From nobody to the top of the first round of the draft - Josh Allen

[The Gipper]

@tour2ma said:

Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again...

Wait!

I'll take Nixon.

16?   For me....it would be LBJ.   It also meant the assassinations of MLK and RFK.   And race riots.  And Vietnam War.

but also...great music.

[Zombo]

@tiamat63 said:

Damn, I wish I was 16 again.     I'd do 2004 all over in a heartbeat.  

1980 for Me.

The Kardiac Kids, A Cleveland Browns Christmas, my first car, my first date (funny how that works) ... send me back to 16 with this knowledge and a sideline spot next to Sam Rutigliano ... "Anything but Red Right 88, Sam, Anything!"

[TexasAg1969]

I'd do 1960 all over again and con Gail into going skinny dipping down that Venezuelan beach with the clear water coral reef. That could have changed my entire definition of snorkeling!

[Tour2ma]

Meanwhile back at the thread...

Sorry, cal... your #1 Allen-ally has left you at the altar....

Mel Kiper Jr.‏Verified account @MelKiperESPN

My final Mock Draft for the Class of 2018. And there's a change at No. 1 ...

7:53 AM - 26 Apr 2018

[Flugel]

@texasag1969 said:

Here is my question. What team benefits the most from throwing out dirty smoke like this on draft day?

NE or Pitt?

Somebody wants him to drop to them-----bet on it.

If it keeps his assss out of here - Cleveland!

[TexasAg1969]

@tour2ma said:

Meanwhile back at the thread...

Sorry, cal... your #1 Allen-ally has left you at the alter....

Mel Kiper Jr.‏Verified account @MelKiperESPN

My final Mock Draft for the Class of 2018. And there's a change at No. 1 ...

7:53 AM - 26 Apr 2018

Kiper switch so he could be "right" once he got inside information?

[Tour2ma]

Man.. I swear I corrected the spelling of "altar"...

@texasag1969 said:

Kiper switch so he could be "right" once he got inside information?

Seemingly...

There's a huge move to "hearing it's Mayfield" happening on reddit.

[calfoxwc]

Well, Tour, I'm glad you finally love you some Kiper. lol

Mayfield does take care of the ball better than Darnold, fewer bad throws than Allen...

I just don't know if Mayfield can let go of the controversy and drama.

[Zombo]

@calfoxwc said:

I just don't know if Mayfield can let go of the controversy and drama.

That doesn't bother me. I think he'll be fine in that aspect, just fiery on the field. I wish for a little more height. If he was 6'3 I might like him more than Darnold. 

In the end, what is 2 inches?

Boo Fagley?

Zombo

[hoorta]

@tour2ma said:

Man, I dunno... for me that'd mean Nixon again...

Wait!

I'll take Nixon.

Technically it would be LBJ, but he was a huge downgrade from Kennedy....  

[The Gipper]

Zombo said:

That doesn't bother me. I think he'll be fine in that aspect, just fiery on the field. I wish for a little more height. If he was 6'3 I might like him more than Darnold. 

In the end, what is 2 inches?

Boo Fagley?

Zombo

The difference between conception or not?   I know, I know:

[Tour2ma]

Zombo said:

In the end, what is 2 inches? Boo Fagley?

I think boo may be taller than that...

@calfoxwc said:

Well, Tour, I'm glad you finally love you some Kiper. lol

Mayfield does take care of the ball better than Darnold, fewer bad throws than Allen...

I just don't know if Mayfield can let go of the controversy and drama.

Nah... Mel still sucks... he just sucks a lil less...

Agree on Mayfield off-field. Not the type to sit and learn in silence for long... especially if we start slow, which is likely.

[Tour2ma]

Here's the bottom line on the slurs...

They aren't a positive, but if they were a one-off at 15, they won't be a significant factor. I don't think a lot of teams were on the fence when it came to Allen.

What interested teams are now scrambling to figure out is whether his comments were a one-off.

[Tour2ma]

@tour2ma said:

What interested teams are now scrambling to figure out is whether his comments were a one-off.

And it appears they weren't... now over three-year period.

Worse... he just said on TV of the tweets, "I did not think it would hurt me six years later."

Did a bit better later, i.e., "I've grown, etc.", but this is gonna hurt.

[jbluhm86]

One way or another, at least its only another 30-60 minutes until this borderline-homoerotic Josh Allen-lovefest of Cal's is finally locked. Countin' down the minutes...

[jbluhm86]

[The Gipper]

Close this thread now

[D Bone]

Before you do, all I can say is that even though I am 'whatever' about the Browns' first 2 picks...... I'm just glad we aren't the Bills. 

[Nero]

@d-bone said:

Before you do, all I can say is that even though I am 'whatever' about the Browns' first 2 picks...... I'm just glad we aren't the Bills. 

Same here. I said it in the Tavern. I feel pitty for the Bills fans willing to get Rosen. Then trade up for Allen... 

[Tour2ma]

@d-bone said:

Before you do, all I can say is that even though I am 'whatever' about the Browns' first 2 picks...... I'm just glad we aren't the Bills. 

Ditto, but hurt him less tham I'd tought'