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How Can/Will The Browns Blow It? Or Not?

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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    So.....the real question on the Board for Browns fans....who now have endured like 18 years of the effluvia that has been Browns personnel  departments is:

    How will the Browns Blow this draft?   That is what we all believe.  Admit it.     

    But....in addition to that question.....I will allow you all to take the side that we all have hoped we could say for a generation now:

    How will the Browns nail this draft?

    So....give your answer.    What 2-3 moves can the Browns make to  (typically)   Fuhuck this thing up completely.     Or, what can they do to (finally)  hit draft pay dirt?

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      I'm not particularly sure.. New people in the front office.. Id say they need a chance to prove themselves.. Just Keep Hue,Jimmy and Dee out of the waroom... Let Dorsey and staff do they're thing.. And see where it all shakes out.. I'm vehemently against drafting Barkley or Allen #1...

      My gut feeling is they will reach on someone none of us are zeroing in on.. "BLECH"

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        Blow it?     Have their choice of QB  at #1 overall be the second coming of very high bust QBs like:   Leaf,  Russell,  Harrington. Akili  Smith, Heath Shuler,  David Carr, RGIII or the like.

        Have their #4 pick  end up being a bust on the order of the likes of Trev Albert, Courtney Brown, Dion Jordan, Charles Rogers, Curtis Enis, Kijana Carter, Aaron Curry, Trent Richardson, Justin Blackmon, Justin Gilbert.

        How can they nail it:

        Have #1 be the next coming or Peyton Manning.....or Eli would be OK....or Phil Rivers...or even Carson Palmer or Matt Ryan or Cam Newton, or Andrew Luck...without the injury problem.

        And have their #4 end up being the next LaDanian Tomlinson, or Marshall Faulk...(if it were Barkley)... or Julius Pepper or Junior Seau

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          So.....the real question on the Board for Browns fans....who now have endured like 18 years of the effluvia that has been Browns personnel  departments is:

          How will the Browns Blow this draft?   That is what we all believe.  Admit it.     

          But....in addition to that question.....I will allow you all to take the side that we all have hoped we could say for a generation now:

          How will the Browns nail this draft?

          So....give your answer.    What 2-3 moves can the Browns make to  (typically)   Fuhuck this thing up completely.     Or, what can they do to (finally)  hit draft pay dirt?

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          jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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          @the-gipper said:

          So.....the real question on the Board for Browns fans....who now have endured like 18 years of the effluvia that has been Browns personnel  departments is:

          How will the Browns Blow this draft?

          1. Drafting Allen as their future QB

          2. Trading down from the #1 pick to accumulate more picks

          3. Letting Hue, Jimmah or another random homeless person override Dorsey when making draft picks.

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            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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            Allen, Mayfield or Barkley at all would be blowing it. 

            Not? Rosen, then BPA at 4 unless the trade down is minor and they can secure Ward a few pics later. 

            Also Benkert mid/late round would be hot. 

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              Allen, Mayfield or Barkley at all would be blowing it. 

              Not? Rosen, then BPA at 4 unless the trade down is minor and they can secure Ward a few pics later. 

              Also Benkert mid/late round would be hot. 

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              jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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              @tiamat63 said:

              Allen, Mayfield or Barkley at all would be blowing it. 

              Not? Rosen, then BPA at 4 unless the trade down is minor and they can secure Ward a few pics later. 

              Also Benkert mid/late round would be hot. 

              Idk. I can meet you halfway by saying that taking Barkley #1 overall - at the expense of drafting Darnold or Rosen - would be a waste, but a Rosen/Darnold @ #1 and Barkley @ #4 would be a pretty good first round in my book. Barkley is a beast of a RB

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                @tiamat63 said:

                Allen, Mayfield or Barkley at all would be blowing it. 

                Not? Rosen, then BPA at 4 unless the trade down is minor and they can secure Ward a few pics later. 

                Also Benkert mid/late round would be hot. 

                Idk. I can meet you halfway by saying that taking Barkley #1 overall - at the expense of drafting Darnold or Rosen - would be a waste, but a Rosen/Darnold @ #1 and Barkley @ #4 would be a pretty good first round in my book. Barkley is a beast of a RB

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                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                @jbluhm86 said:

                Idk. I can meet you halfway by saying that taking Barkley #1 overall - at the expense of drafting Darnold or Rosen - would be a waste, but a Rosen/Darnold @ #1 and Barkley @ #4 would be a pretty good first round in my book. Barkley is a beast of a RB

                Barkley up the middle would replace Metcalf up the middle. 

                Leggo 

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                  @jbluhm86 said:

                  Idk. I can meet you halfway by saying that taking Barkley #1 overall - at the expense of drafting Darnold or Rosen - would be a waste, but a Rosen/Darnold @ #1 and Barkley @ #4 would be a pretty good first round in my book. Barkley is a beast of a RB

                  Barkley up the middle would replace Metcalf up the middle. 

                  Leggo 

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @tiamat63 said:

                  Barkley up the middle would replace Metcalf up the middle. 

                  Leggo 

                  Oi!

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                    So.....the real question on the Board for Browns fans....who now have endured like 18 years of the effluvia that has been Browns personnel  departments is:

                    How will the Browns Blow this draft?   That is what we all believe.  Admit it.     

                    But....in addition to that question.....I will allow you all to take the side that we all have hoped we could say for a generation now:

                    How will the Browns nail this draft?

                    So....give your answer.    What 2-3 moves can the Browns make to  (typically)   Fuhuck this thing up completely.     Or, what can they do to (finally)  hit draft pay dirt?

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                    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                    @the-gipper said:

                    How will the Browns nail this draft?

                    So....give your answer.    What 2-3 moves can the Browns make to  (typically)   Fuhuck this thing up completely.     Or, what can they do to (finally)  hit draft pay dirt?

                    I see Chubb off the board at 2. so #1-QB..#4 am out unless Bills can give me #6 Colts or #9 49ers. with the Bills #12 pick 😛 (bills #22 to far to slide back) we come out with Mikah or Ward (both a need) and LT big Mike McGlinchey (higher upside the S. Coleman imo)  

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                      Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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                      I’ve been dreading this question for weeks?

                      i just keep thinking about Hue taking Corey Coleman and passing on blue chip players again. Bosa & Elliot we’re ours for the taking. It’s water under the bridge now but still painful to see Wentz, Goff, Prescott and Deshaun Watson not only starting, but having success. 

                      Im praying for a franchise QB at #1 as long as it’s not Mayfield (Manziel 2.0) I do realize this class is not as good as previous years but with the new rookie contracts at least teams don’t need to break the bank.

                      If what Hue says is true then whomever  they chose won’t be starting right away so why not take Josh Allen at number 1 and Bradley Chubb at number 4

                      i could handle Darnold and Barkley also.

                      whatever happens, I pray Dorsey doesn’t trade back to aquire future picks! It hasn’t worked.

                      Best Players available are unarguably; Saquon Barkley, Bradley Chub, Quentin Nelson, Minkah Fitzpatrick, and a few others who could make an impact right away.

                      When looking at the last few drafts, I actually would draft Barkley, Chub and Lamar Jackson even tho I don’t think Browns personnel is capable of developing a guy who could definitely be this years Deshaun Watson. 

                      So realistically I think (providing they don’t make a trade) at #1 Darnold, at # 4 Chubb

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        What up, Opal!

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                          GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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                          The Browns WILL blow this draft just as they blew last year's draft, and pretty much every draft since V 2.0 in 1999.

                          The Browns, and their fans, are vomitously opposed, repelled and disoriented by the thought of taking playmakers, more importantly, players who make a difference on the field. Joe Thomas was perhaps the biggest example of how to waste a draft pick because for all he supposedly was, he didn't demonstrably make the Browns better.

                          Garrett? never will be a difference maker. Coleman? Had the chance to help us beat the Steelers and he dropped the pass. Does it not ever dawn on you guys that the Browns never are in a highlight film where one of our players saved the day....made the winning score.....stopped the opposition from winning? Never............. NEVER. All you dickheads ever do is create fantasy narratives in which our players are so far superior, that they are doing things on the field that, while not producing points and wins, are doing things that in the long run that everyone else is just too dumb to understand.

                          Barkley is the pick of this draft. The Browns have the ability to get him, And the QB they want.

                          Hue wants Black Lamarkenton.

                          The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
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                          • GhoolieG Ghoolie

                            The Browns WILL blow this draft just as they blew last year's draft, and pretty much every draft since V 2.0 in 1999.

                            The Browns, and their fans, are vomitously opposed, repelled and disoriented by the thought of taking playmakers, more importantly, players who make a difference on the field. Joe Thomas was perhaps the biggest example of how to waste a draft pick because for all he supposedly was, he didn't demonstrably make the Browns better.

                            Garrett? never will be a difference maker. Coleman? Had the chance to help us beat the Steelers and he dropped the pass. Does it not ever dawn on you guys that the Browns never are in a highlight film where one of our players saved the day....made the winning score.....stopped the opposition from winning? Never............. NEVER. All you dickheads ever do is create fantasy narratives in which our players are so far superior, that they are doing things on the field that, while not producing points and wins, are doing things that in the long run that everyone else is just too dumb to understand.

                            Barkley is the pick of this draft. The Browns have the ability to get him, And the QB they want.

                            Hue wants Black Lamarkenton.

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                            T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                            @ghoolie said:

                            Does it not ever dawn on you guys that the Browns never are in a highlight film where one of our players saved the day....made the winning score.....stopped the opposition from winning? Never............. NEVER.

                            LOL! Tom, has it dawned on you that there would not be any such highlight when you have zero wins in a season and the only such highlight for the 1-15 season was Josh Lambo's miss of the winning FG for the Chargers in 2016?😆

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                              How could they blow it?   They could trade out of #1 and let someone else have their QB pick of the litter.   And then pick a bum at #22.  ORrrrr...they could pick Manziel 2.0 and he turns out to be a Socky jerk.  ORrrr they take Allen and he turns out to be Derrick Anderson, throwing at player's feet when they're crossing the field 5 yards in front of him.

                              Other side of coin:  They could pick the best QB (Rosen, Darnold) and stay put and pick Chubb (this covers for Garrett...and we get a RB later)  ORrrr....they can go ahead and pick Barkley at 4 so that the Ghoul doesn't come out spitting venom.  ( I won't be able to greatly fault a Barkley choice at 4 because our offense has been so lousy ).

                              Excuse me, moderators, why can't we say the word Socky?  (as in kocky).  

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                                How could they blow it?   They could trade out of #1 and let someone else have their QB pick of the litter.   And then pick a bum at #22.  ORrrrr...they could pick Manziel 2.0 and he turns out to be a Socky jerk.  ORrrr they take Allen and he turns out to be Derrick Anderson, throwing at player's feet when they're crossing the field 5 yards in front of him.

                                Other side of coin:  They could pick the best QB (Rosen, Darnold) and stay put and pick Chubb (this covers for Garrett...and we get a RB later)  ORrrr....they can go ahead and pick Barkley at 4 so that the Ghoul doesn't come out spitting venom.  ( I won't be able to greatly fault a Barkley choice at 4 because our offense has been so lousy ).

                                Excuse me, moderators, why can't we say the word Socky?  (as in kocky).  

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                                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                                @orion said:

                                Other side of coin: 

                                Ghoolie the Poo 😛

                                that ain't honey he's full of..  

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                                  The Browns WILL blow this draft just as they blew last year's draft, and pretty much every draft since V 2.0 in 1999.

                                  The Browns, and their fans, are vomitously opposed, repelled and disoriented by the thought of taking playmakers, more importantly, players who make a difference on the field. Joe Thomas was perhaps the biggest example of how to waste a draft pick because for all he supposedly was, he didn't demonstrably make the Browns better.

                                  Garrett? never will be a difference maker. Coleman? Had the chance to help us beat the Steelers and he dropped the pass. Does it not ever dawn on you guys that the Browns never are in a highlight film where one of our players saved the day....made the winning score.....stopped the opposition from winning? Never............. NEVER. All you dickheads ever do is create fantasy narratives in which our players are so far superior, that they are doing things on the field that, while not producing points and wins, are doing things that in the long run that everyone else is just too dumb to understand.

                                  Barkley is the pick of this draft. The Browns have the ability to get him, And the QB they want.

                                  Hue wants Black Lamarkenton.

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                                  Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                  @ghoolie said:

                                  The Browns WILL blow this draft just as they blew last year's draft, and pretty much every draft since V 2.0 in 1999.

                                  The Browns, and their fans, are vomitously opposed, repelled and disoriented by the thought of taking playmakers, more importantly, players who make a difference on the field. Joe Thomas was perhaps the biggest example of how to waste a draft pick because for all he supposedly was, he didn't demonstrably make the Browns better.

                                  Garrett? never will be a difference maker. Coleman? Had the chance to help us beat the Steelers and he dropped the pass. Does it not ever dawn on you guys that the Browns never are in a highlight film where one of our players saved the day....made the winning score.....stopped the opposition from winning? Never............. NEVER. All you dickheads ever do is create fantasy narratives in which our players are so far superior, that they are doing things on the field that, while not producing points and wins, are doing things that in the long run that everyone else is just too dumb to understand.

                                  Barkley is the pick of this draft. The Browns have the ability to get him, And the QB they want.

                                  Hue wants Black Lamarkenton.

                                  If the Browns could just draft a player like the legend that is Paxton Lynch. 

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                                    GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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                                    Well, they have..............Manziel, Frye, Hogan, Kizer, Quinn, oops............... I forgot................. Lynch is still playing in the NFL. 

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                                      Well, they have..............Manziel, Frye, Hogan, Kizer, Quinn, oops............... I forgot................. Lynch is still playing in the NFL. 

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                                      @ghoolie said:

                                      Well, they have..............Manziel, Frye, Hogan, Kizer, Quinn, oops............... I forgot................. Lynch is still playing in the NFL. 

                                      Playing? Well he occupies a space (for now).

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                                        @ghoolie said:

                                        Does it not ever dawn on you guys that the Browns never are in a highlight film where one of our players saved the day....made the winning score.....stopped the opposition from winning? Never............. NEVER.

                                        LOL! Tom, has it dawned on you that there would not be any such highlight when you have zero wins in a season and the only such highlight for the 1-15 season was Josh Lambo's miss of the winning FG for the Chargers in 2016?😆

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                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        LOL! Tom, has it dawned on you that there would not be any such highlight when you have zero wins in a season and the only such highlight for the 1-15 season was Josh Lambo's miss of the winning FG for the Chargers in 2016?😆

                                        Yes, this is what I am talking about. They have been in position many times to win, but this drafting philosophy of not taking play makers because they are too expensive for our sinsibility, or because they were taken with trade down asset addition,,,,,,you basically have schidt players. I expect the same kind of draft to save Haslam money.

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                                          @ghoolie said:

                                          Well, they have..............Manziel, Frye, Hogan, Kizer, Quinn, oops............... I forgot................. Lynch is still playing in the NFL. 

                                          Playing? Well he occupies a space (for now).

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                                          @texasag1969 said:

                                          Playing? Well he occupies a space (for now).

                                          And who here would not LOVE to be in that position?

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