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  • Like I said in the 'One Word' thread, it is just purely Unimaginative.  Maybe it turns out great.  Time will tell.  I can give a pass on the Mayfield pick since everyone had a different opinion of who or which QB turns out to be the best.  It was a tough choice.  Personally, I preferred Darnold, but still it is only a guess.  For all we know, Rosen may very well turn out to be the next Brady.

    Now the pick at 1.4 is a head scratcher.  I can only imagine what the board room or front office's conversation was like ..... short and sweet!  "Well guys, our top need is now at CB.  Who is the top rated one?  Ward?  Right!  Okay, it's Ward then.  Anyone object?  No, okay we take Ward, a no brainer!"

    Instead of someone reminding them all that, like WR, CB is one of the two deepest positions in the draft and we could get a good solid starter at CB and WR in R2.  But what we can't get later in the draft is anyone remotely as good as Chubb.  Heck, even James or Nelson could be called 1 in a 1000 pick and warrant being taken ahead of a CB.  Let's not dummy it down to just considering what our top need might be.  Let's talk this thing through all the way.

    Did they do that?  Who really knows? 

  • @ghoolie said:

    IN DORSEY YOU TRUST? 

    Laughing my fauhking butt off.......................... YOU use the #1...................... for a fauhking guy who would have been there at 10 - 12? 

    This is too fauhking hilarious even for Ghoolie Antics. How the fauhk can you be that stpuid.

    I think you're right again. Mayfield is overrated. Yeah he is accurate ...but as a dink and dunk passer ...not impressive.

    @stinkhole said:

    I think you're right again. Mayfield is overrated. Yeah he is accurate ...but as a dink and dunk passer ...not impressive.

    You obviously didn't watch much tape on Mayfield. He can toss accurate 40- 50 yard passes. OTOH, that Howitzer Arm feller Allen is going to find out there's not enough time in the NFL to let those 80 yard patterns develop. Really, how many times in an average game are you throwing those deep routes?  

    @falcon7 said:

    Alexander is as good as Ward, maybe better and he went 18th. I don't get it...

    Darnold & Chubb should have been the picks.  Another F-Up, but I would love to be wrong!

    Time will tell if Mayfield turns out better than Darnold. But regarding Ward- Alexander, that would have been moot if we had taken Chubb. Would have had to give up a ton to get back into the mid first round. 

  • I'm happy that we got Mayfield. I think he's going to give us some fire. 

    Can't have everything but 1 out of 2 guys I was hoping for is pretty good. 

    Hope Hyde and Duke ball out this year. 

    @poeticg said:

    I'm happy that we got Mayfield. I think he's going to give us some fire. 

    Can't have everything but 1 out of 2 guys I was hoping for is pretty good. 

    Hope Hyde and Duke ball out this year. 

    Mayfield once he starts will be a legendary Browns QB, bank it.

  • @poeticg said:

    I'm happy that we got Mayfield. I think he's going to give us some fire. 

    Can't have everything but 1 out of 2 guys I was hoping for is pretty good. 

    Hope Hyde and Duke ball out this year. 

    Mayfield once he starts will be a legendary Browns QB, bank it.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Mayfield once he starts will be a legendary Browns QB, bank it.

    it's" book it" not" bank it" (you just make yourself sound ignorant) the saying go's" you can take that to the bank" or" put that in your pipe and smoke it" if you are trying to use a ! at the end of a sentence 

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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Mayfield once he starts will be a legendary Browns QB, bank it.

    it's" book it" not" bank it" (you just make yourself sound ignorant) the saying go's" you can take that to the bank" or" put that in your pipe and smoke it" if you are trying to use a ! at the end of a sentence 

    @syd said:

    it's" book it" not" bank it" (you just make yourself sound ignorant) the saying go's" you can take that to the bank" or" put that in your pipe and smoke it" if you are trying to use a ! at the end of a sentence 

    Eat Sheet.

  • @syd said:

    it's" book it" not" bank it" (you just make yourself sound ignorant) the saying go's" you can take that to the bank" or" put that in your pipe and smoke it" if you are trying to use a ! at the end of a sentence 

    Eat Sheet.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Eat Sheet.

    na man that seems to be your weapon of choice 

  • You mad brah?  Just stfu and ignore me then, otherwise piss off.

  • @tour2ma said:

    lol... y'all wanted a football guy...

    suck it in silence

    Actually I don;t think dorsey did too bad.

    Funny thing is Tour- for being a "Football Guy", Dorsey took the player the analytics said was far and away the right pick... Hat's off to you for nailing Ward over Chubb....   

    @hoorta said:

    Funny thing is Tour- for being a "Football Guy", Dorsey took the player the analytics said was far and away the right pick... Hat's off to you for nailing Ward over Chubb....   

    Appreciate it, h... even if it was a blind hog thing...

    As for analytics... still have to set that 6' thing aside, but yeah once past that the data said go. I do wonder how much less the comfort level would be around here if this was Sashi's draft. 😮

    @babernakle said:

    None of what he did in college will work in the nfl he’s not fast has not an elite athlete like Wilson defenses will have a day with him 

    True... he can't play like Wilson. So the question is can he develop as Brees did?

  • @poeticg said:

    I'm happy that we got Mayfield. I think he's going to give us some fire. 

    Can't have everything but 1 out of 2 guys I was hoping for is pretty good. 

    Hope Hyde and Duke ball out this year. 

    Mayfield once he starts will be a legendary Browns QB, bank it.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Mayfield once he starts will be a legendary Browns QB, bank it.

    Certainly will have better odds of being so than before he starts... 😉

  • A cb can’t touch a wr.  They impact the game way less then a pass rusher

    The so called shutdown cb era in the nfl is over

    @browns149 said:

    A cb can’t touch a wr.  They impact the game way less then a pass rusher

    The so called shutdown cb era in the nfl is over

    The 5-yd rule has been revoked? 😎

  • A cb can’t touch a wr.  They impact the game way less then a pass rusher

    The so called shutdown cb era in the nfl is over

    @browns149 said:

    A cb can’t touch a wr.  They impact the game way less then a pass rusher

    The so called shutdown cb era in the nfl is over

    I guess Marshon Lattimore missed that.

  • @browns149 said:

    A cb can’t touch a wr.  They impact the game way less then a pass rusher

    The so called shutdown cb era in the nfl is over

    I guess Marshon Lattimore missed that.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I guess Marshon Lattimore missed that.

    you mean the defensive rookie of the year Lattimore ? 

  • You mad brah?  Just stfu and ignore me then, otherwise piss off.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You mad brah?  Just stfu and ignore me then, otherwise piss off.

    What a snowflake you are. 

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    @tiamat63 said:

    I guess Marshon Lattimore missed that.

    you mean the defensive rookie of the year Lattimore ? 

    @syd said:

    you mean the defensive rookie of the year Lattimore ? 

    funny you mention it, that same one.

    I see you've been to a seminar yourself.  

  • @syd said:

    you mean the defensive rookie of the year Lattimore ? 

    funny you mention it, that same one.

    I see you've been to a seminar yourself.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    funny you mention it, that same one.

    I see you've been to a seminar yourself.  

    now please convince me that Mayfield was the right choice

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    @tiamat63 said:

    funny you mention it, that same one.

    I see you've been to a seminar yourself.  

    now please convince me that Mayfield was the right choice

    @syd said:

    now please convince me that Mayfield was the right choice

    I defer you to the "Baker Mayfield thread" and all the resident OU fans that will be sure to join us soon.

    I can't and won't. 

  • @hoorta said:

    Funny thing is Tour- for being a "Football Guy", Dorsey took the player the analytics said was far and away the right pick... Hat's off to you for nailing Ward over Chubb....   

    Appreciate it, h... even if it was a blind hog thing...

    As for analytics... still have to set that 6' thing aside, but yeah once past that the data said go. I do wonder how much less the comfort level would be around here if this was Sashi's draft. 😮

    @babernakle said:

    None of what he did in college will work in the nfl he’s not fast has not an elite athlete like Wilson defenses will have a day with him 

    True... he can't play like Wilson. So the question is can he develop as Brees did?

    @tour2ma said:

    Appreciate it, h... even if it was a blind hog thing...

    As for analytics... still have to set that 6' thing aside, but yeah once past that the data said go. I do wonder how much less the comfort level would be around here if this was Sashi's draft. 😮

    True... he can't play like Wilson. So the question is can he develop as Brees did?

    He can’t he runs to throw problem is he is slow 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Appreciate it, h... even if it was a blind hog thing...

    As for analytics... still have to set that 6' thing aside, but yeah once past that the data said go. I do wonder how much less the comfort level would be around here if this was Sashi's draft. 😮

    True... he can't play like Wilson. So the question is can he develop as Brees did?

    He can’t he runs to throw problem is he is slow 

    @babernakle said:

    He can’t he runs to throw problem is he is slow 

      I think it is a safe bet to say he has a poor chance to develop like brees....because brees is brees.  For every 6' qb with non-elite athleticism and a non-bazooka arm over the last 25 years that became drew brees, there were EVERY SINGLE OTHER QB WHO FITS THAT MOLD WHO DIDN'T.  Because there is only one drew brees.

    Whereas if we want to find good outcome scenarios for josh rosen we can easily pair him up with plenty of other pro bowl type people who he could reasonably match up with if things go well.

    I just find wild best guess scenarios to be almost not worth considering.  

    I think we are looking at a slighty less athletic jeff garcia(for the few years garcia was solid) as the most likely scenario.  And I wouldnt be dissapointed if thats what we get.  It would be an upgrade over what we have had for pretty much ever.  Is it worth the #1 pick?  I guess not...but I don't think it's fair to hold mayfield to that standard....he's a 6'0 qb without great athleticism who walked on in college.  Its not his fault he was drafted #1 overall.  If he becomes the 49ers version of jeff garcia thats a damn good outcome for him

  • From an outside view....

    1.  The Browns took the right QB.  If the guy was even listed as 6'1" and a half...there wouldn't have been a discussion of who is no.1...it would be Mayfield.  The guy played a million reps in College, got better every year, and had a very high completion pct.  He has the it factor...and he's quite a bit more into X's and O's than Johny football if that is what you folks are worried about.  You also just signed the worlds most expensive possesion WR to big money....you got the right QB to find that guy and make him look like that contract is worth it.  

    2.  The Giants are going to regret this draft day.  Not because Barkley isn't a good player...he will be good...probalby Reggie Bush good...maybe even better than that.  He certainly has a lot of skills to like. a lot of film to like..but he plays a position that was A) very deep in this draft and B ) has a short life span in the NFL..and C) is more committee based than  it's ever been....Even backs like Barkley are not that hard to come by....several great backs recenltly have been drafted later on..they just aren't that uncommon to find.  What is HARD AS HELL to find is a franchise QB.  They are rare and even when you take one up at the top of a draft, you chance of success is less than 50/50....and it just gets worse the further along you go.  next year or 2 years from now the Giants will be done with Eli and will be trying to figure out how to replace him and with who and how to get a high enough pick to get whoever that is....when they could have just used the 2nd overall pick in this draft and selected Darnold, or Rosen and had the guy ready to go.  If you don't go QB there, at least you go Chubb...because while easier to find than a QB...good edge rushers are at a premium...and they needed one.  HORRIBLE mistake here for the Giants.

    I haven't been here long enough to see what Ghoolies history is about predicting future success of draft picks...but if he was all in on Paxton Lynch and Mitch Trubisky....then that is some funny Schidt (is that the proper term here?)

    Best of luck to you Cleveland....glad you passed on Mahomes..but I think you made the right call this time with Baker...hope you all are still struggling to get it together by the time we (KC) plays you.  I think you all are going to have one more season of misery while you develop the young roster and Dorsey can finaly fire Hugh...2019 should be the end of the nightmare.  Best regards.  

  • I haven't been here long enough to see what Ghoolies history is about predicting future success of draft picks...but if he was all in on Paxton Lynch and Mitch Trubisky....then that is some funny Schidt (is that the proper term here?)

    Lynch not so much.  Trubisky will be very good imo.

    As for Ghoolie's past predictive history.....here is where we get a lot of revisionist history.  "I said ten years ago that  xyz would happen...and by god xyz did happen (except....he may have actually said that abc will happen...not xyz)...but we ain't going back 10 years to verify things.