From nobody to the top of the first round of the draft - Josh Allen
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And the anti-Rosen bitching from you is not?
It is....to me. Along with the anti-Allen bitching. So.....to remedy things, I suggest you stay off this board for the next 16 days. They you won't have to read what you don't like, and we don't have to read from you what we don't like.
We all win.
(and remember....I have said that this is just like the 2011 group......Locker/Ponder/Gabbert bunch.......a bunch of backup QBs of that ilk)
you promise to leave permanently, I'll think about it. Yes, both sides have been boring, but I never started the fire. Hoopla and his little angry complainiers did.
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And the anti-Rosen bitching from you is not?
It is....to me. Along with the anti-Allen bitching. So.....to remedy things, I suggest you stay off this board for the next 16 days. They you won't have to read what you don't like, and we don't have to read from you what we don't like.
We all win.
(and remember....I have said that this is just like the 2011 group......Locker/Ponder/Gabbert bunch.......a bunch of backup QBs of that ilk)
you promise to leave permanently, I'll think about it. Yes, both sides have been boring, but I never started the fire. Hoopla and his little angry complainiers did.
but I never started the fire.
So what you're saying is... You didn't start the fire. Didn't light it - though you tried to fight it? Is that about right ?
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Why? Which God do you believe in, if any?
And why is that any worse really than talking about all these Quarterbacks?
Doesn't matter, people tend to get all apocalyptic when that stuff is brought up. I'd rather talk about sports.....or food.
Doesn't matter, people tend to get all apocalyptic when that stuff is brought up. I'd rather talk about sports.....or food.
Apocalyptic? What happens when one goes apocalyptic? I mean, does like your brain explode?
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And the anti-Rosen bitching from you is not?
It is....to me. Along with the anti-Allen bitching. So.....to remedy things, I suggest you stay off this board for the next 16 days. They you won't have to read what you don't like, and we don't have to read from you what we don't like.
We all win.
(and remember....I have said that this is just like the 2011 group......Locker/Ponder/Gabbert bunch.......a bunch of backup QBs of that ilk)
you promise to leave permanently, I'll think about it. Yes, both sides have been boring, but I never started the fire. Hoopla and his little angry complainiers did.
you promise to leave permanently, I'll think about it. Yes, both sides have been boring, but I never started the fire. Hoopla and his little angry complainiers did.
Me? Why me? I have not been the one complaining about Allen haters or Rosen lovers or the like. I was simply providing you one option on how to relieve your angst and anxiety over this matter: stay off the board until its over.
Though....I guess there is another option: masturbation. Carry on.
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I'm gonna guess auto-corrected apoplectic....
Please send my winnings via PM...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Apocalyptic? What happens when one goes apocalyptic? I mean, does like your brain explode?
Well some people get all......
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
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This thread just gets better and better.
This thread just gets better and better.
It's literally the Parthenon of Stupidity now.
"That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson -
Apocalyptic? What happens when one goes apocalyptic? I mean, does like your brain explode?
Well some people get all......
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
This thread just gets better and better.
It's literally the Parthenon of Stupidity now.
It's literally the Parthenon of Stupidity now.
Well, part of the Mod job is to 1\2 keep the inmates in line. It gets frustrating at times... You just keep pitching- and someone refuses to get the point. Compared to every other forum I've spent time on we're about 5X more BS tolerant here.
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Why am I thinking it is one of the Mad Max movies?
No idea...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Why am I thinking it is one of the Mad Max movies?
No idea...
No idea...
Ahh....Master and Commander. Loved that movie. I thought Russell Crowe should have made more of them. I know he hates to do serial type roles...do not believe he ever has reprised a role....but if there is one where he should...it is Captain Jack Aubrey.
I think he could still do another one...if he hasn't gotten too out of shape. I mean....what has he done lately?
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No idea...
Ahh....Master and Commander. Loved that movie. I thought Russell Crowe should have made more of them. I know he hates to do serial type roles...do not believe he ever has reprised a role....but if there is one where he should...it is Captain Jack Aubrey.
I think he could still do another one...if he hasn't gotten too out of shape. I mean....what has he done lately?
what has he done lately?
The Nice Guys was pretty funny.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
what has he done lately?
The Nice Guys was pretty funny.
The Nice Guys was pretty funny.
I guess he has been busy......just not much noteworthy of late. Not like earlier in his career:
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Fresh article... old perpsective... excerpts below. For full article use the link.
https://www.theringer.com/2018/4/11/17224760/josh-allen-cleveland-browns-analytics-nfl-draft
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Drafting Josh Allen Would End the Browns’ Analytics Era
The numbers indicate that the quarterback shouldn’t be taken anywhere near the top pick, but that hasn’t quieted the Allen-to-Cleveland talk
By Riley McAtee Apr 11, 2018, 12:00pm EDTAllen is the embodiment of an old-fashioned, “stats are for losers” approach to evaluating prospects. While draftniks like Mike Mayock and Mel Kiper Jr. rave about Allen’s prototypical size, arm strength, and raw potential, Allen’s production in college gives no indication that he will be a franchise quarterback in the pros. As far as statistical models go, there isn’t a single one that projects Allen as even a first-round pick, much less the top overall player in the draft. And it’s not just his much-maligned completion percentage—let’s take a look under the hood.Comparing 2018 QB Prospects
Player QBASE DYAR Projection Rosen-Olbrecht PFF "NFL Throws" Bill Connelly Success Rate IQR Final-Year QBR Passing S&P+ Baker Mayfield 1st 3rd 2nd 1st 1st 1st 1st Sam Darnold 4th 1st 1st 2nd 6th 4th 2nd Josh Rosen 3rd 2nd 4th 6th 5th 5th 5th Mason Rudolph 5th 6th 3rd 3rd 2nd 3rd 4th Lamar Jackson 2nd 5th 6th 5th 4th 2nd 3rd Luke Falk 6th 7th N/A 4th 3rd 6th 6th Josh Allen 7th 4th 5th 7th 7th 7th 7th And to be fair to Allen, while the advanced stats don’t look great, no one can say for sure whether he’ll pan out or be a bust. Stats may not be for losers, but no one would argue that numbers alone make an NFL quarterback. If Allen can piece together his immense talent, he could be the next Brett Favre. If not, he’ll be the next Jake Locker. But in order to draft him no. 1 overall, the Browns would have to ignore every statistical analysis imaginable. As far as analytics go, it’d be the end of the Process in Cleveland.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Fresh article... old perpsective... excerpts below. For full article use the link.
https://www.theringer.com/2018/4/11/17224760/josh-allen-cleveland-browns-analytics-nfl-draft
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Drafting Josh Allen Would End the Browns’ Analytics Era
The numbers indicate that the quarterback shouldn’t be taken anywhere near the top pick, but that hasn’t quieted the Allen-to-Cleveland talk
By Riley McAtee Apr 11, 2018, 12:00pm EDTAllen is the embodiment of an old-fashioned, “stats are for losers” approach to evaluating prospects. While draftniks like Mike Mayock and Mel Kiper Jr. rave about Allen’s prototypical size, arm strength, and raw potential, Allen’s production in college gives no indication that he will be a franchise quarterback in the pros. As far as statistical models go, there isn’t a single one that projects Allen as even a first-round pick, much less the top overall player in the draft. And it’s not just his much-maligned completion percentage—let’s take a look under the hood.Comparing 2018 QB Prospects
Player QBASE DYAR Projection Rosen-Olbrecht PFF "NFL Throws" Bill Connelly Success Rate IQR Final-Year QBR Passing S&P+ Baker Mayfield 1st 3rd 2nd 1st 1st 1st 1st Sam Darnold 4th 1st 1st 2nd 6th 4th 2nd Josh Rosen 3rd 2nd 4th 6th 5th 5th 5th Mason Rudolph 5th 6th 3rd 3rd 2nd 3rd 4th Lamar Jackson 2nd 5th 6th 5th 4th 2nd 3rd Luke Falk 6th 7th N/A 4th 3rd 6th 6th Josh Allen 7th 4th 5th 7th 7th 7th 7th And to be fair to Allen, while the advanced stats don’t look great, no one can say for sure whether he’ll pan out or be a bust. Stats may not be for losers, but no one would argue that numbers alone make an NFL quarterback. If Allen can piece together his immense talent, he could be the next Brett Favre. If not, he’ll be the next Jake Locker. But in order to draft him no. 1 overall, the Browns would have to ignore every statistical analysis imaginable. As far as analytics go, it’d be the end of the Process in Cleveland.
And to be fair to Allen, while the advanced stats don’t look great, no one can say for sure whether he’ll pan out or be a bust. Stats may not be for losers, but no one would argue that numbers alone make an NFL quarterback. If Allen can piece together his immense talent, he could be the next Brett Favre. If not, he’ll be the next Jake Locker. But in order to draft him no. 1 overall, the Browns would have to ignore every statistical analysis imaginable. As far as analytics go, it’d be the end of the Process in Cleveland.
I sure hope the guys in Berea are looking past the rocket launcher arm. The article had the stat I was interested in seeing. Josh broke the 60 mph barrier at the combine posting a record 62, as Palmer predicted he would...
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