmouth and you don't know what you're talking about. You have no courage, no brains and in this instance no clue.
This has nothing to do with your stupid politics or his. I know Cal personally and I know him to be one of the most pro-israel pro-jewish guys in my acquaintance.
You can take it from here Cal.
WSS
No you are not right about his perception. You are an idiot and a loudmouth and you don't know what you're talking about. You have no courage, no brains and in this instance no clue.
This has nothing to do with your stupid politics or his. I know Cal personally and I know him to be one of the most pro-israel pro-jewish guys I know.
You can take it from here Cal.
WSS
Well...good, but the fact is that perception was/is there. (It isn't his perception...it is our perception)
And you KNOW that I am one of the most tolerant of individuals you have ever met. So, good for Cal.
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No you are not right about his perception. You are an idiot and a loudmouth and you don't know what you're talking about. You have no courage, no brains and in this instance no clue.
This has nothing to do with your stupid politics or his. I know Cal personally and I know him to be one of the most pro-israel pro-jewish guys I know.
You can take it from here Cal.
WSS
Well...good, but the fact is that perception was/is there. (It isn't his perception...it is our perception)
And you KNOW that I am one of the most tolerant of individuals you have ever met. So, good for Cal.
Well...good, but the fact is that perception was/is there. (It isn't his perception...it is our perception)
And you KNOW that I am one of the most tolerant of individuals you have ever met. So, good for Cal.
Anyone who shares that perception is an idiot. Just for the record we're not talking about your tolerance levels whatever they might be.WSS -
I'm a nobody of course but it's clear to me that Rosen is the top passer in the draft. I don't even think it's close. The real issue for me is durability, especially with Joe Thomas retired.
I'm a nobody of course but it's clear to me that Rosen is the top passer in the draft. I don't even think it's close. The real issue for me is durability, especially with Joe Thomas retired.
That's certainly a concern. On the other hand Deshone Kizer didn't get killed after Joe was hurt.
Also I don't think I'm the only guy who's mentioned a concern with Rosen's coachability.
Which may or may not be valid.
WSS
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The knee jerk reaction by immature jackwagons to ascribe negative labels on anybody who disagrees with them,
is an epidemic.
Too bad - it's identity politics gone nazi brownshirt. It will just stink up this board, and the childish putting of discussion opponents
on the personal defensive reeks of ignorant belligerence. It seems to be self-serving "Lord of the Flies" hostility once in a while.
Too bad. Demagoguery gone wild. Too bad. That's stooping really low.
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I'm a nobody of course but it's clear to me that Rosen is the top passer in the draft. I don't even think it's close. The real issue for me is durability, especially with Joe Thomas retired.
That's certainly a concern. On the other hand Deshone Kizer didn't get killed after Joe was hurt.
Also I don't think I'm the only guy who's mentioned a concern with Rosen's coachability.
Which may or may not be valid.
WSS
That's certainly a concern. On the other hand Deshone Kizer didn't get killed after Joe was hurt.
Also I don't think I'm the only guy who's mentioned a concern with Rosen's coachability.
Which may or may not be valid.
WSS
I've repeated many times, that Rosen is considered the "best pure pocket passer". That doesn't tell me he's ready to lead a pro team, and battle for a city and team fan group, to win. I posted about Ryan Leaf, and several things he says about himself - apply to rosen.
The pro level requires serious dedication and work. Plenty of college qb's drafted crash in the NFL. They don't make it, or maybe just languish around the league. It's all been said about these qb's.
Again, when I watched the state farm college all star competition - other players didn't seem to be drawn to rosen. They were to all sorts of other players. The quarterbacks laughed and cheered each other on. Rosen went out of his way to high five a few guys - it seems forced. He doesn't seem to make friends easily. And when a college qb admits he had trouble with women on his own campus not liking him..."who don't know him"... I think that is just another smoke whisp that could signal trouble ahead.
Just go read up on Ryan Leaf's sad introspective appraisal of his attitudes, etc when he was in college and entered the NFL.
Hopefully, Rosen does and has a very fine career because of it.
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