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  • @westside-steve said:

    But of course the admonition why are you so white didn't cause you to Blink an eye. Understood.

    WSS

    It doesn't. You can cry into your beer about it, but it doesn't.

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    @jrb12711 said:

    It doesn't. You can cry into your beer about it, but it doesn't.

    Me?  I don't care about either one. Somebody who really cares about one or the other is looking for reasons to be outraged.

    WSS

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969

    Here is my question. What team benefits the most from throwing out dirty smoke like this on draft day?

    NE or Pitt?

    Somebody wants him to drop to them-----bet on it.

  • Here is my question. What team benefits the most from throwing out dirty smoke like this on draft day?

    NE or Pitt?

    Somebody wants him to drop to them-----bet on it.

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by

    @texasag1969 said:

    Here is my question. What team benefits the most from throwing out dirty smoke like this on draft day?

    NE or Pitt?

    The agents for Rosen Mayfield or Darnold?

    WSS

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Not that I brushed it aside, jrb, but do you want to post how he probably dirtied his diaper when he was

    2 months old, too?

    It was said to him, "why are you so white"...and he made a stupid joke in return. same thing with the n-word.

    Context - it was wrong, but still, context. After all your excusing Mayfield's antics, you go back to high school for Allen.

    I'm not surprised. Haters gonna hate.

    The world and media doesn't care about context. The media can the rest of the kids life mark him as saying "if it aint white, it aint right". That simple.

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    @jrb12711 said:

    The world and media doesn't care about context. The media can the rest of the kids life mark him as saying "if it aint white, it aint right". That simple.

    Context is an excuse for Allen but isn't for Rosen?

  • @jrb12711 said:

    The world and media doesn't care about context. The media can the rest of the kids life mark him as saying "if it aint white, it aint right". That simple.

    Context is an excuse for Allen but isn't for Rosen?

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    @unsympathetic said:

    Context is an excuse for Allen but isn't for Rosen?

    Yes, yes it is. I don't have a dog in the fight here but looking at the issue from the top it just is.

    EDIT: Well to be fair, my dog in the fight is that Allen is going to suck in the NFL but that's based on his body of work.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I'm not surprised. Haters gonna hate.

    You're a grown butt man using this phrase.   Let that sink in for a moment. 

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    @tiamat63 said:

    You're a grown butt man using this phrase.   Let that sink in for a moment. 

    he was not a grown man, dammit. He was FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. That's about 2011.

  • Not that I brushed it aside, jrb, but do you want to post how he probably dirtied his diaper when he was

    2 months old, too?

    It was said to him, "why are you so white"...and he made a stupid joke in return. same thing with the n-word.

    Context - it was wrong, but still, context. After all your excusing Mayfield's antics, you go back to high school for Allen.

    I'm not surprised. Haters gonna hate.

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @calfoxwc said:

    Not that I brushed it aside, jrb, but do you want to post how he probably dirtied his diaper when he was

    2 months old, too?

    It was said to him, "why are you so white"...and he made a stupid joke in return. same thing with the n-word.

    Context - it was wrong, but still, context. After all your excusing Mayfield's antics, you go back to high school for Allen.

    I'm not surprised. Haters gonna hate.

    😆MFAO!  Says the SAME guy that was all over anything and everything Josh Rosen said when he was 17 years old.  While the pot continues to call the kettle black - Josh Allen can only wish he used the word black in lieu of the hateful description he preferred.  But as you said, haters are gonna hate and Allen did...

  • @tiamat63 said:

    You're a grown butt man using this phrase.   Let that sink in for a moment. 

    he was not a grown man, dammit. He was FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. That's about 2011.

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    @calfoxwc said:

    he was not a grown man, dammit. He was FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. That's about 2011.

    I meant YOU...  saying "haters gonna hate".   

    What are you, 16?!?!

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    The media needed SOMETHING different to say.

    The kid was fifteen. Nate Burleson, on the NFL channel just this morning, had a similar take - it doesn't define who you are now, but kids need to know that if, somehow, they "know" they are going to be a pro player - that scouts, etc, are going to look at their history all the way back through grade school maybe.

      All this not caring about Rosen's lack of intangibles, just caring about "pocket passer"...

    and now this from 2011? five/six years ago? about one minute's worth of counter-jousting on social media?

    Burleson said teams will KNOW who the guy is with his entire career so far - they've done their homework.

    It was about a minute of stupid crap both ways on social media. It's bs.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    he was not a grown man, dammit. He was FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. That's about 2011.

    I meant YOU...  saying "haters gonna hate".   

    What are you, 16?!?!

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    @tiamat63 said:

    I meant YOU...  saying "haters gonna hate".   

    What are you, 16?!?!

    I was just talking down to your level, buttinski. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I meant YOU...  saying "haters gonna hate".   

    What are you, 16?!?!

    I was just talking down to your level, buttinski. 

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    @calfoxwc said:

    I was just talking down to your level, buttinski. 

    Damn, I wish I was 16 again.     I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat.  

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    So "documented racial slurs at 15" = "perceived lack of intangibles"?

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I was just talking down to your level, buttinski. 

    Damn, I wish I was 16 again.     I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat.  

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 said:

    Damn, I wish I was 16 again.     I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat.  

    Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again...

    Wait!

    I'll take Nixon.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Damn, I wish I was 16 again.     I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat.  

    Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again...

    Wait!

    I'll take Nixon.

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63

    @tour2ma said:

    Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again...

    Wait!

    I'll take Nixon.

    For me that would mean Dubya, Friday night football after pizza, and Half Life 2.            2004 > 2018

  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by

    and for me it would mean getting to watch The Breakfast Club for the first time again....... 

  • and for me it would mean getting to watch The Breakfast Club for the first time again....... 

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    @d-bone said:

    and for me it would mean getting to watch The Breakfast Club for the first time again....... 

    "SMOKE UP JOHNNY"....   Shmuckin' A.   Love that movie.  

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Damn, I wish I was 16 again.     I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat.  

    Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again...

    Wait!

    I'll take Nixon.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again...

    Wait!

    I'll take Nixon.

    16?   For me....it would be LBJ.   It also meant the assassinations of MLK and RFK.   And race riots.  And Vietnam War.

    but also...great music.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I was just talking down to your level, buttinski. 

    Damn, I wish I was 16 again.     I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat.  

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    @tiamat63 said:

    Damn, I wish I was 16 again.     I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat.  

    1980 for Me.

    The Kardiac Kids, A Cleveland Browns Christmas, my first car, my first date (funny how that works) ... send me back to 16 with this knowledge and a sideline spot next to Sam Rutigliano ... "Anything but Red Right 88, Sam, Anything!"

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  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    I'd do 1960 all over again and con Gail into going skinny dipping down that Venezuelan beach with the clear water coral reef. That could have changed my entire definition of snorkeling!🙄

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma

    Meanwhile back at the thread...

    Sorry, cal... your #1 Allen-ally has left you at the altar....

    Mel Kiper Jr.‏Verified account @MelKiperESPN

    My final Mock Draft for the Class of 2018. And there's a change at No. 1 ...

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    7:53 AM - 26 Apr 2018