USC QBs Overrated
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Lately Cal is looking good.
Goff and Rodgers.
Lately Cal is looking good.
Goff and Rodgers.
This game can go on a while.
Joe Kapp, Craig Morton, Steve Bartkowski I know ....Ancient history.
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Don't play the ignoramous role. Or...are you not playing it?
How many other Caveman QBs you got?
How many other Caveman QBs you got?
How many brain cells do you have? Very few I surmise.
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Really....you never heard of Tommy Maddox, Jay Schroeder, Steve Bono:
Drafted Players
Rk Year Rnd Pick Pos DrAge Tm From To AP1 PB St CarAV G GS QBrec Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD College/Univ 1 2015 5 147 Brett Hundley QB 22 GNB 2016 2017 0 0 1 5 15 9 3-6-0 194 326 1853 9 13 39 268 2 UCLA College Stats 2 1999 1 12 Cade McNown QB 22 CHI 1999 2000 0 0 0 7 25 15 3-12-0 281 515 3111 16 19 82 486 3 UCLA College Stats 3 1992 1 25 Tommy Maddox QB 21 DEN 1992 2005 0 0 2 24 92 36 15-20-1 686 1200 8087 48 54 68 128 1 UCLA College Stats 4 1989 1 1 Troy Aikman HOF QB 22 DAL 1989 2000 0 6 11 97 165 165 94-71-0 2898 4715 32942 165 141 327 1016 9 UCLA College Stats 5 1986 11 291 David Norrie QB 22 SEA 1987 1987 0 0 0 1 2 2 0-2-0 35 68 376 1 4 5 5 0 UCLA College Stats 6 1985 6 142 Steve Bono QB 23 MIN 1985 1999 0 1 2 32 88 42 28-14-0 934 1701 10439 62 42 125 257 7 UCLA College Stats 7 1984 3 83 Jay Schroeder QB 23 WAS 1985 1994 0 1 8 62 118 99 61-38-0 1426 2808 20063 114 108 242 761 5 UCLA College Stats 8 1983 10 267 Tom Ramsey QB 22 NWE 1986 1989 0 0 0 5 28 5 2-3-0 108 214 1285 7 10 21 82 1 UCLA College Stats 9 1968 2 30 Gary Beban QB 22 RAM 1968 1969 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 1 0 0 0 5 18 0 UCLA College Stats Steve Bono sucked.
The criteria is Super Bowls winning QBs and not guys passing out cups of Gatorade.
Steve Bono sucked.
The criteria is Super Bowls winning QBs and not guys passing out cups of Gatorade.
That was NOT the criteria. The criteria was simply: What school has put out the most Good QBs? (the exact quote from Tour was: "what school can be considered QBU"....and this from Dutch: So what school is the best for QBs? Alabama? Miami? Notre Dame?
Winning SBs was only a part of that. Being in the HOF is a part of that. Being a good QB was a part of that. Other things were part of that.
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Lately Cal is looking good.
Goff and Rodgers.
This game can go on a while.
Joe Kapp, Craig Morton, Steve Bartkowski I know ....Ancient history.
This game can go on a while.
Joe Kapp, Craig Morton, Steve Bartkowski I know ....Ancient history.
Kinda would be good to talk about QBs relevant to todays game since the Browns are drafting one.
Goff looks promising. Rodgers might be the best.
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How many other Caveman QBs you got?
How many brain cells do you have? Very few I surmise.
How many brain cells do you have? Very few I surmise.
Enough to know that Knute Rockne could not play in todays NFL regardless of your Idiotic charts and graphs.
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Here is one way to answer the question: What is QBU:
I am looking at the PFR career Production Average of the Top 250 players in NFL history...or at least since they did measuring of this which is like from 1960 forward.
Of these 250 Top players, 45 of them are QBs. So....the following are schools that had multiple QBs come out of there in the Top 45 productive QBs since the 60s:
Purdue has 3: Dawson, Griese, Brees
Alabama has 3: Namath, Starr, Stabler
Stanford has 2; Brodie, Elway
NC St. has 2: Roman Gabriel and Phillip Rivers
Cal has 2: Aaron Rodgers and Craig Morton
And that is it...all other schools had just one.
Now, this leaves out a lot of guys. Because it is a career production average.....guys with longer careers got more points.
Take Miami Fla.....the only QB in the top 45 CA was: Vinny Testaverde.......meaning that Kosar and Kelly were not in there. And anyone that knows anything knows that Kelly and Kosar were better QBs than Vinny.....yet that is how these particular numbers came out.
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Steve Bono sucked.
The criteria is Super Bowls winning QBs and not guys passing out cups of Gatorade.
That was NOT the criteria. The criteria was simply: What school has put out the most Good QBs? (the exact quote from Tour was: "what school can be considered QBU"....and this from Dutch: So what school is the best for QBs? Alabama? Miami? Notre Dame?
Winning SBs was only a part of that. Being in the HOF is a part of that. Being a good QB was a part of that. Other things were part of that.
That was NOT the criteria. The criteria was simply: What school has put out the most Good QBs? (the exact quote from Tour was: "what school can be considered QBU"....and this from Dutch: So what school is the best for QBs? Alabama? Miami? Notre Dame?
Winning SBs was only a part of that. Being in the HOF is a part of that. Being a good QB was a part of that. Other things were part of that.
Bono blows.
Bono, Maddox and Shroeder were not good QBs on any planet.
Is that all the Browns want? A good QB. Gee, you would think that they would be after a great QB
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How many brain cells do you have? Very few I surmise.
Enough to know that Knute Rockne could not play in todays NFL regardless of your Idiotic charts and graphs.
Enough to know that Knute Rockne could not play in todays NFL regardless of your Idiotic charts and graphs.
You are not even smart enough to know that Knute Rockne was a college coach.....and NOT an NFL player.
You are showing your ignorance with every stroke of the key. If you want to keep making a fool of yourself...by all means do so.. otherwise I would just go watch TV or something.
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That was NOT the criteria. The criteria was simply: What school has put out the most Good QBs? (the exact quote from Tour was: "what school can be considered QBU"....and this from Dutch: So what school is the best for QBs? Alabama? Miami? Notre Dame?
Winning SBs was only a part of that. Being in the HOF is a part of that. Being a good QB was a part of that. Other things were part of that.
Bono blows.
Bono, Maddox and Shroeder were not good QBs on any planet.
Is that all the Browns want? A good QB. Gee, you would think that they would be after a great QB
Bono blows.
Bono, Maddox and Shroeder were not good QBs on any planet.
Is that all the Browns want? A good QB. Gee, you would think that they would be after a great QB
Didn't say Bono etc. were any good. But you have heard of them. That was all that was about.
And the course of this discussion has fuyuck all to do with what the Browns want.
Are you seriously so goddam dumb that you cannot follow along with a thread?
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Enough to know that Knute Rockne could not play in todays NFL regardless of your Idiotic charts and graphs.
You are not even smart enough to know that Knute Rockne was a college coach.....and NOT an NFL player.
You are showing your ignorance with every stroke of the key. If you want to keep making a fool of yourself...by all means do so.. otherwise I would just go watch TV or something.
You are not even smart enough to know that Knute Rockne was a college coach.....and NOT an NFL player.
You are showing your ignorance with every stroke of the key. If you want to keep making a fool of yourself...by all means do so.. otherwise I would just go watch TV or something.
You never fail to disappoint and make an butt of yourself. Good job.
The Akron Pros were a professional football team For his 1914 recruiting efforts, Parratt signed the usual big-name players, which consisted of a lineup that changed from week to week, with just enough stars on hand to guarantee a win. However, in 1914, he also employed several former Notre Dame stars, including the legendary Knute Rockne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akron_Pros
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Bono blows.
Bono, Maddox and Shroeder were not good QBs on any planet.
Is that all the Browns want? A good QB. Gee, you would think that they would be after a great QB
Didn't say Bono etc. were any good. But you have heard of them. That was all that was about.
And the course of this discussion has fuyuck all to do with what the Browns want.
Are you seriously so goddam dumb that you cannot follow along with a thread?
Didn't say Bono etc. were any good. But you have heard of them. That was all that was about.
And the course of this discussion has fuyuck all to do with what the Browns want.
Are you seriously so goddam dumb that you cannot follow along with a thread?
Really....you never heard of Tommy Maddox, Jay Schroeder, Steve Bono:
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This is really a dumb conversation. Tennessee is a good example... how many good QBs were before Manning, or Miami (OH) (Big Ben), Michigan (Brady), Cal (Rodgers), and so on... which college they went to means absolutely nothing...
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Here is one way to answer the question: What is QBU:
I am looking at the PFR career Production Average of the Top 250 players in NFL history...or at least since they did measuring of this which is like from 1960 forward.
Of these 250 Top players, 45 of them are QBs. So....the following are schools that had multiple QBs come out of there in the Top 45 productive QBs since the 60s:
Purdue has 3: Dawson, Griese, Brees
Alabama has 3: Namath, Starr, Stabler
Stanford has 2; Brodie, Elway
NC St. has 2: Roman Gabriel and Phillip Rivers
Cal has 2: Aaron Rodgers and Craig Morton
And that is it...all other schools had just one.
Now, this leaves out a lot of guys. Because it is a career production average.....guys with longer careers got more points.
Take Miami Fla.....the only QB in the top 45 CA was: Vinny Testaverde.......meaning that Kosar and Kelly were not in there. And anyone that knows anything knows that Kelly and Kosar were better QBs than Vinny.....yet that is how these particular numbers came out.
Here is one way to answer the question: What is QBU:
I am looking at the PFR career Production Average of the Top 250 players in NFL history...or at least since they did measuring of this which is like from 1960 forward.
Of these 250 Top players, 45 of them are QBs. So....the following are schools that had multiple QBs come out of there in the Top 45 productive QBs since the 60s:
Purdue has 3: Dawson, Griese, Brees
Alabama has 3: Namath, Starr, Stabler
Stanford has 2; Brodie, Elway
NC St. has 2: Roman Gabriel and Phillip Rivers
Cal has 2: Aaron Rodgers and Craig Morton
And that is it...all other schools had just one.
Now, this leaves out a lot of guys. Because it is a career production average.....guys with longer careers got more points.
Take Miami Fla.....the only QB in the top 45 CA was: Vinny Testaverde.......meaning that Kosar and Kelly were not in there. And anyone that knows anything knows that Kelly and Kosar were better QBs than Vinny.....yet that is how these particular numbers came out.
If you are using a stat as a measuring stick that does not include Jim Kelly, I would get rid of that stat.
Zombo
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You are not even smart enough to know that Knute Rockne was a college coach.....and NOT an NFL player.
You are showing your ignorance with every stroke of the key. If you want to keep making a fool of yourself...by all means do so.. otherwise I would just go watch TV or something.
You never fail to disappoint and make an butt of yourself. Good job.
The Akron Pros were a professional football team For his 1914 recruiting efforts, Parratt signed the usual big-name players, which consisted of a lineup that changed from week to week, with just enough stars on hand to guarantee a win. However, in 1914, he also employed several former Notre Dame stars, including the legendary Knute Rockne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akron_Pros
You never fail to disappoint and make an butt of yourself. Good job.
The Akron Pros were a professional football team For his 1914 recruiting efforts, Parratt signed the usual big-name players, which consisted of a lineup that changed from week to week, with just enough stars on hand to guarantee a win. However, in 1914, he also employed several former Notre Dame stars, including the legendary Knute Rockne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akron_Pros
Never said that Rockne never played football somewhere.....I said that he never played in the NFL...and was known as a coach. In 1914 the NFL did not yet exist.
And you had no clue that Rockne even played semi-pro type ball for the Akron Pros until you googled him.
But...since you say you know so much about this.....why can you not know who played in the 1990s?
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This is really a dumb conversation. Tennessee is a good example... how many good QBs were before Manning, or Miami (OH) (Big Ben), Michigan (Brady), Cal (Rodgers), and so on... which college they went to means absolutely nothing...
This is really a dumb conversation. Tennessee is a good example... how many good QBs were before Manning, or Miami (OH) (Big Ben), Michigan (Brady), Cal (Rodgers), and so on... which college they went to means absolutely nothing...
It is called: Entertainment.
And actually....it DOES mean something if you are a fan of a particular school.
(and FYI, Cal had two former QBs start Super Bowls before Aaron Rodgers: Craig Morton and Joe Kapp)
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Here is one way to answer the question: What is QBU:
I am looking at the PFR career Production Average of the Top 250 players in NFL history...or at least since they did measuring of this which is like from 1960 forward.
Of these 250 Top players, 45 of them are QBs. So....the following are schools that had multiple QBs come out of there in the Top 45 productive QBs since the 60s:
Purdue has 3: Dawson, Griese, Brees
Alabama has 3: Namath, Starr, Stabler
Stanford has 2; Brodie, Elway
NC St. has 2: Roman Gabriel and Phillip Rivers
Cal has 2: Aaron Rodgers and Craig Morton
And that is it...all other schools had just one.
Now, this leaves out a lot of guys. Because it is a career production average.....guys with longer careers got more points.
Take Miami Fla.....the only QB in the top 45 CA was: Vinny Testaverde.......meaning that Kosar and Kelly were not in there. And anyone that knows anything knows that Kelly and Kosar were better QBs than Vinny.....yet that is how these particular numbers came out.
If you are using a stat as a measuring stick that does not include Jim Kelly, I would get rid of that stat.
Zombo
Zombo said:
If you are using a stat as a measuring stick that does not include Jim Kelly, I would get rid of that stat.
Zombo
Fair point.....but, I had used any number of other measuring sticks: QBs in the HOF, QBs who started in Super Bowls; QBs who were drafted in the first round....etc. This was just another poker chip in the ante. If you have another measuring stick to suggest.....I would be glad to flesh it out.
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