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  • Remember back when ...

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    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @darren15 said:

    Remember back when ...

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    Jezzzzz how did brain-trust become a self contained oxymoron? 😛😛

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well....if Sachi was not a strong enough personality to make a decision without a consensus.....if all he ever did was to  "move on"  to consider something else when a tough decision has to be made, we are indeed better off without him. 

    I have sat on enough political and charitable boards to know that, yes  you try as hard as you can for consensus, but if there is a minority of dissenting views.....and if it is the job of the top executive to move on a matter....you do so regardless of the dissent...or a lack of complete consensus.  

    My condolences to the other board members...

    Clearly you are incapable of learning.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    My condolences to the other board members...

    Clearly you are incapable of learning.

    Translation:   I am Shmucking right on.  And you cannot handle it...because you had your head stuck so far up Sachi's butt that you were unable or unwilling to see his failures. 

    Bottom line:  consensus building is all fine well and good.   Leadership requires decision making when there there is no consensus. 

    Hell...I have all kinds of plaques on my walls because I had to engage in both:  consensus building and decision making.  I have likely forgotten more than you have ever learned about the subject.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
    #99

    Sure, Gip... you have plaques...

    All I got was a decade's worth of paychecks...

  • Sure, Gip... you have plaques...

    All I got was a decade's worth of paychecks...

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    Sure, Gip... you have plaques...

    All I got was a decade's worth of paychecks...

    Come on now, the Gipper has a decade's worth of paychecks. Well since 1976 anyway.

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    WSS

  • Sure, Gip... you have plaques...

    All I got was a decade's worth of paychecks...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    Sure, Gip... you have plaques...

    All I got was a decade's worth of paychecks...

    Well....see that seems that is all you got out of your profession.   I am self employed, never got paychecks....except for the small ones from my part time magistrates job.

    I have had to nurture a practice to get paid, thus I have done all that civic duty shite... You know like serving as Board President for like 5 different entities. Serving on City Council, Zoning Boards...etc. etc.   You know, stuff where leadership was required to get things done....even if it meant being the sole "decider". 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Sure, Gip... you have plaques...

    All I got was a decade's worth of paychecks...

    Come on now, the Gipper has a decade's worth of paychecks. Well since 1976 anyway.

    ?

    WSS

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper

    @westside-steve said:

    Come on now, the Gipper has a decade's worth of paychecks. Well since 1976 anyway.

    ?

    WSS

    Well, lets see...just a personal review:    I was getting paychecks in 1976 and in 1977 for 8- months (from ACME) ..then I started law school.   Then went without for the next 9 months.  Got a Clerk job in summer 1978...and had that part time job (2 jobs) until time to take the Bar Exam in 1980.  Then went until Jan. 1984 with no paychecks.   Then got paid a small amount  for City Council...til Jan. 88.    Then went without a paycheck until  June 1991. Since then, I have been receiving small part time paychecks for being Magistrate for 3 different cities. (not all at the same time). Still get them now....but now I get SS.  That started in like just this Feb.  Will also start getting PERS here in May or June.  For purposes of that I am re-employed.  And yes, I guess you can say I am double dipping.

    But those paychecks for Council/Mag. by no means paid the bills.   Only got like 2500-3000 per year.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by

    Look, all I'm gonna say is that if this draft nets us a true to God franchise QB and an elite player at 1/4, along with adding at least one quality player in the 2nd you can't just throw Sashi in the mud. He's directly responsible for this draft, which he lined up intentionally to be this way. Now I would have seriously doubted his pick selections, but he should at least get a foot note.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Sure, Gip... you have plaques...

    All I got was a decade's worth of paychecks...

    Well....see that seems that is all you got out of your profession.   I am self employed, never got paychecks....except for the small ones from my part time magistrates job.

    I have had to nurture a practice to get paid, thus I have done all that civic duty shite... You know like serving as Board President for like 5 different entities. Serving on City Council, Zoning Boards...etc. etc.   You know, stuff where leadership was required to get things done....even if it meant being the sole "decider". 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    Well....see that seems that is all you got out of your profession.   I am self employed, never got paychecks....except for the small ones from my part time magistrates job.

    I have had to nurture a practice to get paid, thus I have done all that civic duty shite... You know like serving as Board President for like 5 different entities. Serving on City Council, Zoning Boards...etc. etc.   You know, stuff where leadership was required to get things done....even if it meant being the sole "decider". 

    Every keystroke continues to prove you have no idea what consensus decision making is about.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Come on now, the Gipper has a decade's worth of paychecks. Well since 1976 anyway.

    ?

    WSS

    Well, lets see...just a personal review:    I was getting paychecks in 1976 and in 1977 for 8- months (from ACME) ..then I started law school.   Then went without for the next 9 months.  Got a Clerk job in summer 1978...and had that part time job (2 jobs) until time to take the Bar Exam in 1980.  Then went until Jan. 1984 with no paychecks.   Then got paid a small amount  for City Council...til Jan. 88.    Then went without a paycheck until  June 1991. Since then, I have been receiving small part time paychecks for being Magistrate for 3 different cities. (not all at the same time). Still get them now....but now I get SS.  That started in like just this Feb.  Will also start getting PERS here in May or June.  For purposes of that I am re-employed.  And yes, I guess you can say I am double dipping.

    But those paychecks for Council/Mag. by no means paid the bills.   Only got like 2500-3000 per year.

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, lets see...just a personal review:    I was getting paychecks in 1976 and in 1977 for 8- months (from ACME) ..then I started law school.   Then went without for the next 9 months.  Got a Clerk job in summer 1978...and had that part time job (2 jobs) until time to take the Bar Exam in 1980.  Then went until Jan. 1984 with no paychecks.   Then got paid a small amount  for City Council...til Jan. 88.    Then went without a paycheck until  June 1991. Since then, I have been receiving small part time paychecks for being Magistrate for 3 different cities. (not all at the same time). Still get them now....but now I get SS.  That started in like just this Feb.  Will also start getting PERS here in May or June.  For purposes of that I am re-employed.  And yes, I guess you can say I am double dipping.

    But those paychecks for Council/Mag. by no means paid the bills.   Only got like 2500-3000 per year.

    ??

    WSS

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well....see that seems that is all you got out of your profession.   I am self employed, never got paychecks....except for the small ones from my part time magistrates job.

    I have had to nurture a practice to get paid, thus I have done all that civic duty shite... You know like serving as Board President for like 5 different entities. Serving on City Council, Zoning Boards...etc. etc.   You know, stuff where leadership was required to get things done....even if it meant being the sole "decider". 

    Every keystroke continues to prove you have no idea what consensus decision making is about.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    Every keystroke continues to prove you have no idea what consensus decision making is about.

    Every keystroke proves that you do not know what leadership decision making is about.  (and over 35 years of experience at it says that I certainly know what consensus decision making is about....and when it can be deployed and when it cannot.  I had to engage in both just this morning.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well, lets see...just a personal review:    I was getting paychecks in 1976 and in 1977 for 8- months (from ACME) ..then I started law school.   Then went without for the next 9 months.  Got a Clerk job in summer 1978...and had that part time job (2 jobs) until time to take the Bar Exam in 1980.  Then went until Jan. 1984 with no paychecks.   Then got paid a small amount  for City Council...til Jan. 88.    Then went without a paycheck until  June 1991. Since then, I have been receiving small part time paychecks for being Magistrate for 3 different cities. (not all at the same time). Still get them now....but now I get SS.  That started in like just this Feb.  Will also start getting PERS here in May or June.  For purposes of that I am re-employed.  And yes, I guess you can say I am double dipping.

    But those paychecks for Council/Mag. by no means paid the bills.   Only got like 2500-3000 per year.

    ??

    WSS

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @westside-steve said:

    ??

    WSS

    What?

  • @tour2ma said:

    Every keystroke continues to prove you have no idea what consensus decision making is about.

    Every keystroke proves that you do not know what leadership decision making is about.  (and over 35 years of experience at it says that I certainly know what consensus decision making is about....and when it can be deployed and when it cannot.  I had to engage in both just this morning.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    Every keystroke proves that you do not know what leadership decision making is about.  (and over 35 years of experience at it says that I certainly know what consensus decision making is about....and when it can be deployed and when it cannot.  I had to engage in both just this morning.

    **Breathlessly awaiting details that will never come.**

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well....see that seems that is all you got out of your profession.   I am self employed, never got paychecks....except for the small ones from my part time magistrates job.

    I have had to nurture a practice to get paid, thus I have done all that civic duty shite... You know like serving as Board President for like 5 different entities. Serving on City Council, Zoning Boards...etc. etc.   You know, stuff where leadership was required to get things done....even if it meant being the sole "decider". 

    Every keystroke continues to prove you have no idea what consensus decision making is about.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta

    @tour2ma said:

    Every keystroke continues to prove you have no idea what consensus decision making is about.

    I know Tour. We're discussed it before. The concept of true consensus decision making is something that's far, far beyond the ability of normal humans being able to grasp. It takes a minimum of a Law degree from Harvard or a PhD from MIT to be able to fully understand it. There has to be a time where there's no consensus, and somebody has to make a decision. If you browbeat the dissenters into your POV, that's not consensus. Or it's three votes for Garrett, 2 for Trubisky- it's Garrett. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Every keystroke continues to prove you have no idea what consensus decision making is about.

    I know Tour. We're discussed it before. The concept of true consensus decision making is something that's far, far beyond the ability of normal humans being able to grasp. It takes a minimum of a Law degree from Harvard or a PhD from MIT to be able to fully understand it. There has to be a time where there's no consensus, and somebody has to make a decision. If you browbeat the dissenters into your POV, that's not consensus. Or it's three votes for Garrett, 2 for Trubisky- it's Garrett. 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @hoorta said:

    There has to be a time where there's no consensus, and somebody has to make a decision.

    Sorry, h., but that's just not the case.

    Failing to reach consensus is a decision... one of two possible decisions. That is what it is hard for some folks to understand.

  • B Bigalow80 wrote on last edited by Bigalow80

    Anyone else find it ironic that the "football guy" just took statistically and analytically the best qb in college fb at #1 DESPITE all the other analysis saying take the other guys? 

  • Anyone else find it ironic that the "football guy" just took statistically and analytically the best qb in college fb at #1 DESPITE all the other analysis saying take the other guys? 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @bigalow80 said:

    Anyone else find it ironic that the "football guy" just took statistically and analytically the best qb in college fb at #1 DESPITE all the other analysis saying take the other guys? 

    Me...

  • Anyone else find it ironic that the "football guy" just took statistically and analytically the best qb in college fb at #1 DESPITE all the other analysis saying take the other guys? 

    Mike HM Mike H wrote on last edited by

    @bigalow80 said:

    Anyone else find it ironic that the "football guy" just took statistically and analytically the best qb in college fb at #1 DESPITE all the other analysis saying take the other guys? 

    Mayfield is a hybrid. I tweeted this earlier... he's right at the intersection of football guy street and data darling avenue.

  • @bigalow80 said:

    Anyone else find it ironic that the "football guy" just took statistically and analytically the best qb in college fb at #1 DESPITE all the other analysis saying take the other guys? 

    Mayfield is a hybrid. I tweeted this earlier... he's right at the intersection of football guy street and data darling avenue.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma

    @mike-h said:

    Mayfield is a hybrid. I tweeted this earlier... he's right at the intersection of football guy street and data darling avenue.

    Stat monster with a football guy attytude...

    Just have a feeling that he's been as good as he's ever gonna be and I'm not confident that the 'tude translates.

  • @mike-h said:

    Mayfield is a hybrid. I tweeted this earlier... he's right at the intersection of football guy street and data darling avenue.

    Stat monster with a football guy attytude...

    Just have a feeling that he's been as good as he's ever gonna be and I'm not confident that the 'tude translates.

    Mike HM Mike H wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    Stat monster with a football guy attytude...

    Just have a feeling that he's been as good as he's ever gonna be and I'm not confident that the 'tude translates.

    If the tude doesn't translate, and he's truly capped out, then he'll come down to earth pretty damn quickly. Let's hope neither are true.

  • Anyone else find it ironic that the "football guy" just took statistically and analytically the best qb in college fb at #1 DESPITE all the other analysis saying take the other guys? 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @bigalow80 said:

    Anyone else find it ironic that the "football guy" just took statistically and analytically the best qb in college fb at #1 DESPITE all the other analysis saying take the other guys? 

    I am not sure ironic is the right word.   Perhaps logical is a better word.