From nobody to the top of the first round of the draft - Josh Allen
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I’ll take QB A.
You say that now only because you know who QB A is.
But....the fact is....Nick Stevens may in fact be the better QB coming out of the MW conference.
Nick Stevens college stats:
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Passing Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Career Colorado State 638 1031 61.9 8554 8.3 8.5 70 27 148.7 *2014 Colorado State MWC FR QB 5 15 25 60.0 136 5.4 6.2 1 0 118.9 *2015 Colorado State MWC SO QB 13 210 346 60.7 2678 7.7 7.4 21 12 138.8 *2016 Colorado State MWC JR QB 10 129 201 64.2 1936 9.6 10.4 19 5 171.3 *2017 Colorado State MWC SR QB 13 284 459 61.9 3804 8.3 8.6 29 10 148.0 Josh Allen college stats:
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Passing Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Career Wyoming 365 649 56.2 5066 7.8 7.7 44 21 137.7 2015 Wyoming MWC SO QB 2 4 6 66.7 51 8.5 8.5 0 0 138.1 *2016 Wyoming MWC SO QB 14 209 373 56.0 3203 8.6 8.3 28 15 144.9 *2017 Wyoming MWC JR QB 11 152 270 56.3 1812 6.7 6.9 16 6 127.8 I think it is pretty fair to compare these two guys because they played against the same competition at the same time.
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Yes, and Maurice Jones-Drew on NFLN had the Browns taking Saquon Barkley at #1, totally passing on a QB. Charlie Casserly and Jeremiah still say Darnold. Mel? Has been mocking Allen to the Browns for a month. If Depodesta has any input at all left in Berea, it will be anyone but Allen. If you bothered to look at the advanced metrics link, Josh is about seventh in QB rank.
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If we don't take Allen, Mel Kiper may be the only person on earth who will be more upset with the Browns than cal.
Unsurprisingly Mel also took Allen for us in his "Grade A Draft" out yesterday.
His rationale was that we need to "swing for the fences". Yes, he actually said that.
My out loud response to the TV was, "Guys who swing for the fences tend to strike out a lot."
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Yes, and Maurice Jones-Drew on NFLN had the Browns taking Saquon Barkley at #1, totally passing on a QB. Charlie Casserly and Jeremiah still say Darnold. Mel? Has been mocking Allen to the Browns for a month. If Depodesta has any input at all left in Berea, it will be anyone but Allen. If you bothered to look at the advanced metrics link, Josh is about seventh in QB rank.
Yes, and Maurice Jones-Drew on NFLN had the Browns taking Saquon Barkley at #1, totally passing on a QB. Charlie Casserly and Jeremiah still say Darnold. Mel? Has been mocking Allen to the Browns for a month. If Depodesta has any input at all left in Berea, it will be anyone but Allen. If you bothered to look at the advanced metrics link, Josh is about seventh in QB rank.
I don't think MJD has a grip on this draft thing.
MGD?
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If we don't take Allen, Mel Kiper may be the only person on earth who will be more upset with the Browns than cal.
Unsurprisingly Mel also took Allen for us in his "Grade A Draft" out yesterday.
His rationale was that we need to "swing for the fences". Yes, he actually said that.
My out loud response to the TV was, "Guys who swing for the fences tend to strike out a lot."
If we don't take Allen, Mel Kiper may be the only person on earth who will be more upset with the Browns than cal.
Unsurprisingly Mel also took Allen for us in his "Grade A Draft" out yesterday.
His rationale was that we need to "swing for the fences". Yes, he actually said that.
My out loud response to the TV was, "Guys who swing for the fences tend to strike out a lot."
Again, I swear it is because he is a Ravens fan and he wants the Browns to continually strike out, as you say.
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Did someone say Baker Mayfield?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Did someone say Baker Mayfield?????????
I'll keep those barf emojis in mind if we draft Allen.
I’ll take QB A.
Yes, I get it, Allen has prototypical size and ++ arm strength. The perfect guy to have on your roster with time running out able to launch a Hail Mary from your own 25 yard line. Let's just overlook the - - in the accuracy department.
If Allen was 65% in the completion department he'd be the consensus #1. OTOH- the guy you're hating on, Baker Mayfield would be the consensus #1 if he was 2" taller.
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If we don't take Allen, Mel Kiper may be the only person on earth who will be more upset with the Browns than cal.
Unsurprisingly Mel also took Allen for us in his "Grade A Draft" out yesterday.
His rationale was that we need to "swing for the fences". Yes, he actually said that.
My out loud response to the TV was, "Guys who swing for the fences tend to strike out a lot."
Again, I swear it is because he is a Ravens fan and he wants the Browns to continually strike out, as you say.
Again, I swear it is because he (Kiper) is a Ravens fan and he wants the Browns to continually strike out, as you say.
This time of year I always like to remind folks of Mel's famous pronouncement draft day many years ago... MMMMMMUUUUUSSSSSTTTT draft Hart Lee Dykes.
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Did someone say Baker Mayfield?????????
I'll keep those barf emojis in mind if we draft Allen.
I’ll take QB A.
Yes, I get it, Allen has prototypical size and ++ arm strength. The perfect guy to have on your roster with time running out able to launch a Hail Mary from your own 25 yard line. Let's just overlook the - - in the accuracy department.
If Allen was 65% in the completion department he'd be the consensus #1. OTOH- the guy you're hating on, Baker Mayfield would be the consensus #1 if he was 2" taller.
I'll keep those barf emojis in mind if we draft Allen.
Yes, I get it, Allen has prototypical size and ++ arm strength. The perfect guy to have on your roster with time running out able to launch a Hail Mary from your own 25 yard line. Let's just overlook the - - in the accuracy department.
If Allen was 65% in the completion department he'd be the consensus #1. OTOH- the guy you're hating on, Baker Mayfield would be the consensus #1 if he was 2" taller.
Nick Stevens is no midget. 6'3" 215. Could put on 10 pounds. But, apparently does not have a bazooka arm.
OverviewStevens is highly-respected by teammates for his ability to fight through adversity and come out on the other side as a productive, consistent quarterback. He lacks the build and arm talent of a draftable quarterback, but he does check the accuracy box. He should make it into a camp where he has an outside shot of landing a QB3 spot if he finds the perfect fit.Strengths- Team captain who was able to "grow as a leader" over the past two seasons according to his head coach
- Has experience working from under center with pro-style passing concepts
- Throws with timing outside the hashes to make up for limited arm talent
- Ball placement and accuracy are good
- Plus touch on fades near the goal line
- Throws receivers away from trouble
- Mentally tough
- Benched after atrocious first game of 2016 and has thrown 48 touchdowns to just 13 interceptions since then
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Weaknesses
- Skinny frame with spindly legs
- Not built for NFL pocket violence
- Doesn't carry NFL arm strength
- Unable to generate drive velocity with lower half and everything floats
- Threw poor ratio of 16 touchdowns to nine interceptions on intermediate and deep throws this year
- Instinctive defensive backs will slam his passing windows shut
- Inaccurate on deep sideline throws
- Below average athlete
- Can get happy feet when early reads are covered up
- Sounds Cody Kesslerish to me
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I’ve never really imagined a scenario where we take Allen but after the commitment to Landry today there’s no way on earth this is happening now.
Drafting Josh Allen and his big arm just after paying all that money to a WR that catches short passes would be a sackable offence.
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I’ve never really imagined a scenario where we take Allen but after the commitment to Landry today there’s no way on earth this is happening now.
Drafting Josh Allen and his big arm just after paying all that money to a WR that catches short passes would be a sackable offence.
I’ve never really imagined a scenario where we take Allen but after the commitment to Landry today there’s no way on earth this is happening now.
Drafting Josh Allen and his big arm just after paying all that money to a WR that catches short passes would be a sackable offence.
You act as if the fuyucking money were coming out of your pocket. Who cares about the money as long as the players produce....and it does not hamstring us otherwise...which this does not.
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Did someone say Baker Mayfield?????????
I'll keep those barf emojis in mind if we draft Allen.
I’ll take QB A.
Yes, I get it, Allen has prototypical size and ++ arm strength. The perfect guy to have on your roster with time running out able to launch a Hail Mary from your own 25 yard line. Let's just overlook the - - in the accuracy department.
If Allen was 65% in the completion department he'd be the consensus #1. OTOH- the guy you're hating on, Baker Mayfield would be the consensus #1 if he was 2" taller.
I'll keep those barf emojis in mind if we draft Allen.
Yes, I get it, Allen has prototypical size and ++ arm strength. The perfect guy to have on your roster with time running out able to launch a Hail Mary from your own 25 yard line. Let's just overlook the - - in the accuracy department.
If Allen was 65% in the completion department he'd be the consensus #1. OTOH- the guy you're hating on, Baker Mayfield would be the consensus #1 if he was 2" taller.
That was my original argument for Mayfield and against Allen.
Now I’m flip flopping it. You can improve accuracy, depending on the circumstances. You can’t get taller.
Im a Rosen guy first and foremost. I’m a Darnold guy second and...soremost? Allen is my penultimate prospect of the top 5 TBH.
But at this point, I’m fine with taking Allen if that’s the QB Dorsey wants the most and if he legitimately gets the Rodgers treatment.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
I’ve never really imagined a scenario where we take Allen but after the commitment to Landry today there’s no way on earth this is happening now.
Drafting Josh Allen and his big arm just after paying all that money to a WR that catches short passes would be a sackable offence.
I’ve never really imagined a scenario where we take Allen but after the commitment to Landry today there’s no way on earth this is happening now.
Drafting Josh Allen and his big arm just after paying all that money to a WR that catches short passes would be a sackable offence.
Signing a top ten receiver has no impact on what QB we’re going to take in the draft. None whatsoever.
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I'll keep those barf emojis in mind if we draft Allen.
Yes, I get it, Allen has prototypical size and ++ arm strength. The perfect guy to have on your roster with time running out able to launch a Hail Mary from your own 25 yard line. Let's just overlook the - - in the accuracy department.
If Allen was 65% in the completion department he'd be the consensus #1. OTOH- the guy you're hating on, Baker Mayfield would be the consensus #1 if he was 2" taller.
That was my original argument for Mayfield and against Allen.
Now I’m flip flopping it. You can improve accuracy, depending on the circumstances. You can’t get taller.
Im a Rosen guy first and foremost. I’m a Darnold guy second and...soremost? Allen is my penultimate prospect of the top 5 TBH.
But at this point, I’m fine with taking Allen if that’s the QB Dorsey wants the most and if he legitimately gets the Rodgers treatment.
That was my original argument for Mayfield and against Allen.
Now I’m flip flopping it. You can improve accuracy, depending on the circumstances. You can’t get taller.
Im a Rosen guy first and foremost. I’m a Darnold guy second and...soremost? Allen is my penultimate prospect of the top 5 TBH.
But at this point, I’m fine with taking Allen if that’s the QB Dorsey wants the most and if he legitimately gets the Rodgers treatment.
Like we'll have a choice in who the Browns draft.
My order now is Darnold- Mayfield- Rosen, and hell no to Allen or Jackson. Should Dorsey take Allen he'll have a lot shorter honeymoon in Cleveland if Allen busts. Have to admit in my book- John has done little wrong since he's taken over. Started off on the right foot sending Kenny Britt packing almost immediately.
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allen just seems to have that drive to be a great QB in the league and I believe he would be a great fit sitting behind eli for a couple of years
allen just seems to have that drive to be a great QB in the league and I believe he would be a great fit sitting behind eli for a couple of years
lol... almost did not see what you did there... but for the lil spellcheck squiggly under "eli", I might have missed it.
Saw an Allen interview where he came off well talking about his growing up on a farm/ranch and all... and then it turned to football and all the talk about not having any Div 1 offers... none. Then going JuCo and getting one offer from Wyoming. Again all fine...
And then he tried to go all Brady... said how he "played with a chip on his shoulder"... wanted to "destroy" every school who passed over him... a/k/a "every school". It rang so fukiin hollow the ringing is still in my ears a day later.
This kid has the passion of the oatmeal I had for breakfast... less after I sprinkle on the oatmeal.
He's Mike Phipps 2.0.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
allen just seems to have that drive to be a great QB in the league and I believe he would be a great fit sitting behind eli for a couple of years
lol... almost did not see what you did there... but for the lil spellcheck squiggly under "eli", I might have missed it.
Saw an Allen interview where he came off well talking about his growing up on a farm/ranch and all... and then it turned to football and all the talk about not having any Div 1 offers... none. Then going JuCo and getting one offer from Wyoming. Again all fine...
And then he tried to go all Brady... said how he "played with a chip on his shoulder"... wanted to "destroy" every school who passed over him... a/k/a "every school". It rang so fukiin hollow the ringing is still in my ears a day later.
This kid has the passion of the oatmeal I had for breakfast... less after I sprinkle on the oatmeal.
He's Mike Phipps 2.0.
lol... almost did not see what you did there... but for the lil spellcheck squiggly under "eli", I might have missed it.
Saw an Allen interview where he came off well talking about his growing up on a farm/ranch and all... and then it turned to football and all the talk about not having any Div 1 offers... none. Then going JuCo and getting one offer from Wyoming. Again all fine...
And then he tried to go all Brady... said how he "played with a chip on his shoulder"... wanted to "destroy" every school who passed over him... a/k/a "every school". It rang so fukiin hollow the ringing is still in my ears a day later.
This kid has the passion of the oatmeal I had for breakfast... less after I sprinkle on the oatmeal.
He's Mike Phipps 2.0.
wow Phipps that's harsh man
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found this as a good read coming out of Denver (long'ish) on Mayfield..my believ' is Elway has moved on from Allen also..Next Baker? well ya better get to #2.. https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/4/9/17213706/baker-mayfield-scouting-report
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lol... almost did not see what you did there... but for the lil spellcheck squiggly under "eli", I might have missed it.
Saw an Allen interview where he came off well talking about his growing up on a farm/ranch and all... and then it turned to football and all the talk about not having any Div 1 offers... none. Then going JuCo and getting one offer from Wyoming. Again all fine...
And then he tried to go all Brady... said how he "played with a chip on his shoulder"... wanted to "destroy" every school who passed over him... a/k/a "every school". It rang so fukiin hollow the ringing is still in my ears a day later.
This kid has the passion of the oatmeal I had for breakfast... less after I sprinkle on the oatmeal.
He's Mike Phipps 2.0.
wow Phipps that's harsh man
wow Phipps that's harsh man
It really is.
Apparently Paul Warfield for Mike Phipps didn't work out well for the Orange and Brown.
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