Shmuck you haslem

Canton Dawg

@tour2ma said:

lol... y'all wanted a football guy...

suck it in silence

Actually I don;t think dorsey did too bad.

Same here, Baker wasn't my first choice and a CB was in greater demand than DL.

Canton Mike

What happened to those who GUARANTEED we would draft Darnold because Jimmy sat with his parents at his Pro Day? Is it time to admit you were wrong about Jimmy interfering with the draft? Welcome Baker & a tip of my hat to Jimmy and the folks who are running this draft.

Mike

SissyBoyFloyd

Like I said in the 'One Word' thread, it is just purely Unimaginative. Maybe it turns out great. Time will tell. I can give a pass on the Mayfield pick since everyone had a different opinion of who or which QB turns out to be the best. It was a tough choice. Personally, I preferred Darnold, but still it is only a guess. For all we know, Rosen may very well turn out to be the next Brady.

Now the pick at 1.4 is a head scratcher. I can only imagine what the board room or front office's conversation was like ..... short and sweet! "Well guys, our top need is now at CB. Who is the top rated one? Ward? Right! Okay, it's Ward then. Anyone object? No, okay we take Ward, a no brainer!"

Instead of someone reminding them all that, like WR, CB is one of the two deepest positions in the draft and we could get a good solid starter at CB and WR in R2. But what we can't get later in the draft is anyone remotely as good as Chubb. Heck, even James or Nelson could be called 1 in a 1000 pick and warrant being taken ahead of a CB. Let's not dummy it down to just considering what our top need might be. Let's talk this thing through all the way.

Did they do that? Who really knows?

hoorta

@stinkhole said:

I think you're right again. Mayfield is overrated. Yeah he is accurate ...but as a dink and dunk passer ...not impressive.

You obviously didn't watch much tape on Mayfield. He can toss accurate 40- 50 yard passes. OTOH, that Howitzer Arm feller Allen is going to find out there's not enough time in the NFL to let those 80 yard patterns develop. Really, how many times in an average game are you throwing those deep routes?

@falcon7 said:

Alexander is as good as Ward, maybe better and he went 18th. I don't get it...

Darnold & Chubb should have been the picks. Another F-Up, but I would love to be wrong!

Time will tell if Mayfield turns out better than Darnold. But regarding Ward- Alexander, that would have been moot if we had taken Chubb. Would have had to give up a ton to get back into the mid first round.

DieHardBrownsFan

@poeticg said:

I'm happy that we got Mayfield. I think he's going to give us some fire.

Can't have everything but 1 out of 2 guys I was hoping for is pretty good.

Hope Hyde and Duke ball out this year.

Mayfield once he starts will be a legendary Browns QB, bank it.

syd

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Mayfield once he starts will be a legendary Browns QB, bank it.

it's" book it" not" bank it" (you just make yourself sound ignorant) the saying go's" you can take that to the bank" or" put that in your pipe and smoke it" if you are trying to use a ! at the end of a sentence

DieHardBrownsFan

@syd said:

it's" book it" not" bank it" (you just make yourself sound ignorant) the saying go's" you can take that to the bank" or" put that in your pipe and smoke it" if you are trying to use a ! at the end of a sentence

Eat Sheet.

syd

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Eat Sheet.

na man that seems to be your weapon of choice

DieHardBrownsFan

You mad brah? Just stfu and ignore me then, otherwise piss off.

Tour2ma

@hoorta said:

Funny thing is Tour- for being a "Football Guy", Dorsey took the player the analytics said was far and away the right pick... Hat's off to you for nailing Ward over Chubb....

Appreciate it, h... even if it was a blind hog thing...

As for analytics... still have to set that 6' thing aside, but yeah once past that the data said go. I do wonder how much less the comfort level would be around here if this was Sashi's draft.

@babernakle said:

None of what he did in college will work in the nfl he’s not fast has not an elite athlete like Wilson defenses will have a day with him

True... he can't play like Wilson. So the question is can he develop as Brees did?

Tour2ma

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Mayfield once he starts will be a legendary Browns QB, bank it.

Certainly will have better odds of being so than before he starts...

Tour2ma

@browns149 said:

A cb can’t touch a wr. They impact the game way less then a pass rusher

The so called shutdown cb era in the nfl is over

The 5-yd rule has been revoked?

tiamat63

@browns149 said:

A cb can’t touch a wr. They impact the game way less then a pass rusher

The so called shutdown cb era in the nfl is over

I guess Marshon Lattimore missed that.

syd

@tiamat63 said:

I guess Marshon Lattimore missed that.

you mean the defensive rookie of the year Lattimore ?

Dutch Oven

@diehardbrownsfan said:

You mad brah? Just stfu and ignore me then, otherwise piss off.

What a snowflake you are.

tiamat63

@syd said:

you mean the defensive rookie of the year Lattimore ?

funny you mention it, that same one.

I see you've been to a seminar yourself.

syd

@tiamat63 said:

funny you mention it, that same one.

I see you've been to a seminar yourself.

now please convince me that Mayfield was the right choice

tiamat63

@syd said:

now please convince me that Mayfield was the right choice

I defer you to the "Baker Mayfield thread" and all the resident OU fans that will be sure to join us soon.

I can't and won't.

Babernakle

@tour2ma said:

Appreciate it, h... even if it was a blind hog thing...

As for analytics... still have to set that 6' thing aside, but yeah once past that the data said go. I do wonder how much less the comfort level would be around here if this was Sashi's draft.

True... he can't play like Wilson. So the question is can he develop as Brees did?

He can’t he runs to throw problem is he is slow

Tacosman

@babernakle said:

He can’t he runs to throw problem is he is slow

I think it is a safe bet to say he has a poor chance to develop like brees....because brees is brees. For every 6' qb with non-elite athleticism and a non-bazooka arm over the last 25 years that became drew brees, there were EVERY SINGLE OTHER QB WHO FITS THAT MOLD WHO DIDN'T. Because there is only one drew brees.

Whereas if we want to find good outcome scenarios for josh rosen we can easily pair him up with plenty of other pro bowl type people who he could reasonably match up with if things go well.

I just find wild best guess scenarios to be almost not worth considering.

I think we are looking at a slighty less athletic jeff garcia(for the few years garcia was solid) as the most likely scenario. And I wouldnt be dissapointed if thats what we get. It would be an upgrade over what we have had for pretty much ever. Is it worth the #1 pick? I guess not...but I don't think it's fair to hold mayfield to that standard....he's a 6'0 qb without great athleticism who walked on in college. Its not his fault he was drafted #1 overall. If he becomes the 49ers version of jeff garcia thats a damn good outcome for him