All Saquon, all the Time...

PoeticG

@mark-o said:

You said what about Hogan? That's he's a third string no arm lousy QB who's about to be shipped out of town? If you said that, then you'd be correct.

I said we should get Hogan before the draft. We did end up getting him in a round about way. He set a record against the Bengals in his very first and only game.

He was the best QB on the roster last year in training camp, during the season he outperformed Kizer on a daily basis. I said he was the best QB on the roster and he's the ONLY QB still on the roster. So, you can say what you want.

Just because you got you had a shitty time at the game that Hogan started last year, don't take it all out on Hogan. Who were his receivers that game Mark? - that's not rhetorical.

It absolutely kills you to have to give me credit for anything, doesn't it? Oh, first world problems...

PoeticG

And for the record you don't know what string QB Hogan is this season.

I fully expect him to be right on Tyrod's heels. He's a warrior.

Dutch Oven

@poeticg said:

Ya know, that's not the only thing either- I called Derek Carr, Tyrann, and a host of other guys. And you know the funny part- every single time I call for a player, I'm bashed and NEVER ONCE given the benefit of the doubt. Whatever though, it's all good- I'll continue to beat my drum and my tribe will find me.

Your tribe will be unboarding their short bus with a long name right after they finish licking the windows.

PoeticG

@dutch-oven said:

Your tribe will be unboarding their short bus with a long name right after they finish licking the windows.

Image result for Peanut Gallery Sign Brought to you by the Troll who farts under the covers... and likes the smell.

Dutch Oven

@poeticg said:

Brought to you by the Troll who farts under the covers... and likes the smell.

Don't get your extra chromosome all in a huff, PatheticG.

PoeticG

@dutch-oven said:

Don't get your extra chromosome all in a huff, PatheticG.

Don't you be calling me out my name dawg. Pathetic is your attempt at mocking me for calling Barkley for what he is. Pathetic is being so punch drunk for a Quarterback that you can't see the forest for the tress. Pathetic is your attempt at trolling me, without ever adding anything of substance to your own posts.

You see, what I do is poetic. What you do is pathetic. Quite a difference it makes when you actually know what a word means.

Barkley will be the #1 pick of the draft OR he'll be the #2 pick in the draft, it all depends on how smart the Browns are going to play this.

Dutch Oven

@poeticg said:

Barkley will be the #1 pick of the draft OR he'll be the #2 pick in the draft, it all depends on how smart the Browns are going to play this.

Browns can't draft Barkley.

It would violate his restraining order against you to be in Cleveland.

PoeticG

@dutch-oven said:

Browns can't draft Barkley.

It would violate his restraining order against you to be in Cleveland.

It's cool, I can move back to AZ if that's what it takes.

Saquon is what will make this Franchise turn the corner and take it to the next level.

Dutch Oven

@poeticg said:

It's cool, I can move back to AZ if that's what it takes.

Saquon is what will make this Franchise turn the corner and take it to the next level.

Wait - you want the Browns to take Saquon Barkley, the RB from Penn State?

PoeticG

@dutch-oven said:

Wait - you want the Browns to take Saquon Barkley, the RB from Penn State?

#1 Overall - 100%

I just read that the NFL is going to change the rule that you can't strike with your helmet. Good Shmucking luck trying to bring down Barkley at all next year. Without defenses targeting his tree trunk legs, it's going to be funny as hell to see the number of defenders shitting their pants and have to actually try to tackle him.

Dutch Oven

@poeticg said:

#1 Overall - 100%

I just read that the NFL is going to change the rule that you can't strike with your helmet. Good Shmucking luck trying to bring down Barkley at all next year. Without defenses targeting his tree trunk legs, it's going to be funny as hell to see the number of defenders shitting their pants and have to actually try to tackle him.

NFL defenses are going to be "shitting their pants" trying to tackle Barkley, when NCAA defenses held him under 100 yards a game last season on the regular?

Interesting.

Mark O

@dutch-oven said:

NFL defenses are going to be "shitting their pants" trying to tackle Barkley, when NCAA defenses held him under 100 yards a game last season on the regular?

Interesting.

Don't confuse pipsqueakG with facts like that...it makes his little head hurt.

Dutch Oven

@mark-o said:

Don't confuse pipsqueakG with facts like that...it makes his little head hurt.

Ironically PatheticG's little head hurts whenever he thinks about Barkley - all the blood rushes to it.

PoeticG

He totaled 5,557 all-purpose yards in his three year collegiate career.

Nice try PG (Peanut Gallery) Fans.

Dutch Oven

@poeticg said:

He totaled 5,557 all-purpose yards in his three year collegiate career.

Nice try PG (Peanut Gallery) Fans.

Oh... Saquon... you... have... so... many... all-purpose... yards... ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

PoeticG

Saquon Barkley played in 38 games. In those 38 games he managed to pick up a total of 5,557 yards. What is his average yards per game?

- I'll just put it here for you since I don't expect a straight answer... 146 yards per game average.

PoeticG

You guys are soooo.... special to me

Here's your boy Sony Michel's numbers last year.... what was that you were saying about Barkley? What is that, 7 catches all year? What is that game with 2.3 yards per carry? I see at least 5 games where he didn't get 10 carries... hmm, more than one can play this little game...

2017 Game Log	Rushing	Receiving
DATE	OPP	RESULT	ATT	YDS	AVG	LNG	TD	REC	YDS	AVG	LNG	TD
9/2	Appalachian State	W 31-10	16	87	5.4	44	1	0	0	0.0	0	0
9/9	@Notre Dame	W 20-19	13	73	5.6	17	1	1	-2	-2.0	0	0
9/16	Samford	W 42-14	No statistics available.
9/23	Mississippi State	W 31-3	7	32	4.6	8	0	1	3	3.0	3	0
9/30	@Tennessee	W 41-0	11	64	5.8	21	1	0	0	0.0	0	0
10/7	@Vanderbilt	W 45-14	12	150	12.5	50	1	0	0	0.0	0	0
10/14	Missouri	W 53-28	9	86	9.6	36	2	0	0	0.0	0	0
10/28	@Florida	W 42-7	6	137	22.8	74	2	0	0	0.0	0	0
11/4	South Carolina	W 24-10	16	81	5.1	13	1	1	16	16.0	16	0
11/11	@Auburn	L 40-17	9	21	2.3	7	0	0	0	0.0	0	0
11/18	Kentucky	W 42-13	12	87	7.3	37	3	0	0	0.0	0	0
11/25	@Georgia Tech	W 38-7	13	85	6.5	16	1	0	0	0.0	0	0
12/2	@Auburn	W 28-7	7	45	6.4	18	0	2	38	19.0	32	0
ROSE BOWL GAME PRESENTED BY NORTHWESTERN MUTUAL - CFP SEMIFINAL
1/1	@Oklahoma	W 54-48 (2OT)	11	181	16.5	75	3	4	41	10.3	17	1
CFP NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP PRESENTED BY AT&T
1/8	Alabama	L 26-23 (OT)	14	98	7.0	26	0	0	0	0.0	0	0

Dutch Oven

Sony Michel is exactly whose boy?

PoeticG

https://www.silverandblackpride.com/2018/3/28/17173990/nfl-draft-2018-scouting-report-saquon-barkley-is-the-crown-jewel-of-this-class

NFL Draft 2018 Scouting Report: Saquon Barkley is the crown jewel of this class

By Tyler Green@TylerGreenSB Mar 28, 2018, 4:14pm PDT

Jeffrey Becker-USA TODAY Sports

Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State

Measurables
6’0”, 233 lbs
40-yd Dash: 4.40 seconds
Vertical Jump: 41 inches
Bench Press: 29 reps

Stats
2017: 1,271 Rushing Yards, 5.9 Yards Per Carry, 18 Touchdowns, 632 Receiving Yards
2016: 1,496 Rushing Yards, 5.5 Yards Per Carry, 18 Touchdowns, 402 Receiving Yards
2015: 1,076 Rushing Yards, 5.9 Yards Per Carry, 7 Touchdowns, 161 Receiving Yards

Awards
2017 First-Team All-American
2017 First-Team All-Big Ten
2017 Big-Ten Offensive Player of the Year
2017 No. 4 in the Heisman Trophy voting
2017 Paul Hornung Award (college football’s most versatile player)
2017 Finalist for the Maxwell Award, Doak Walker Award, Lombardi Award and Walter Camp Player of the Year Award

2016 Second-Team All-American
2016 First-Team All-Big Ten
2016 Big-Ten Offensive Player of the Year
2015 Second-Team All-Big Ten
2015 Big-Ten Offensive Freshman of the Year

Strengths
With a 6’0”, 233 lb frame and world-class speed and agility, Penn State running back Saquon Barkley looks as if he was made in a laboratory. His athleticism combined with great vision and an unreal jump cut make him one of the best running backs to come out of the draft in years.
Barkley is also a receiving threat out of the backfield which will help him be a three-down player in the NFL. His pass blocking is dependable as he squares up his feet and body to meet blitzing defenders.

Weaknesses
At times, Barkley suffers from ‘Barry Sanders syndrome’ where he tries to make something out of nothing and ends up losing substantial yards as a result. He needs to know when to simply lower his head and avoid a loss on the play.
The other popular criticism of Barkley is that he doesn’t always play to his size meaning he isn’t a physical running back. He chooses to avoid tacklers instead. As shown in his game against San Diego State, Barkley is more than capable of breaking tackles.

Verdict
From top to bottom, the 2018 NFL Draft class boasts plenty of talent, but Saquon Barkley is the crown jewel. He has the ability to be a perennial All-Pro and a potential Hall of Famer if he is placed behind even just an average offensive line. With excellent size and athleticism along with great elusiveness, the former Nittany Lion is as close to a “sure thing” prospect as the draft has to offer.

Pro Comparison
LaDainian Tomlinson

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That is why he is the #1 Overall selection and the Face of the Cleveland Browns for years to come. With Barkley we'll win the Superbowl within 3 years.

Gunz41

@poeticg said:

Saquon Barkley played in 38 games. In those 38 games he managed to pick up a total of 5,557 yards. What is his average yards per game?

- I'll just put it here for you since I don't expect a straight answer... 146 yards per game average.

Now Mr. G, you are starting to try and use good points, we may be friends yet even if I think you are wrong.

When you actually use some evidence it helps your case. Like I have said from beginning, I have an issue with the extreme OVERHYPE, not the player or his ability.

BUT, for you to help your case even more you MUST explain your All purpose yards, especially when you then use some other players numbers as supporting your case.

Meaning, when you degrade Michels you, then you also have to do the same for Barkley. You also have to factor in that Barkley was the feature back, and a good one at that, while Ga had 2 high profile high draft pick backs. And 3 when you factor in the beginning of college careers with Gurley there. Again, taking nothing away from either one, but to be taken seriously you have to use the same rules.

Another point with the all purpose yards is that since Barkley was a returner, that adds a chunk to it. A bad KR average would be 20 yards.

It also hurts your case when you leave yourself NO margin of area. When you use words such as THE best, instead of one of, or 100%. It is just not true that 100% that ANYONE in this draft is certain to go 1 or 2.

Last thing I will say for now is that it will be harder now for defenders to tackle ANYONE. BUT, if you watch and know football then you know that A LOT of the initial helmet contact comes from ball carrier, which is also now illegal. So everyone will have to adjust their game.

Now, I will say one thing about Barkley. Not saying it's a TERRIBLE thing, but from a recent interview, he isn't the most humble person in the world. He isn't perfect acting like you hinted at. I know all these guys have egos, but his character doesn't seem as good as Larry Fitzgerald. While probably true, for every thing he didn't perform as good as thought at combine he had an excuse. I dont remember the other thing he said that sounded a little off, but just shows he isn't perfect.

If the Browns take him 1,4, 253 then I hope he turns out what you have said and more.