From nobody to the top of the first round of the draft - Josh Allen

[tiamat63]

@calfoxwc said:

he was not a grown man, dammit. He was FIFTEEN YEARS OLD. That's about 2011.

I meant YOU...  saying "haters gonna hate".   

What are you, 16?!?!

[calfoxwc]

The media needed SOMETHING different to say.

The kid was fifteen. Nate Burleson, on the NFL channel just this morning, had a similar take - it doesn't define who you are now, but kids need to know that if, somehow, they "know" they are going to be a pro player - that scouts, etc, are going to look at their history all the way back through grade school maybe.

  All this not caring about Rosen's lack of intangibles, just caring about "pocket passer"...

and now this from 2011? five/six years ago? about one minute's worth of counter-jousting on social media?

Burleson said teams will KNOW who the guy is with his entire career so far - they've done their homework.

It was about a minute of stupid crap both ways on social media. It's bs.

[calfoxwc]

@tiamat63 said:

I meant YOU...  saying "haters gonna hate".   

What are you, 16?!?!

I was just talking down to your level, buttinski. 

[tiamat63]

@calfoxwc said:

I was just talking down to your level, buttinski. 

Damn, I wish I was 16 again.     I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat.  

[Tour2ma]

So "documented racial slurs at 15" = "perceived lack of intangibles"?

[Tour2ma]

@tiamat63 said:

Damn, I wish I was 16 again.     I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat.  

Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again...

Wait!

I'll take Nixon.

[tiamat63]

@tour2ma said:

Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again...

Wait!

I'll take Nixon.

For me that would mean Dubya, Friday night football after pizza, and Half Life 2.            2004 > 2018

[D Bone]

and for me it would mean getting to watch The Breakfast Club for the first time again....... 

[tiamat63]

@d-bone said:

and for me it would mean getting to watch The Breakfast Club for the first time again....... 

"SMOKE UP JOHNNY"....   Shmuckin' A.   Love that movie.  

[The Gipper]

@tour2ma said:

Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again...

Wait!

I'll take Nixon.

16?   For me....it would be LBJ.   It also meant the assassinations of MLK and RFK.   And race riots.  And Vietnam War.

but also...great music.

[Zombo]

@tiamat63 said:

Damn, I wish I was 16 again.     I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat.  

1980 for Me.

The Kardiac Kids, A Cleveland Browns Christmas, my first car, my first date (funny how that works) ... send me back to 16 with this knowledge and a sideline spot next to Sam Rutigliano ... "Anything but Red Right 88, Sam, Anything!"

[TexasAg1969]

I'd do 1960 all over again and con Gail into going skinny dipping down that Venezuelan beach with the clear water coral reef. That could have changed my entire definition of snorkeling!

[Tour2ma]

Meanwhile back at the thread...

Sorry, cal... your #1 Allen-ally has left you at the altar....

Mel Kiper Jr.‏Verified account @MelKiperESPN

My final Mock Draft for the Class of 2018. And there's a change at No. 1 ...

7:53 AM - 26 Apr 2018

[Flugel]

@texasag1969 said:

Here is my question. What team benefits the most from throwing out dirty smoke like this on draft day?

NE or Pitt?

Somebody wants him to drop to them-----bet on it.

If it keeps his assss out of here - Cleveland!

[TexasAg1969]

@tour2ma said:

Meanwhile back at the thread...

Sorry, cal... your #1 Allen-ally has left you at the alter....

Mel Kiper Jr.‏Verified account @MelKiperESPN

My final Mock Draft for the Class of 2018. And there's a change at No. 1 ...

7:53 AM - 26 Apr 2018

Kiper switch so he could be "right" once he got inside information?

[Tour2ma]

Man.. I swear I corrected the spelling of "altar"...

@texasag1969 said:

Kiper switch so he could be "right" once he got inside information?

Seemingly...

There's a huge move to "hearing it's Mayfield" happening on reddit.

[calfoxwc]

Well, Tour, I'm glad you finally love you some Kiper. lol

Mayfield does take care of the ball better than Darnold, fewer bad throws than Allen...

I just don't know if Mayfield can let go of the controversy and drama.

[Zombo]

@calfoxwc said:

I just don't know if Mayfield can let go of the controversy and drama.

That doesn't bother me. I think he'll be fine in that aspect, just fiery on the field. I wish for a little more height. If he was 6'3 I might like him more than Darnold. 

In the end, what is 2 inches?

Boo Fagley?

Zombo

[hoorta]

@tour2ma said:

Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again...

Wait!

I'll take Nixon.

Technically it would be LBJ, but he was a huge downgrade from Kennedy....  

[The Gipper]

Zombo said:

That doesn't bother me. I think he'll be fine in that aspect, just fiery on the field. I wish for a little more height. If he was 6'3 I might like him more than Darnold. 

In the end, what is 2 inches?

Boo Fagley?

Zombo

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