The 'who have you watched lately?' thread.
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Agree.... for me it boils down to field vision. That was the hurdle Kizer ran up against and could not clear.
What tia describes cannot be taken in piecemeal and certainly cannot be complete if a QB only looks at his receivers. A QB has to take in blocks of info... areas of the field.... multiple targets and defenders (and their relationships to each other) in a glance.
In this draft only one of the top QBs displays field vision with any regularity.
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Another great example (or terrible depending on how you phrase it) is @ 4:20 in that same game about understanding what he see's post snap.
Initial look you have what appears to be a 0- man pressure the whole way. It's a nice move by the Broncos but it isn't like it's disguised so well like you can't see what is happening after the ball is in play. In this instance, as a QB, should this be a 6 man pressure and that both backers are coming at me, the OLB is unblocked thus is the one you're responsible for reading and throwing hot. That has to be in the back of your mind. Oline is going to worry about bottling up the interior stuff first and making the guy farthest outside get to your QB.
So you know have man across the board - a trend that Boise State had shown all game and you get a double move with your boundary #2 who gets matched on a safety. This is purely by design and great work done by the coaching staff to attack man coverage. The big responsibilities JA has here is 1 - identifying pressure... gotta make sure you have time to push the ball vertical; and 2 - identifying where the safety is should the backers not attack. You cannot float this ball up without the latter most especially, you simply cannot do it.
The MIKE is sitting hard in the A gap so I'm really not too worried about him affecting where the vertical threat will go. I still see man the whole way. Just need to know if he's shooting a gap. At the snap the OLB fly's to the field side #2 and the FS covering him rotates hard to center field, the MIKE immediately backs out and plays a middle field read. Granted seeing Boise St. defenders is a bitch on that turf - their unis and the field color are a gimmick that the NCAA simply shouldn't allow, but I digress. To their credit it's a good design and a great bait drawn up by the Boise coaches. But Allen's eyes again, NEVER leave his man. They don't look for a defender, they don't even check the interior or possible edge pressure. Cherry on top, you pump fake at your intended target and you STILL haven't checked the safety. Even then without the safety it's a ball that never would have been completed because it sailed on him but there is that issue rearing it's head again - when JA misses, he misses high.
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He's got 500 tomato plants to get in the ground. Got to take a couple days or so. That's a lot of holes to dig.
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But will he know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
But will he know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall?
Oh please don't finish that song. It'll go to his head.
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Oh please don't finish that song. It'll go to his head.
Better to be in his head than go to his head:
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Dan Orlovsky saw the same thing I did with the Boise State play and highlights same stuff
edit: Re: Allen
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Dan Orlovsky saw the same thing I did with the Boise State play and highlights same stuff
edit: Re: Allen
Dan Orlovsky saw the same thing I did with the Boise State play and highlights same stuff
Actually helped my Darnold acceptance factor...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Dan Orlovsky saw the same thing I did with the Boise State play and highlights same stuff
Actually helped my Darnold acceptance factor...
Actually helped my Darnold acceptance factor...
I'm on the fence. If Dorsey is dead set on not taking Rosen then so be it. After all, it's his job on the line.
Darnold seems like the only pick of the "top 4" I wouldn't hate being a Browns fan about. Seems like a decent kid. Has the physical traits, has the arm and when he feet are set, has shown some good velocity and accuracy. Also can throw a decent ball while on the move. Mentally? I swear I see Grossman at times. He'll thread the needle one play and the next stare down his primary. As you said, he has been successful at times despite being flawed.
But there have been a couple flashes that at least make me pause and say "Ok, let me take another look". Did it with Allen just to confirm what I already knew. Did it with Mayfield and to a lesser extent Lamar for the same reasons.
Still not opposed to the 2 QB strategy and taking Benkert later
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And now Mayfield is emerging...
Man... I just spent yesterday getting comfortable with Darnold and was repelled by a couple recent Mayfield interviews.
I've got to work on my timing...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
And now Mayfield is emerging...
Man... I just spent yesterday getting comfortable with Darnold and was repelled by a couple recent Mayfield interviews.
I've got to work on my timing...
And now Mayfield is emerging...
Man... I just spent yesterday getting comfortable with Darnold and was repelled by a couple recent Mayfield interviews.
I've got to work on my timing...
I don't have to look off field to be repelled by Mayfield.
He isn't Wilson and he sure as Sheet isn't Breesy. Any of those comparisons are misleading at best.
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And now Mayfield is emerging...
Man... I just spent yesterday getting comfortable with Darnold and was repelled by a couple recent Mayfield interviews.
I've got to work on my timing...
I don't have to look off field to be repelled by Mayfield.
He isn't Wilson and he sure as Sheet isn't Breesy. Any of those comparisons are misleading at best.
I don't have to look off field to be repelled by Mayfield.
He isn't Wilson and he sure as Sheet isn't Breesy. Any of those comparisons are misleading at best.
Totally agree on Wilson...
Think he can be Brees, but it'll take time and is not guaranteed.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Totally agree on Wilson...
Think he can be Brees, but it'll take time and is not guaranteed.
Agree to disagree on that. He has done things a certain way his whole life and it has been tailored to fit the current college offense. Changing that would take a minor miracle.
Oh, Paging Dr. Woody... Mo Hurst fell where I said he would.
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We don't know where Mo will ultimately fall too. And we don't even know if teams are correct
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We don't know where Mo will ultimately fall too. And we don't even know if teams are correct
We don't know where Mo will ultimately fall too. And we don't even know if teams are correct
Unless the med report was waaaaaaaay Shmucked up, he's going to be picked tonight.
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We don't know where Mo will ultimately fall too. And we don't even know if teams are correct
Unless the med report was waaaaaaaay Shmucked up, he's going to be picked tonight.
Unless the med report was waaaaaaaay Shmucked up, he's going to be picked tonight.
Well it sounds like he dropped because of medical concerns. Though multiple doctors have cleared him. I wonder if some teams got a little concerned and then that rippled through the league.
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Well it sounds like he dropped because of medical concerns. Though multiple doctors have cleared him. I wonder if some teams got a little concerned and then that rippled through the league.
Odd... almost like somebody here may have said something along those lines a couple weeks ago.
edit: Just busting your balls.
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