Dorsey pre-draft presser
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He let nothing slip in that presser.
Ever worked with a control freak? They tend to believe everyone was onboard with their decisions. Among other things Dorsey was run out of KC because he blindsided everyone with his 2017 draft.
Most revealing part of the Presser was Dorsey talking about his "democratic" process where he and dissenters meet to discuss their different views. This is where "the one" gets "the many" in line.
I am only responsible for what I type - not what you are willing to accept. I typed Dorsey said in his presser that the selection of Mahomes came via committee. I'm not the guy you need to picket if that doesn't sit well with you because you think Andy Reid was tied up to a chair with duck tape over his mouth for an entire draft in 2017. A HUGE reason Andy hand selected KC was he was assured the same power he had in Philly especially the say in what QB his career there would be defined and evaluated by. My guess is if he hated the Mahomes selection - Alex Smith would have been more than happy to stay where he enjoyed the best years of his career. People forget Favre and McNabb played in a Veer in college which meant neither were about to be loved by all teams pre-draft before Andy coached them. This is very similar to the way people/teams viewed the type of college offense Mahomes was coming out of. Andy has a history of being able to work with these types of QBs that other teams were reluctant to consider. We actually considered Akili Smith more than McNabb for #1 overall while while no 1st round selection was booed louder than McNabb at #2 overall. Mahomes has a lot of similarities to Favre with arm strength often in spite of mechanics as well as the gunslinger mentality. I think Andy Reid liked Mahomes a lot better than you are willing to accept here.
In a draft where there's been a lot of debate over the top 3-4 QB prospects - there's bound to be disagreement among scouts. coaches, and leadership/FO. I would rather see Dorsey VALUE their research, input and evaluation summaries via debate rather than Butch Davis disrespectfully power playing them with 2 middle fingers prior to Gerrard Warren at #3 overall baby! It looked to me like Highsmith and Wolfe were excited to re-unite with Dorsey. Would that happen if they didn't think he valued their input?
To answer your question - Yes. I was Head Football Coach for an Athletic Director in the late 80s who was a legendary high school football coach. He just so happened to have a son on the team he hired me to coach. FWIW, I took a program that didn't win a football game in 3 years before I was hired to 2nd place in just my second year. Sometimes a control freak gets where he is by unparalleled organizational standards such as Nick Saban and Bill Belichick. While Bill Belichick makes all the decisions - he's pretty freakin demanding of all his employees right down to the detail in their scouting reports. Yes HE makes the the final decisions but he counts on those he empowers for research, input and evaluation summaries prior to his final decisions.
I am only responsible for what I type - not what you are willing to accept.
Would that happen if they didn't think he valued their input?
While Bill Belichick makes all the decisions - he's pretty freakin demanding of all his employees right down to the detail in their scouting reports. Yes HE makes the the final decisions but he counts on those he empowers for research, input and evaluation summaries prior to his final decisions.
First, while my response was prompted by your post it was not aimed at you. I know proximity makes this hard to appreciate as I have made that mistake as well. That said the following are direct replies...
What I accept are things that are consistent with what I observe.
In the end the only way input is shown to be valued is thru it's acceptance.
A demanding boss with high standards is not the same thing as a control freak.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I am only responsible for what I type - not what you are willing to accept.
Would that happen if they didn't think he valued their input?
While Bill Belichick makes all the decisions - he's pretty freakin demanding of all his employees right down to the detail in their scouting reports. Yes HE makes the the final decisions but he counts on those he empowers for research, input and evaluation summaries prior to his final decisions.
First, while my response was prompted by your post it was not aimed at you. I know proximity makes this hard to appreciate as I have made that mistake as well. That said the following are direct replies...
What I accept are things that are consistent with what I observe.
In the end the only way input is shown to be valued is thru it's acceptance.
A demanding boss with high standards is not the same thing as a control freak.
First, while my response was prompted by your post it was not aimed at you. I know proximity makes this hard to appreciate as I have made that mistake as well. That said the following are direct replies...
What I accept are things that are consistent with what I observe.
In the end the only way input is shown to be valued is thru it's acceptance.
A demanding boss with high standards is not the same thing as a control freak.
Thanks for the clarification!
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grossi is a complete Shmucking idiot he asked about drafting that beach bum from California to QB are team,,,yes the dumbass did asked that he's making mkc look smart
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grossi is a complete Shmucking idiot he asked about drafting that beach bum from California to QB are team,,,yes the dumbass did asked that he's making mkc look smart
grossi is a complete Shmucking idiot he asked about drafting that beach bum from California to QB are team,,,yes the dumbass did asked that he's making mkc look smart
Which Beach Bum of a QB from California? Johnny Utah?
Except...of course, if you recall the movie (s)....Johnny Utah was from Ohio
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grossi is a complete Shmucking idiot he asked about drafting that beach bum from California to QB are team,,,yes the dumbass did asked that he's making mkc look smart
Which Beach Bum of a QB from California? Johnny Utah?
Except...of course, if you recall the movie (s)....Johnny Utah was from Ohio
Which Beach Bum of a QB from California? Johnny Utah?
Except...of course, if you recall the movie (s)....Johnny Utah was from Ohio
i assumed he was talking Darnold but who knows with that bum,,,,,I do not recall that movie
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Which Beach Bum of a QB from California? Johnny Utah?
Except...of course, if you recall the movie (s)....Johnny Utah was from Ohio
i assumed he was talking Darnold but who knows with that bum,,,,,I do not recall that movie
I do not recall that movie
You don't recall one of the greatest stories ever to be told?
Point Break
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You don't recall one of the greatest stories ever to be told?
Point Break
not a fan of either of those two actors
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Dorsey about to come on the radio in 2 minutes
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grossi is a complete Shmucking idiot he asked about drafting that beach bum from California to QB are team,,,yes the dumbass did asked that he's making mkc look smart
grossi is a complete Shmucking idiot he asked about drafting that beach bum from California to QB are team,,,yes the dumbass did asked that he's making mkc look smart
Sometimes those Cali Beach Bums work out, some times they don't ...
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Zombo said:
Sometimes those Cali Beach Bums work out, some times they don't ...
Who is the other guy? Is that Paul McDonald?
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Zombo said:
Sometimes those Cali Beach Bums work out, some times they don't ...
Who is the other guy? Is that Paul McDonald?
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Now....who would not want this Jersey:
Johnny Utah QB Ohio State, #9
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From what I've been able to discern from various Dorsey comments, we're taking every top rated QB at #1 and we're taking every top rated non QB at #4. - And, of course, we could trade down.
...unlike Dorsey, I learned most of my card games from friends and not my father.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
LMAO............... he basically admitted............ HE AIN'T SCHIDT...............
Look dumb asses, Jimmy's wife runs this team. Look at her volunteer work and causes......................... HUE JACKSON is her pet project. Dorsey fumbled and stumbled answering how he has to listen to everyone else................. JUST WHAT THE BROWNS NEED....................... Sashi, Sewage, Homlgren...................Same gutless BS>
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
From what I've been able to discern from various Dorsey comments, we're taking every top rated QB at #1 and we're taking every top rated non QB at #4. - And, of course, we could trade down.
...unlike Dorsey, I learned most of my card games from friends and not my father.
From what I've been able to discern from various Dorsey comments
The one that sticks out to me the most is "Trust your Eyes" not sure if that was a shot across the bow at Sashi again? Sashi's evaluators? Scouts? but for damn sure, he's either convindant or just C-ocky with his convindance..the scorekeepers will be keeping score
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From what I've been able to discern from various Dorsey comments
The one that sticks out to me the most is "Trust your Eyes" not sure if that was a shot across the bow at Sashi again? Sashi's evaluators? Scouts? but for damn sure, he's either convindant or just C-ocky with his convindance..the scorekeepers will be keeping score
The one that sticks out to me the most is "Trust your Eyes"
Someone should've followed up with a "Whaddyamean by that".
Is he talking about game film? (I'm assuming) - Would that be a good thing for Mayfield and/or Rosen? And not such a good thing for Darnold & Allen?
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Is he talking about game film? (I'm assuming) - Would that be a good thing for Mayfield and/or Rosen? And not such a good thing for Darnold & Allen?
may not load, but worth finding https://www.news-herald.com/sports/20180419/john-dorsey-cagey-but-clues-say-browns-gm-will-take-a-quarterback-with-first-pick The comment was on any position film evaluating..at the same time. Sashi was haslems contract guy. not a tape evaluator. so could work a lot of ways..lets see what evaluators are cut loose after draft🥷..As for QB,Dorsey sounds more of who can fit Hue/Haley's O system. am not seeing Mayfield stuff off field as a killer..remember dorsey drafted Kelce & Peters who were no angels in school..QB may fall more on Wolfe & x-redskin man Scott Mc Q,T. Haley should also be key designing the O book
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