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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @sd_tom said:

    Posted this on a different thread,  but it belongs here.  He's not injury prone.  Stuff happens.  It's football. 

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/gojoebruin.com/2018/03/01/nfl-combine-injury-excuses-ucla-josh-rosen-need-to-stop/amp/

    And I posted in the same other thread- you just can't ignore concussions. 

    @hoorta said:

    And I posted in the same other thread- you just can't ignore concussions. 

    When it's one with a "concussion symptoms" secondary (cowpoop) in a 4 year span?  

    Yeah... not too worried.  

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @hoorta said:

    And I posted in the same other thread- you just can't ignore concussions. 

    When it's one with a "concussion symptoms" secondary (cowpoop) in a 4 year span?  

    Yeah... not too worried.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    When it's one with a "concussion symptoms" secondary (cowpoop) in a 4 year span?  

    Yeah... not too worried.  

    They (interim coach and medical staff) were looking out for him. Saved him from playing in a meaningless bowl game when they knew he was declaring for the NFL. 

    He's got enough film to see what he brings to the table.  

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    @tiamat63 said:

    When it's one with a "concussion symptoms" secondary (cowpoop) in a 4 year span?  

    Yeah... not too worried.  

    They (interim coach and medical staff) were looking out for him. Saved him from playing in a meaningless bowl game when they knew he was declaring for the NFL. 

    He's got enough film to see what he brings to the table.  

    @sd_tom said:

    They (interim coach and medical staff) were looking out for him. Saved him from playing in a meaningless bowl game when they knew he was declaring for the NFL. 

    He's got enough film to see what he brings to the table.  

    I'm pretty sure everyone in college football has had their bell rung at least once or twice in a world emphasizing the physics of bigger, faster, stronger.

    If he goes to a team like Aikman went to back in the day, there were a least 2 concussions against Buddy Ryan's Eagles alone as a rookie.  So, it CAN be a concern.  Keep in mind, there's a lot of bad teams needing the best QBs in this draft. And one of them (the NY Giants) had atrocious pass protection working in tandem with underwhelming run blocking fwiw.  

    As I said previously, as much as I really like the top QB prospects they all have something to be concerned about.  I won't have a tough time getting excited about Rosen, Darnold or Mayfield.  That said, I'd need to revert back to my fraternity rules of attraction and power down somewhere between 6 and 12 beers in order to find Josh Allen to be an attractive choice.   And Lamar Jackson might require some Maddog 20/20 or Moonshine... 

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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  • FlugelF Flugel

    @sd_tom said:

    They (interim coach and medical staff) were looking out for him. Saved him from playing in a meaningless bowl game when they knew he was declaring for the NFL. 

    He's got enough film to see what he brings to the table.  

    I'm pretty sure everyone in college football has had their bell rung at least once or twice in a world emphasizing the physics of bigger, faster, stronger.

    If he goes to a team like Aikman went to back in the day, there were a least 2 concussions against Buddy Ryan's Eagles alone as a rookie.  So, it CAN be a concern.  Keep in mind, there's a lot of bad teams needing the best QBs in this draft. And one of them (the NY Giants) had atrocious pass protection working in tandem with underwhelming run blocking fwiw.  

    As I said previously, as much as I really like the top QB prospects they all have something to be concerned about.  I won't have a tough time getting excited about Rosen, Darnold or Mayfield.  That said, I'd need to revert back to my fraternity rules of attraction and power down somewhere between 6 and 12 beers in order to find Josh Allen to be an attractive choice.   And Lamar Jackson might require some Maddog 20/20 or Moonshine... 

    @flugel said:

    ... has had their bell rung at least once or twice in a world emphasizing the physics of bigger, faster, stronger.

    Put a different way... There are basically two types of football player entering the NFL, those that have been concussed and those that will be.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @flugel said:

    ... has had their bell rung at least once or twice in a world emphasizing the physics of bigger, faster, stronger.

    Put a different way... There are basically two types of football player entering the NFL, those that have been concussed and those that will be.

    @tour2ma said:

    Put a different way... There are basically two types of football player entering the NFL, those that have been concussed and those that will be.

    That too.  And they're not just QBs right Mr Kuechly?   

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"

  • Maybe he'll get hit less than the other rookies because he can process the plays faster and get rid of the ball faster. 

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @flugel said:

    ... has had their bell rung at least once or twice in a world emphasizing the physics of bigger, faster, stronger.

    Put a different way... There are basically two types of football player entering the NFL, those that have been concussed and those that will be.

    @tour2ma said:

    Put a different way... There are basically two types of football player entering the NFL, those that have been concussed and those that will be.

    and you get a participation  trophy  for that one cause that was very enlightening

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  • Tyrod will start and play for a minimum of one year.  During that time the QB that the Browns draft at #1 will be holding a clipboard and learning.  Optimum scenario.

    I'm putting my full faith and trust in the Browns' new front office.  They can draft whatever QB they want at #1 - it'll be the right decision.  I could care less if it's Darnold, Rudolph, or David Pindell.  

  • SuomiS Suomi

    Tyrod will start and play for a minimum of one year.  During that time the QB that the Browns draft at #1 will be holding a clipboard and learning.  Optimum scenario.

    I'm putting my full faith and trust in the Browns' new front office.  They can draft whatever QB they want at #1 - it'll be the right decision.  I could care less if it's Darnold, Rudolph, or David Pindell.  

    @suomi said:

    Tyrod will start and play for a minimum of one year.  During that time the QB that the Browns draft at #1 will be holding a clipboard and learning.  Optimum scenario.

    I'm putting my full faith and trust in the Browns' new front office.  They can draft whatever QB they want at #1.  It'll be the right decision.  I could care less if it's Darnold, Rudolph, or Rudolph.  

    you get one also just for saying Rudolph twice 

    😂
  • sydS syd

    @tour2ma said:

    Put a different way... There are basically two types of football player entering the NFL, those that have been concussed and those that will be.

    and you get a participation  trophy  for that one cause that was very enlightening

    @syd said:

    and you get a participation  trophy  for that one cause that was very enlightening

    Gee, thanks... I'll be watching the mail.

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  • FlugelF Flugel

    @sd_tom said:

    They (interim coach and medical staff) were looking out for him. Saved him from playing in a meaningless bowl game when they knew he was declaring for the NFL. 

    He's got enough film to see what he brings to the table.  

    I'm pretty sure everyone in college football has had their bell rung at least once or twice in a world emphasizing the physics of bigger, faster, stronger.

    If he goes to a team like Aikman went to back in the day, there were a least 2 concussions against Buddy Ryan's Eagles alone as a rookie.  So, it CAN be a concern.  Keep in mind, there's a lot of bad teams needing the best QBs in this draft. And one of them (the NY Giants) had atrocious pass protection working in tandem with underwhelming run blocking fwiw.  

    As I said previously, as much as I really like the top QB prospects they all have something to be concerned about.  I won't have a tough time getting excited about Rosen, Darnold or Mayfield.  That said, I'd need to revert back to my fraternity rules of attraction and power down somewhere between 6 and 12 beers in order to find Josh Allen to be an attractive choice.   And Lamar Jackson might require some Maddog 20/20 or Moonshine... 

    @flugel said:

    As I said previously, as much as I really like the top QB prospects they all have something to be concerned about.  I won't have a tough time getting excited about Rosen, Darnold or Mayfield.  That said, I'd need to revert back to my fraternity rules of attraction and power down somewhere between 6 and 12 beers in order to find Josh Allen to be an attractive choice.   And Lamar Jackson might require some Maddog 20/20 or Moonshine... 

    You need to raise your standards Tom. I recommend a bottle of Ag's favorite rum, Diplomatico Reserva. I have a bottle on hand in the liquor cabinet in the event of that unfortunate occurrence...   I might even start hammering it if I hear Allen's name called when it's our turn.  

    It's still a month away but (Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield) + Chubb may be cause to break out the champagne....  

    😂

  • "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @tour2ma said:

    hey that's the interview i was talking about where he looks like a dufus 

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  • W Westside Steve

    https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/27/jim-mora-josh-rosen-sam-darnold/

    @westside-steve said:

    https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/27/jim-mora-josh-rosen-sam-darnold/

    Saw that.... what do you think Mora sees about NYG that makes him declare them the better fit?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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    @westside-steve said:

    https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/27/jim-mora-josh-rosen-sam-darnold/

    Saw that.... what do you think Mora sees about NYG that makes him declare them the better fit?

    @tour2ma said:

    Saw that.... what do you think Mora sees about NYG that makes him declare them the better fit?

    The words:  New York.    

    Whatever character flaws that Cal assesses to Rosen....rightly or wrongly, I do think that the desire to be in the spotlight in a big market is a primary motivation for Rosen.....having been just there in his time in LA.   Being from the LA area.....he  wants to be like Eva Gabor...and he thinks that coming to Cleveland to play football is like going to Hooterville.

  • The "spotlight" will be determined by level of play, not location. (See: James, LeBron)

    I don't think Mora is looking at the best fit in any way other than from a coach's perspective. NYG, behind Manning, is a far better style "fit" then CLE, behind TT.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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    The "spotlight" will be determined by level of play, not location. (See: James, LeBron)

    I don't think Mora is looking at the best fit in any way other than from a coach's perspective. NYG, behind Manning, is a far better style "fit" then CLE, behind TT.

    @tour2ma said:

    The "spotlight" will be determined by level of play, not location. (See: James, LeBron)

    I don't think Mora is looking at the best fit in any way other than from a coach's perspective. NYG, behind Manning, is a far better style "fit" then CLE, behind TT.

    You might hope and think that would be true:   style/fit/level of play.     But you also have the illogical human factor.  If a guy wants to go to a place...that is an illogical human factor in what he wants....or if he does not want to go to a place.  (I kind of thought the Eva Gabor/Hooterville analogy was kind of clever). 

    So, which of these QBs WOULD be a better fit for Cleveland...playing behind TT, based on fit/style of play etc.?  And why?

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  • I will say this:    I think the two most famous examples of a player NOT wanting to go play somewhere had all to do with fit/comfort level:

    John Elway:   His Dad had coached against Frank Kush....and he knew that he didn't want any part of Frank Kush for his son.  Plus, maybe even more so....he did NOT want to play for the moronic, unpredictable, incompetent  Robert Irsay organization.

    Eli Manning:  His Dad did not want his son to have any part of the Chargers organization....not so much because of the owner or the coach, I don't think...but because of the GM.......whose name was  Something Smith.   Archie wanted Eli to have no part of that guy.  And Archie was  OK with Peyton going to play with Jim Irsay's team.  

    So...yes, perhaps....I can see Rosen...and his "team" of advisors saying:   You don't want any part of the Browns....and particularly Hue Jackson  who is thisclose to being fired there.   The coaching situation in Cleveland is too volatile.....so let's try to steer clear of that. 

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