Baker Mayfield Thread
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Even should Rosen be given a clean bill of health?!
I don't think it's so much a clean bill of health today as it is that there's been a history of concussions. The kid is reasonably well-to-do and obviously pretty smart. Next ding on the head and he may well decide not to risk ending up like Muhammad Ali. Of course that's Dime Store psychology and pure speculation but...
WSS
I don't think it's so much a clean bill of health today as it is that there's been a history of concussions. The kid is reasonably well-to-do and obviously pretty smart. Next ding on the head and he may well decide not to risk ending up like Muhammad Ali. Of course that's Dime Store psychology and pure speculation but...
WSS
Fair point. I guess it boils down to drive and as highlighted, Aaron Rodgers is pretty well off yet hasn't thrown in the towel.
If the neurologist gives the OK though, it's going to be a bitter pill for me to swallow should we take any other QB.
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I don't think it's so much a clean bill of health today as it is that there's been a history of concussions. The kid is reasonably well-to-do and obviously pretty smart. Next ding on the head and he may well decide not to risk ending up like Muhammad Ali. Of course that's Dime Store psychology and pure speculation but...
WSS
Fair point. I guess it boils down to drive and as highlighted, Aaron Rodgers is pretty well off yet hasn't thrown in the towel.
If the neurologist gives the OK though, it's going to be a bitter pill for me to swallow should we take any other QB.
Fair point. I guess it boils down to drive and as highlighted, Aaron Rodgers is pretty well off yet hasn't thrown in the towel.
If the neurologist gives the OK though, it's going to be a bitter pill for me to swallow should we take any other QB.
Sure, and after the last few decades one can't help but be a little gun-shy about a #1 first-round quarterback investment.
WSS
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I'd take Baker over Rosen
Even should Rosen be given a clean bill of health?!
Even should Rosen be given a clean bill of health?!
I don't like Rosen's concussion history. Throw in close family in the medical profession and remove the need for money, and that means he'll hang it up if he's concerned about a concussion. Throw in the attitude stuff, and I just don't want him. I'd rather take a flier on Baker and roll with his intangibles.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
ahh i thought it was just oils and incantations
To an extent I think you are right but still the training is really stringent. Also ... Remember that the American public is addicted to Medicine. I think in many cases maybe even most, the ailments that befall the General Public will probably get better on their own. My neck hurts or my back hurts and I go to see chiropractor it feels better for a while. I'm not thinking that it's curing anyting but what the hell? How many guys do we know that have had back surgery that are worse off afterwards?
WSS
To an extent I think you are right but still the training is really stringent. Also ... Remember that the American public is addicted to Medicine. I think in many cases maybe even most, the ailments that befall the General Public will probably get better on their own. My neck hurts or my back hurts and I go to see chiropractor it feels better for a while. I'm not thinking that it's curing anyting but what the hell? How many guys do we know that have had back surgery that are worse off afterwards?
WSS
i live in Oregon where weed is legal and i don't know it anyone has talked to you about cbd you can get it without the thc and it works so well for head aches body pains I find it a damn shame that anyone can not just go to the store and get some ....take care of your neck and back
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To an extent I think you are right but still the training is really stringent. Also ... Remember that the American public is addicted to Medicine. I think in many cases maybe even most, the ailments that befall the General Public will probably get better on their own. My neck hurts or my back hurts and I go to see chiropractor it feels better for a while. I'm not thinking that it's curing anyting but what the hell? How many guys do we know that have had back surgery that are worse off afterwards?
WSS
i live in Oregon where weed is legal and i don't know it anyone has talked to you about cbd you can get it without the thc and it works so well for head aches body pains I find it a damn shame that anyone can not just go to the store and get some ....take care of your neck and back
i live in Oregon where weed is legal and i don't know it anyone has talked to you about cbd you can get it without the thc and it works so well for head aches body pains I find it a damn shame that anyone can not just go to the store and get some ....take care of your neck and back
Like I said, not really that serious and would probably get better without the neck rub. Furthermore, and this is a topic for elsewhere, I don't give a rat's a$$ about weed. Smoke it if you got it.
On the other hand if you are in Oregon you've got some pretty tasty hops growing up there.
WSS
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i live in Oregon where weed is legal and i don't know it anyone has talked to you about cbd you can get it without the thc and it works so well for head aches body pains I find it a damn shame that anyone can not just go to the store and get some ....take care of your neck and back
Like I said, not really that serious and would probably get better without the neck rub. Furthermore, and this is a topic for elsewhere, I don't give a rat's a$$ about weed. Smoke it if you got it.
On the other hand if you are in Oregon you've got some pretty tasty hops growing up there.
WSS
Like I said, not really that serious and would probably get better without the neck rub. Furthermore, and this is a topic for elsewhere, I don't give a rat's a$$ about weed. Smoke it if you got it.
On the other hand if you are in Oregon you've got some pretty tasty hops growing up there.
WSS
hops wineries weed mountains the ocean not a bad place to live
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Like I said, not really that serious and would probably get better without the neck rub. Furthermore, and this is a topic for elsewhere, I don't give a rat's a$$ about weed. Smoke it if you got it.
On the other hand if you are in Oregon you've got some pretty tasty hops growing up there.
WSS
hops wineries weed mountains the ocean not a bad place to live
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I don't think it's so much a clean bill of health today as it is that there's been a history of concussions. The kid is reasonably well-to-do and obviously pretty smart. Next ding on the head and he may well decide not to risk ending up like Muhammad Ali. Of course that's Dime Store psychology and pure speculation but...
WSS
Fair point. I guess it boils down to drive and as highlighted, Aaron Rodgers is pretty well off yet hasn't thrown in the towel.
If the neurologist gives the OK though, it's going to be a bitter pill for me to swallow should we take any other QB.
Fair point. I guess it boils down to drive and as highlighted, Aaron Rodgers is pretty well off yet hasn't thrown in the towel.
If the neurologist gives the OK though, it's going to be a bitter pill for me to swallow should we take any other QB.
I'll let Tour expound on where he saw that info, but supposedly the Browns Medical Staff red flagged Rosen on those concussions and injuries...
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Nathan ZeguraVerified account @NathanZegura
Baker 51% Darnold 49%
8:15 AM - 23 Apr 2018Was that a vote Tour? I'm not on Twitter, and it's sort of hard to follow... BTW according to Nathan (besides what Hue already said) That being said NO ONE knows anything except Dorsey. He is in complete command of situation and all info, which is great.
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Even should Rosen be given a clean bill of health?!
I don't like Rosen's concussion history. Throw in close family in the medical profession and remove the need for money, and that means he'll hang it up if he's concerned about a concussion. Throw in the attitude stuff, and I just don't want him. I'd rather take a flier on Baker and roll with his intangibles.
I don't like Rosen's concussion history. Throw in close family in the medical profession and remove the need for money, and that means he'll hang it up if he's concerned about a concussion. Throw in the attitude stuff, and I just don't want him. I'd rather take a flier on Baker and roll with his intangibles.
Nothing is more baffling to me (besides the Josh Allen love) than Baker Mayfield fans downgrading Rosen because of his "attitude".
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I don't like Rosen's concussion history. Throw in close family in the medical profession and remove the need for money, and that means he'll hang it up if he's concerned about a concussion. Throw in the attitude stuff, and I just don't want him. I'd rather take a flier on Baker and roll with his intangibles.
Nothing is more baffling to me (besides the Josh Allen love) than Baker Mayfield fans downgrading Rosen because of his "attitude".
Nothing is more baffling to me (besides the Josh Allen love) than Baker Mayfield fans downgrading Rosen because of his "attitude".
Literally as I'm typing your post popped up. Thank you, sir.
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Even should Rosen be given a clean bill of health?!
I don't like Rosen's concussion history. Throw in close family in the medical profession and remove the need for money, and that means he'll hang it up if he's concerned about a concussion. Throw in the attitude stuff, and I just don't want him. I'd rather take a flier on Baker and roll with his intangibles.
I don't like Rosen's concussion history. Throw in close family in the medical profession and remove the need for money, and that means he'll hang it up if he's concerned about a concussion. Throw in the attitude stuff, and I just don't want him. I'd rather take a flier on Baker and roll with his intangibles.
yup, you got it right.
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Might already be out there, but I haven't seen a thread for this guy yet.. I am not a college ball guy, but I have watched a lot of you tubes on the 3 or 4 major prospects and have seen little attention given to Baker Mayfield.
I watched the fan boy vids of each of the 4 top guys and of course they look great. But then you watch every throw they make against a good team like Ohio State and then they look a lot different. I watched Darnold in that game and I was less than impressed. Saw him throwing into double even triple coverage. Sure there were a LOT of dropped passes, but he made a lot of iffy decisions in that game.
On the other hand Baker Mayfield has a similar look about him, but definitely smaller(at 6'1"). He has a good arm and throw darts. But I really like his decision making in that game. Threw into double coverage , but ball was placed where only the receiver could get it. He seemed to be checking down 3 and even 4 deep before scrambling. Scrambles great especially on the weak side.
I really liked Mayfield in the very limited film I've seen of him. Not sure if there are other things that are negatives, like off field cowpoop.. But I would love to see this play out.
Take Saquon Barkley at 1 and I think it is likely that Mayfield is available at 4...
Thoughts?Might already be out there, but I haven't seen a thread for this guy yet.. I am not a college ball guy, but I have watched a lot of you tubes on the 3 or 4 major prospects and have seen little attention given to Baker Mayfield.
I watched the fan boy vids of each of the 4 top guys and of course they look great. But then you watch every throw they make against a good team like Ohio State and then they look a lot different. I watched Darnold in that game and I was less than impressed. Saw him throwing into double even triple coverage. Sure there were a LOT of dropped passes, but he made a lot of iffy decisions in that game.
On the other hand Baker Mayfield has a similar look about him, but definitely smaller(at 6'1"). He has a good arm and throw darts. But I really like his decision making in that game. Threw into double coverage , but ball was placed where only the receiver could get it. He seemed to be checking down 3 and even 4 deep before scrambling. Scrambles great especially on the weak side.
I really liked Mayfield in the very limited film I've seen of him. Not sure if there are other things that are negatives, like off field cowpoop.. But I would love to see this play out.
Take Saquon Barkley at 1 and I think it is likely that Mayfield is available at 4...
Thoughts?If we want Mayfield, take him at #1. The odds are much better that any of the other players are still there at #4.
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I don't like Rosen's concussion history. Throw in close family in the medical profession and remove the need for money, and that means he'll hang it up if he's concerned about a concussion. Throw in the attitude stuff, and I just don't want him. I'd rather take a flier on Baker and roll with his intangibles.
Nothing is more baffling to me (besides the Josh Allen love) than Baker Mayfield fans downgrading Rosen because of his "attitude".
Nothing is more baffling to me (besides the Josh Allen love) than Baker Mayfield fans downgrading Rosen because of his "attitude".
Baker is the type of prick you want on your team. Rosen is the type of prick you don't want to play with
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Nothing is more baffling to me (besides the Josh Allen love) than Baker Mayfield fans downgrading Rosen because of his "attitude".
Baker is the type of prick you want on your team. Rosen is the type of prick you don't want to play with
Baker is the type of prick you want on your team. Rosen is the type of prick you don't want to play with
If you say so?
Basically, you are a Ford Escort owner making fun of a Chevy Cavalier owner with this argument.
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I have legitimate concerns we're going to draft Allen. While I'm obviously not a pro scout, I feel like I've been right way more than wrong when diagnosing qb's. For instance, I hated every single QB we've drafted. No matter how many times I tried to convince myself otherwise. And what do you know? They all sucked. When watching Allen, my "he's going to be a colossal bust" alarm goes off.
The other 3, Baker, Rosen, Darnold, could make me happy after draft day. Baker is still the choice for me, and his firey attitude and precision accuracy make me believe he's got the goods. Baker is fast enough to run read-option, strong enough to throw everything, and has the moxie to elevate us from the toilet bowl.
If it wasn't for 3 facts I would draft Rosen in a heartbeat.
1. 2 concussions in HS
2. 2 concussions in college
3. Father is a doctor and you can bet Josh will give up football in a NY minute if his father advises him to do so once he's made a few $Mil. That might be only a season if we take him first overall.
If it wasn't for 3 facts I would draft Rosen in a heartbeat.
1. 2 concussions in HS
2. 2 concussions in college
3. Father is a doctor and you can bet Josh will give up football in a NY minute if his father advises him to do so once he's made a few $Mil. That might be only a season if we take him first overall.
I've said exactly what you've said for a while. You don't mess with your freaking brain. He's not in a situation where he's trying to financially support 4 generations of poverty like so many other players. I'd definitely take him if not for concussion history, and it doesn't help that he doesn't have the wheels to avoid pressure.
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Nothing is more baffling to me (besides the Josh Allen love) than Baker Mayfield fans downgrading Rosen because of his "attitude".
Baker is the type of prick you want on your team. Rosen is the type of prick you don't want to play with
Baker is the type of prick you want on your team. Rosen is the type of prick you don't want to play with
I think I agree with this really, well, as much as I can without knowing either of them
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I think Mayfield is my second favorite QB prospect now.
I went into the offseason .1 Rosen 2. Darnold 3. Mayfield. 4. Allen/Rudolf
I came out of the offseason 1. Darnold. 2, Mayfield, 3, Rosen. 4. Allen 5. Rudolf
That's all just off of "talk" and pedestrian research ... When games were actually being played I had a different mindset ... Interesting what all this draft chatter does ...
By the way, I think Mayfield passed Rosen (In my head) based on how I hear other people who know them, evaluated them, got close to them ... describe their personalities. I can see Mayfield covered in mud screaming at his receivers directing his team down the field for a late November divisional win. I can see Rosen kinda indifferent to Cleveland, not always playing hurt, leaving when the first contract is done ... Tell me I'm wrong Tour, I wanna like this guy because he sure throws a pretty pass.
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