40 years Worth of #1 Overall QBs
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Kinda makes me like our odds...
Rk Year 1 2016 Jared Goff 2 2015 Jameis Winston 3 2012 Andrew Luck 4 2011 Cam Newton 5 2010 Sam Bradford 6 2009 Matthew Stafford 7 2007 JaMarcus Russell 8 2005 Alex Smith 9 2004 Eli Manning 10 2003 Carson Palmer 11 2002 David Carr 12 2001 Michael Vick 13 1999 Tim Couch 14 1998 Peyton Manning 15 1993 Drew Bledsoe 16 1990 Jeff George 17 1989 Troy Aikman HOF 18 1987 Vinny Testaverde "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Hopefully we avoid the next David Carr!
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I give Carr and Couch passes due to major cases of NFLexpandiinitis...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Jamarcus Russell was just to stupid
... or talented. He was just such an outstanding athlete at every level he never had to work at his craft. When he met his match in the NFL it was too late.
Jeff George is the one that really mystifies and frustrates me. He threw the prettiest ball I think I've ever seen. He just never mastered the position for whatever reason.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Kinda makes me like our odds...
Rk Year 1 2016 Jared Goff 2 2015 Jameis Winston 3 2012 Andrew Luck 4 2011 Cam Newton 5 2010 Sam Bradford 6 2009 Matthew Stafford 7 2007 JaMarcus Russell 8 2005 Alex Smith 9 2004 Eli Manning 10 2003 Carson Palmer 11 2002 David Carr 12 2001 Michael Vick 13 1999 Tim Couch 14 1998 Peyton Manning 15 1993 Drew Bledsoe 16 1990 Jeff George 17 1989 Troy Aikman HOF 18 1987 Vinny Testaverde Kinda makes me like our odds...
Rk Year 1 2016 Jared Goff 2 2015 Jameis Winston 3 2012 Andrew Luck 4 2011 Cam Newton 5 2010 Sam Bradford 6 2009 Matthew Stafford 7 2007 JaMarcus Russell 8 2005 Alex Smith 9 2004 Eli Manning 10 2003 Carson Palmer 11 2002 David Carr 12 2001 Michael Vick 13 1999 Tim Couch 14 1998 Peyton Manning 15 1993 Drew Bledsoe 16 1990 Jeff George 17 1989 Troy Aikman HOF 18 1987 Vinny Testaverde The Browns fan in me says "there have been no straight out busts since 2007 ... Oh no, we're due for one!"
But the optimist in me says we finally grab the guy that surpasses all expectations and makes the 23 years in the desert worth the wait.
Jeff George had a great arm but didn't play well with others and clashed with authority. Not good traits for a QB.
Zombo
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If I could of picked any of those for the Browns it would of been Luck, Newton, Eli, Palmer, Peyton, Aikman
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Kinda makes me like our odds...
Rk Year 1 2016 Jared Goff 2 2015 Jameis Winston 3 2012 Andrew Luck 4 2011 Cam Newton 5 2010 Sam Bradford 6 2009 Matthew Stafford 7 2007 JaMarcus Russell 8 2005 Alex Smith 9 2004 Eli Manning 10 2003 Carson Palmer 11 2002 David Carr 12 2001 Michael Vick 13 1999 Tim Couch 14 1998 Peyton Manning 15 1993 Drew Bledsoe 16 1990 Jeff George 17 1989 Troy Aikman HOF 18 1987 Vinny Testaverde Kinda makes me like our odds...
Rk Year 1 2016 Jared Goff 2 2015 Jameis Winston 3 2012 Andrew Luck 4 2011 Cam Newton 5 2010 Sam Bradford 6 2009 Matthew Stafford 7 2007 JaMarcus Russell 8 2005 Alex Smith 9 2004 Eli Manning 10 2003 Carson Palmer 11 2002 David Carr 12 2001 Michael Vick 13 1999 Tim Couch 14 1998 Peyton Manning 15 1993 Drew Bledsoe 16 1990 Jeff George 17 1989 Troy Aikman HOF 18 1987 Vinny Testaverde You only went back 30 years. To go 40 you would have also had to pick up John Elway in 1983.
But, my how the worm has turned:
If you take the years between 1977 and 1986 you get this:
1 QB: Elway
1 WR Irving Fryar
1 LB Tom Cousineau
2 DEs: Bruce Smith, Ken Sims
5 RBs: Ricky Bell, Earl Campbell, Billy Sims, George Rogers, Bo Jackson
But yet, now, we have not had a RB taken #1 overall in like 21 years.
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Jamarcus Russell was just to stupid
... or talented. He was just such an outstanding athlete at every level he never had to work at his craft. When he met his match in the NFL it was too late.
Jeff George is the one that really mystifies and frustrates me. He threw the prettiest ball I think I've ever seen. He just never mastered the position for whatever reason.
... or talented. He was just such an outstanding athlete at every level he never had to work at his craft. When he met his match in the NFL it was too late.
Jeff George is the one that really mystifies and frustrates me. He threw the prettiest ball I think I've ever seen. He just never mastered the position for whatever reason.
Scot Mitchell and Jay Schroeder fall into that category as well as Jeff George...
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Also, just FYI......the #1 overall pick has been either a QB, DE or OT every single year since 1996
1996 Last WR taken #1 overall: Keyshawn Johnson, WR
1995 was the last year a RB was #1: Kijana Carter.
1994 was the last year a DT was #1: Dan Wilkinson
1988 was the last year a LB (outside or inside) was taken #1: Aundray Bruce
1956 was the last year a DB was taken #1: Gary Glick
1948 was the last year an OC was taken #1: Chuck Bednarik.....listed as OC/LB
NO TE or OG has ever been taken #1
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Also, just FYI......the #1 overall pick has been either a QB, DE or OT every single year since 1996
1996 Last WR taken #1 overall: Keyshawn Johnson, WR
1995 was the last year a RB was #1: Kijana Carter.
1994 was the last year a DT was #1: Dan Wilkinson
1988 was the last year a LB (outside or inside) was taken #1: Aundray Bruce
1956 was the last year a DB was taken #1: Gary Glick
1948 was the last year an OC was taken #1: Chuck Bednarik.....listed as OC/LB
NO TE or OG has ever been taken #1
Also, just FYI......the #1 overall pick has been either a QB, DE or OT every single year since 1996
1996 Last WR taken #1 overall: Keyshawn Johnson, WR
1995 was the last year a RB was #1: Kijana Carter.
1994 was the last year a DT was #1: Dan Wilkinson
1988 was the last year a LB (outside or inside) was taken #1: Aundray Bruce
1956 was the last year a DB was taken #1: Gary Glick
1948 was the last year an OC was taken #1: Chuck Bednarik.....listed as OC/LB
NO TE or OG has ever been taken #1
Oh god that's a scary list. I guess the best picks at #1 are the true skill (QB) or biggest need positions (DE or OT).
I wonder how the 2018 quarterback class will stack up over time? Ahhhh, that's why we love Draft Days!
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Also, just FYI......the #1 overall pick has been either a QB, DE or OT every single year since 1996
1996 Last WR taken #1 overall: Keyshawn Johnson, WR
1995 was the last year a RB was #1: Kijana Carter.
1994 was the last year a DT was #1: Dan Wilkinson
1988 was the last year a LB (outside or inside) was taken #1: Aundray Bruce
1956 was the last year a DB was taken #1: Gary Glick
1948 was the last year an OC was taken #1: Chuck Bednarik.....listed as OC/LB
NO TE or OG has ever been taken #1
Oh god that's a scary list. I guess the best picks at #1 are the true skill (QB) or biggest need positions (DE or OT).
I wonder how the 2018 quarterback class will stack up over time? Ahhhh, that's why we love Draft Days!
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Here are a few other notes:
Of the 82 #1 overall picks since 1936, (not including AFL) 13 of them are in the HOF now. Or 15.8%. There is also one certain HOF not yet eligible: Peyton Manning....and a couple of borderline: Eli Manning/Carson Palmer.
Plus, it is too early to tell likely about the last 10 or so: there could be 1 or 2: Newton looking the best so far.
The percentage would go up when you consider that two of the AFL Drafts #1 overall picks are also in the HOF:
1963 Buck Buchanan
1965 Joe Namath
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And that list of #1 overall going into the HOF:
Bill Dudley
Charley Trippi
Chuck Bednarik
Paul Hornung
Ron Yary
OJ Simpson
Terry Bradshaw
Leroy Selmon
Earl Campbell
John Elway
Bruce Smith
Troy Aikman
Orlando Pace
Plus Namath and Buchanan from AFL
Green = QB
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A lot of non-QBs in that list for a QB thread...
Speaking of QB lists here's an interesting one in a reddit post...
Speaking of unteachable size/throwing velocity, here's your list of 6'4"+ QBs who threw the ball 59+ mph at a combine or pro day:
Colin Kaepernick, Brandon Weeden, Tyler Bray, Logan Thomas, Cardale Jones (61 mph on sports science), Paxton Lynch, Davis Webb, Josh Rosen, and Josh Allen (62 mph)
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Here are the teams that have, in the past selected multiple QBs with the #1 overall pick:
Baltimore/Indy Colts: 5 QBs: George Shaw, John Elway, Jeff George, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck
LA/St. Louis Rams: 4 QBs: Bill Wade, Terry Baker, Sam Bradford, Jared Goff
Tampa Bay Bucs: 2 QBs: Vinny Testaverde, Jameis Winston
New England Patriots: 2 QBs: Jim Plunkett, Drew Bledsoe
Green Bay Packers: 2 QBs?: Randy Duncan...and Paul Hornung...listed as a QB coming out of college but played RB in the pros
Atlanta Falcons: 2 QBs: Steve Bartkowski, Michael Vick
Cleveland Browns: 2 QBs...so far: Bobby Garrett, Tim Couch. They will likely become the third team in history to have picked 3 or more with #1.
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A lot of non-QBs in that list for a QB thread...
Speaking of QB lists here's an interesting one in a reddit post...
Speaking of unteachable size/throwing velocity, here's your list of 6'4"+ QBs who threw the ball 59+ mph at a combine or pro day:
Colin Kaepernick, Brandon Weeden, Tyler Bray, Logan Thomas, Cardale Jones (61 mph on sports science), Paxton Lynch, Davis Webb, Josh Rosen, and Josh Allen (62 mph)
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Here is the breakdown of positions of the #1 overall picks (NFL only):
OC: 1.5 (Bednarik)
DB: 1
DE: 11
DT: 3
WR/E: 5
OT: 4
LB: 3.5 (Bednarik)
FB/HB/RB: 22
QB: 31
As highlighted earlier....of the 31 QBs taken #1....only 3 from the NFL draft had made the HOF: Bradshaw/Elway/Aikman...plus another certain will come: Peyton (plus Namath from AFL)
Of the 22 RBs, 5 have made HOF: Campbell, OJ, Dudley, Trippi, Hornung
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A lot of non-QBs in that list for a QB thread...
Speaking of QB lists here's an interesting one in a reddit post...
Speaking of unteachable size/throwing velocity, here's your list of 6'4"+ QBs who threw the ball 59+ mph at a combine or pro day:
Colin Kaepernick, Brandon Weeden, Tyler Bray, Logan Thomas, Cardale Jones (61 mph on sports science), Paxton Lynch, Davis Webb, Josh Rosen, and Josh Allen (62 mph)
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