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  • @dutch-oven said:

    No, I can't imagine he said anything of any importance this close to the draft. 

    But here you are in a thread about his presser questioning a point he made 12 minutes and 12 seconds into the video you chose not to watch anyway. 

    He also made it known later in the video that the selection of Mahomes came via committee to shock all those thinking Andy Reid was just a church mouse quiet observer with no say in what QB KC drafted/traded-up for last year.  Some of the reporters with questions sounded like they really needed to hear this especially since 2018 isn't Dorsey's first time he has had to count on the research, teamwork and input of a committee before arriving at a final decision reflective of their Democracy.

    I don't think anyone expected him to announce who he is going to draft at #1 or tip his hand. 

    He let nothing slip in that presser.

    @flugel said:

    But here you are in a thread about his presser questioning a point he made 12 minutes and 12 seconds into the video you chose not to watch anyway. 

    He also made it known later in the video that the selection of Mahomes came via committee to shock all those thinking Andy Reid was just a church mouse quiet observer with no say in what QB KC drafted/traded-up for last year.  Some of the reporters with questions sounded like they really needed to hear this especially since 2018 isn't Dorsey's first time he has had to count on the research, teamwork and input of a committee before arriving at a final decision reflective of their Democracy.

    I don't think anyone expected him to announce who he is going to draft at #1 or tip his hand. 

    Ever worked with a control freak? They tend to believe everyone was onboard with their decisions. Among other things Dorsey was run out of KC because he blindsided everyone with his 2017 draft.

    Most revealing part of the Presser was Dorsey talking about his "democratic" process where he and dissenters meet to discuss their different views. This is where "the one" gets "the many" in line.

  • It's hard for me to fathom the miniscule amount of real information one can glean from any press conference in any area of society but especially Sports.

    😆

    WSS

  • He let nothing slip in that presser.

    @flugel said:

    But here you are in a thread about his presser questioning a point he made 12 minutes and 12 seconds into the video you chose not to watch anyway. 

    He also made it known later in the video that the selection of Mahomes came via committee to shock all those thinking Andy Reid was just a church mouse quiet observer with no say in what QB KC drafted/traded-up for last year.  Some of the reporters with questions sounded like they really needed to hear this especially since 2018 isn't Dorsey's first time he has had to count on the research, teamwork and input of a committee before arriving at a final decision reflective of their Democracy.

    I don't think anyone expected him to announce who he is going to draft at #1 or tip his hand. 

    Ever worked with a control freak? They tend to believe everyone was onboard with their decisions. Among other things Dorsey was run out of KC because he blindsided everyone with his 2017 draft.

    Most revealing part of the Presser was Dorsey talking about his "democratic" process where he and dissenters meet to discuss their different views. This is where "the one" gets "the many" in line.

    @tour2ma said:

    He let nothing slip in that presser.

    Ever worked with a control freak? They tend to believe everyone was onboard with their decisions. Among other things Dorsey was run out of KC because he blindsided everyone with his 2017 draft.

    Most revealing part of the Presser was Dorsey talking about his "democratic" process where he and dissenters meet to discuss their different views. This is where "the one" gets "the many" in line.

    Could it be the "control freak" learned something when he got booted out of KC? Or is it the leopard can't change his spots?  Stay tuned. 

  • He let nothing slip in that presser.

    @flugel said:

    But here you are in a thread about his presser questioning a point he made 12 minutes and 12 seconds into the video you chose not to watch anyway. 

    He also made it known later in the video that the selection of Mahomes came via committee to shock all those thinking Andy Reid was just a church mouse quiet observer with no say in what QB KC drafted/traded-up for last year.  Some of the reporters with questions sounded like they really needed to hear this especially since 2018 isn't Dorsey's first time he has had to count on the research, teamwork and input of a committee before arriving at a final decision reflective of their Democracy.

    I don't think anyone expected him to announce who he is going to draft at #1 or tip his hand. 

    Ever worked with a control freak? They tend to believe everyone was onboard with their decisions. Among other things Dorsey was run out of KC because he blindsided everyone with his 2017 draft.

    Most revealing part of the Presser was Dorsey talking about his "democratic" process where he and dissenters meet to discuss their different views. This is where "the one" gets "the many" in line.

    @tour2ma said:

    He let nothing slip in that presser.

    Ever worked with a control freak? They tend to believe everyone was onboard with their decisions. Among other things Dorsey was run out of KC because he blindsided everyone with his 2017 draft.

    Most revealing part of the Presser was Dorsey talking about his "democratic" process where he and dissenters meet to discuss their different views. This is where "the one" gets "the many" in line.

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  • He let nothing slip in that presser.

    @flugel said:

    But here you are in a thread about his presser questioning a point he made 12 minutes and 12 seconds into the video you chose not to watch anyway. 

    He also made it known later in the video that the selection of Mahomes came via committee to shock all those thinking Andy Reid was just a church mouse quiet observer with no say in what QB KC drafted/traded-up for last year.  Some of the reporters with questions sounded like they really needed to hear this especially since 2018 isn't Dorsey's first time he has had to count on the research, teamwork and input of a committee before arriving at a final decision reflective of their Democracy.

    I don't think anyone expected him to announce who he is going to draft at #1 or tip his hand. 

    Ever worked with a control freak? They tend to believe everyone was onboard with their decisions. Among other things Dorsey was run out of KC because he blindsided everyone with his 2017 draft.

    Most revealing part of the Presser was Dorsey talking about his "democratic" process where he and dissenters meet to discuss their different views. This is where "the one" gets "the many" in line.

    @tour2ma said:

    He let nothing slip in that presser.

    Ever worked with a control freak? They tend to believe everyone was onboard with their decisions. Among other things Dorsey was run out of KC because he blindsided everyone with his 2017 draft.

    Most revealing part of the Presser was Dorsey talking about his "democratic" process where he and dissenters meet to discuss their different views. This is where "the one" gets "the many" in line.

    I am only responsible for what I type - not what you are willing to accept.  I typed Dorsey said in his presser that the selection of Mahomes came via committee.  I'm not the guy you need to picket if that doesn't sit well with you because you think Andy Reid was tied up to a chair with duck tape over his mouth for an entire draft in 2017.  A HUGE reason Andy hand selected KC was he was assured the same power he had in Philly especially the say in what QB his career there would be defined and evaluated by.  My guess is if he hated the Mahomes selection - Alex Smith would have been more than happy to stay where he enjoyed the best years of his career.   People forget Favre and McNabb played in a Veer in college which meant neither were about to be loved by all teams pre-draft before Andy coached them.  This is very similar to the way people/teams viewed the type of college offense Mahomes was coming out of. Andy has a history of being able to work with these types of QBs that other teams were reluctant to consider.  We actually considered Akili Smith more than McNabb for #1 overall while while no 1st round selection was booed louder than McNabb at #2 overall.  Mahomes has a lot of similarities to Favre with arm strength often in spite of mechanics as well as the gunslinger mentality. I think Andy Reid liked Mahomes a lot better than you are willing to accept here.  

    In a draft where there's been a lot of debate over the top 3-4 QB prospects - there's bound to be disagreement among scouts. coaches, and leadership/FO. I would rather see Dorsey VALUE their research, input and evaluation summaries via debate rather than Butch Davis disrespectfully power playing them with 2 middle fingers prior to Gerrard Warren at #3 overall baby!  It looked to me like Highsmith and Wolfe were excited to re-unite with Dorsey.  Would that happen if they didn't think he valued their input?  

    To answer your question - Yes.  I was Head Football Coach for an Athletic Director in the late 80s who was a legendary high school football coach. He just so happened to have a son on the team he hired me to coach. FWIW, I took a program that didn't win a football game in 3 years before I was hired to 2nd place in just my second year.  Sometimes a control freak gets where he is by unparalleled organizational standards such as Nick Saban and Bill Belichick. While Bill Belichick makes all the decisions - he's pretty freakin demanding of all his employees right down to the detail in their scouting reports. Yes HE makes the the final decisions but he counts on those he empowers for research, input and evaluation summaries prior to his final decisions. 

  • for some reason this may not upload but sounds like a consensus to me in KC?  https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article147284164.html  than the new KC GM Brett Veach took C.Erving off our hands & not much better choices from there imo..I also think the Bills are slipping..

  • @tour2ma said:

    He let nothing slip in that presser.

    Ever worked with a control freak? They tend to believe everyone was onboard with their decisions. Among other things Dorsey was run out of KC because he blindsided everyone with his 2017 draft.

    Most revealing part of the Presser was Dorsey talking about his "democratic" process where he and dissenters meet to discuss their different views. This is where "the one" gets "the many" in line.

    I am only responsible for what I type - not what you are willing to accept.  I typed Dorsey said in his presser that the selection of Mahomes came via committee.  I'm not the guy you need to picket if that doesn't sit well with you because you think Andy Reid was tied up to a chair with duck tape over his mouth for an entire draft in 2017.  A HUGE reason Andy hand selected KC was he was assured the same power he had in Philly especially the say in what QB his career there would be defined and evaluated by.  My guess is if he hated the Mahomes selection - Alex Smith would have been more than happy to stay where he enjoyed the best years of his career.   People forget Favre and McNabb played in a Veer in college which meant neither were about to be loved by all teams pre-draft before Andy coached them.  This is very similar to the way people/teams viewed the type of college offense Mahomes was coming out of. Andy has a history of being able to work with these types of QBs that other teams were reluctant to consider.  We actually considered Akili Smith more than McNabb for #1 overall while while no 1st round selection was booed louder than McNabb at #2 overall.  Mahomes has a lot of similarities to Favre with arm strength often in spite of mechanics as well as the gunslinger mentality. I think Andy Reid liked Mahomes a lot better than you are willing to accept here.  

    In a draft where there's been a lot of debate over the top 3-4 QB prospects - there's bound to be disagreement among scouts. coaches, and leadership/FO. I would rather see Dorsey VALUE their research, input and evaluation summaries via debate rather than Butch Davis disrespectfully power playing them with 2 middle fingers prior to Gerrard Warren at #3 overall baby!  It looked to me like Highsmith and Wolfe were excited to re-unite with Dorsey.  Would that happen if they didn't think he valued their input?  

    To answer your question - Yes.  I was Head Football Coach for an Athletic Director in the late 80s who was a legendary high school football coach. He just so happened to have a son on the team he hired me to coach. FWIW, I took a program that didn't win a football game in 3 years before I was hired to 2nd place in just my second year.  Sometimes a control freak gets where he is by unparalleled organizational standards such as Nick Saban and Bill Belichick. While Bill Belichick makes all the decisions - he's pretty freakin demanding of all his employees right down to the detail in their scouting reports. Yes HE makes the the final decisions but he counts on those he empowers for research, input and evaluation summaries prior to his final decisions. 

    @flugel said:

    I am only responsible for what I type - not what you are willing to accept.

    Would that happen if they didn't think he valued their input?  

    While Bill Belichick makes all the decisions - he's pretty freakin demanding of all his employees right down to the detail in their scouting reports. Yes HE makes the the final decisions but he counts on those he empowers for research, input and evaluation summaries prior to his final decisions.

    First, while my response was prompted by your post it was not aimed at you. I know proximity makes this hard to appreciate as I have made that mistake as well. That said the following are direct replies...

    What I accept are things that are consistent with what I observe.

    In the end the only way input is shown to be valued is thru it's acceptance.

    A demanding boss with high standards is not the same thing as a control freak.

  • @flugel said:

    I am only responsible for what I type - not what you are willing to accept.

    Would that happen if they didn't think he valued their input?  

    While Bill Belichick makes all the decisions - he's pretty freakin demanding of all his employees right down to the detail in their scouting reports. Yes HE makes the the final decisions but he counts on those he empowers for research, input and evaluation summaries prior to his final decisions.

    First, while my response was prompted by your post it was not aimed at you. I know proximity makes this hard to appreciate as I have made that mistake as well. That said the following are direct replies...

    What I accept are things that are consistent with what I observe.

    In the end the only way input is shown to be valued is thru it's acceptance.

    A demanding boss with high standards is not the same thing as a control freak.

    @tour2ma said:

    First, while my response was prompted by your post it was not aimed at you. I know proximity makes this hard to appreciate as I have made that mistake as well. That said the following are direct replies...

    What I accept are things that are consistent with what I observe.

    In the end the only way input is shown to be valued is thru it's acceptance.

    A demanding boss with high standards is not the same thing as a control freak.

    Thanks for the clarification!   

  • grossi is a complete Shmucking idiot he asked about drafting that beach bum from California to QB are team,,,yes the dumbass did asked that he's making mkc look smart

  • sydS syd

    grossi is a complete Shmucking idiot he asked about drafting that beach bum from California to QB are team,,,yes the dumbass did asked that he's making mkc look smart

    @syd said:

    grossi is a complete Shmucking idiot he asked about drafting that beach bum from California to QB are team,,,yes the dumbass did asked that he's making mkc look smart

    Which Beach Bum of a QB from California?   Johnny Utah?

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    Except...of course, if you recall the movie (s)....Johnny Utah was from Ohio

  • @syd said:

    grossi is a complete Shmucking idiot he asked about drafting that beach bum from California to QB are team,,,yes the dumbass did asked that he's making mkc look smart

    Which Beach Bum of a QB from California?   Johnny Utah?

    pointbreak.jpg?w=1778

    Except...of course, if you recall the movie (s)....Johnny Utah was from Ohio

    @the-gipper said:

    Which Beach Bum of a QB from California?   Johnny Utah?

    pointbreak.jpg?w=1778

    Except...of course, if you recall the movie (s)....Johnny Utah was from Ohio

    i assumed he was talking Darnold but who knows with that bum,,,,,I do not recall that movie

  • sydS syd

    @the-gipper said:

    Which Beach Bum of a QB from California?   Johnny Utah?

    pointbreak.jpg?w=1778

    Except...of course, if you recall the movie (s)....Johnny Utah was from Ohio

    i assumed he was talking Darnold but who knows with that bum,,,,,I do not recall that movie

    @syd said:

    I do not recall that movie

    You don't recall one of the greatest stories ever to be told?

    Point Break

  • @syd said:

    I do not recall that movie

    You don't recall one of the greatest stories ever to be told?

    Point Break

    @d-bone said:

    You don't recall one of the greatest stories ever to be told?

    Point Break

    I actually like that movie.  They recently did a remake....that was not as good as the original.  But the action sequences in the remake could be pretty outstanding.

  • @syd said:

    I do not recall that movie

    You don't recall one of the greatest stories ever to be told?

    Point Break

    @d-bone said:

    You don't recall one of the greatest stories ever to be told?

    Point Break

    not a fan of either of those two actors

  • Dorsey about to come on the radio in 2 minutes

    https://923thefan.radio.com/

  • sydS syd

    @d-bone said:

    You don't recall one of the greatest stories ever to be told?

    Point Break

    not a fan of either of those two actors

    @syd said:

    not a fan of either of those two actors

    Keanu Reeves...yes...pretty sketchy....but always like Patrick Sweazy.

  • sydS syd

    grossi is a complete Shmucking idiot he asked about drafting that beach bum from California to QB are team,,,yes the dumbass did asked that he's making mkc look smart

    @syd said:

    grossi is a complete Shmucking idiot he asked about drafting that beach bum from California to QB are team,,,yes the dumbass did asked that he's making mkc look smart

    Sometimes those Cali Beach Bums work out, some times they don't ...

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  • @syd said:

    grossi is a complete Shmucking idiot he asked about drafting that beach bum from California to QB are team,,,yes the dumbass did asked that he's making mkc look smart

    Sometimes those Cali Beach Bums work out, some times they don't ...

    201276_207871779232627_3050553_o.jpg?_nc

    Zombo said:

    Sometimes those Cali Beach Bums work out, some times they don't ...

    201276_207871779232627_3050553_o.jpg?_nc

    Who is the other guy?  Is that Paul McDonald?

  • Zombo said:

    Sometimes those Cali Beach Bums work out, some times they don't ...

    201276_207871779232627_3050553_o.jpg?_nc

    Who is the other guy?  Is that Paul McDonald?

    @the-gipper said:

    Who is the other guy?  Is that Paul McDonald?

    Yep.

    Z

  • Now....who would not want this Jersey:

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    Johnny Utah  QB  Ohio State, #9