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  • @texasag1969 said:

    I agree Tom. But a ban for it? (I know you did not suggest that). Nah. But certainly reprimands from other members like myself and others. Doesn't mean he gets it yet, but he should. There are some things that are sacrosanct.

    Actually, I never said a negative word towards his mother (unlike Ghoolie, who I believe multiple times said that I fellated my mother's penis). So apparently mothers are NOT out of bounds, are they?

    No, he got all bent out of shape because likely I hit upon a kernel of truth regarding him. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Actually, I never said a negative word towards his mother (unlike Ghoolie, who I believe multiple times said that I fellated my mother's penis). So apparently mothers are NOT out of bounds, are they?

    No, he got all bent out of shape because likely I hit upon a kernel of truth regarding him. 

    Like I said, doesn't mean you get it. Add in a mourning period and maybe you'll understand. Even Tom has a mourning period, though you may not believe that. I do.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Actually, I never said a negative word towards his mother (unlike Ghoolie, who I believe multiple times said that I fellated my mother's penis). So apparently mothers are NOT out of bounds, are they?

    No, he got all bent out of shape because likely I hit upon a kernel of truth regarding him. 

    Like I said, doesn't mean you get it. Add in a mourning period and maybe you'll understand. Even Tom has a mourning period, though you may not believe that. I do.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Like I said, doesn't mean you get it. Add in a mourning period and maybe you'll understand. Even Tom has a mourning period, though you may not believe that. I do.

    Keep enabling his bad behavior, TexAg. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Like I said, doesn't mean you get it. Add in a mourning period and maybe you'll understand. Even Tom has a mourning period, though you may not believe that. I do.

    Keep enabling his bad behavior, TexAg. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Keep enabling his bad behavior, TexAg. 

    At this point I'm trying not to enable yours. I give Tom Sheet here and there from time to time. Usually you I agree with. Just not on this.

  • @darren15 said:

    We should of gone for a big armed tall QB who would do well in the conditions.....someone like Brando Weeden or DeShone Kizer 🙂

    It's either/or for you guys, huh?

    It's amazing how Baker had some support as the guy the Browns should draft #1 before the draft, but now he's a great pick by a big portion of people on here.

    It's like I've seen this scenario before... oh yeah, when the Browns drafted Brandon Weeden. Before the draft, a few people liked him. After? Well yeah, he's almost 30, and he plays in a garbage conference, but I see great things from Weeden! by masses of Browns fans. Magically, because the Browns drafted him, all objectivity went out the door. 

    Browns fans are consistent, if they are anything. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    It's amazing how Baker had some support as the guy the Browns should draft #1 before the draft, but now he's a great pick by a big portion of people on here.

    It's like I've seen this scenario before... oh yeah, when the Browns drafted Brandon Weeden. Before the draft, a few people liked him. After? Well yeah, he's almost 30, and he plays in a garbage conference, but I see great things from Weeden! by masses of Browns fans. Magically, because the Browns drafted him, all objectivity went out the door. 

    Browns fans are consistent, if they are anything. 

    Semi-fair comment, but were you even here when we drafted Wheezy? There were few that embraced him pre-draft. There were more than a few who "he's ours now" embraced him. But there were a lot of us who were confident he was the mistake he turned out to be.

    It's different with Baker. He was the #1 choice with some here, but the #2 with a lot more of us. In my case while some interview footage turned me off of him a bit more late, some I've seen since we drafted him is making me feel better. Still think there's a fatal flaw or two to put to rest, i.e., channeling his in-game emotions when the D he's facing gets in his head as they will early and often, but I'm OK with the probability of that happening in time.

  • I don't get the mayfield is athletic talk.  He's not.  He's not even the athlete Manziel was.  When you watch baker against nfl DE's and LB's, you'll see how slow he is in game speed.

    Slow and small is generally not a great combination in the nfl, even at qb.  

    Im not concerned at all about the so called character issues.  And character issues had little to do with manziel's downfall....manziel just wasnt good enough.  

    @tacosman said:

    I don't get the mayfield is athletic talk.  He's not.  He's not even the athlete Manziel was.  When you watch baker against nfl DE's and LB's, you'll see how slow he is in game speed.

    Slow and small is generally not a great combination in the nfl, even at qb.  

    Im not concerned at all about the so called character issues.  And character issues had little to do with manziel's downfall....manziel just wasnt good enough.  

    "Manziel's character head little to do with his downfall" - TacoCabana should be immortalized in our Hall of Bad Posts.

    I do agree that Baker is much less athletic than JFF, which is why Baker had to learn how to play QB to the extent he has.

    @the-gipper said:

    No one in this draft not a single person was number one overall caliber and I include Berkeley and that so and chips so we have to do what we have to doNo one in this draft not a single person was number one overall caliber and I include Berkeley and that so and chips so we have to do what we have to do

    Bullsh!t! Bullsh!t!

  • Gipper I don't know what kind of phone you have but I think it probably needs a system update. Mine used to do that all the time repeating whatever I dictated. 

    WSS

  • @dutch-oven said:

    It's amazing how Baker had some support as the guy the Browns should draft #1 before the draft, but now he's a great pick by a big portion of people on here.

    It's like I've seen this scenario before... oh yeah, when the Browns drafted Brandon Weeden. Before the draft, a few people liked him. After? Well yeah, he's almost 30, and he plays in a garbage conference, but I see great things from Weeden! by masses of Browns fans. Magically, because the Browns drafted him, all objectivity went out the door. 

    Browns fans are consistent, if they are anything. 

    Semi-fair comment, but were you even here when we drafted Wheezy? There were few that embraced him pre-draft. There were more than a few who "he's ours now" embraced him. But there were a lot of us who were confident he was the mistake he turned out to be.

    It's different with Baker. He was the #1 choice with some here, but the #2 with a lot more of us. In my case while some interview footage turned me off of him a bit more late, some I've seen since we drafted him is making me feel better. Still think there's a fatal flaw or two to put to rest, i.e., channeling his in-game emotions when the D he's facing gets in his head as they will early and often, but I'm OK with the probability of that happening in time.

    @tour2ma said:

    Semi-fair comment, but were you even here when we drafted Wheezy? There were few that embraced him pre-draft. There were more than a few who "he's ours now" embraced him. But there were a lot of us who were confident he was the mistake he turned out to be.

    I'm sorry, that was vague, it was on the message board mjp, Coyote and I were previously on for years that generally wanted nothing to do with Weeden on Wednesday before the draft, but by Friday morning miraculously "slept on it" and decided it was a shrewd move by the Browns. I see a similar reaction to Mayfield. I'm not expecting people to riot, but just asking for a little consistency. 

    I'm intrigued by the Baker Mayfield Experiment. He was definitely 3rd on my list, but he's not Josh Allen, so thank dog for small miracles... 😆

  • I would say fail for drew lock but it’s certainty that they will fail dumbShmuck fan boys will scream for mayfield he will fail and we will get the first pick next year but the browns will muck that up too

  • Gipper I don't know what kind of phone you have but I think it probably needs a system update. Mine used to do that all the time repeating whatever I dictated. 

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Gipper I don't know what kind of phone you have but I think it probably needs a system update. Mine used to do that all the time repeating whatever I dictated. 

    WSS

    Probably right probably right probably rightProbably right probably right probably

  • Dude, stop. Cry into your beer but stop making useless threads. 

  • Go Cavs.

  • I would say fail for drew lock but it’s certainty that they will fail dumbShmuck fan boys will scream for mayfield he will fail and we will get the first pick next year but the browns will muck that up too

    @babernakle said:

    I would say fail for drew lock but it’s certainty that they will fail dumbShmuck fan boys will scream for mayfield he will fail and we will get the first pick next year but the browns will muck that up too

    Not to worry, soon enough Gordon, Callaway and the midget will no doubt be busted partying and smoking dope and suspended for the season and we will be in prime position to draft more Sheet players next year. 

  • I would say fail for drew lock but it’s certainty that they will fail dumbShmuck fan boys will scream for mayfield he will fail and we will get the first pick next year but the browns will muck that up too

    @babernakle said:

    I would say fail for drew lock but it’s certainty that they will fail dumbShmuck fan boys will scream for mayfield he will fail and we will get the first pick next year but the browns will muck that up too

    Then turn in your fan card if you so badly want the Browns to have another horrible season, just because you don't like Mayfield. 

    Look- I absolutely hated us picking Kizer, but I sure didn't want the Browns to go 0-16 just to prove my prognosticating correct. At least I waited until Kizer had several bad games in a row before the "Suck for Sam" started coming out. 

  • @babernakle said:

    I would say fail for drew lock but it’s certainty that they will fail dumbShmuck fan boys will scream for mayfield he will fail and we will get the first pick next year but the browns will muck that up too

    Not to worry, soon enough Gordon, Callaway and the midget will no doubt be busted partying and smoking dope and suspended for the season and we will be in prime position to draft more Sheet players next year. 

    @vikingdawg said:

    Not to worry, soon enough Gordon, Callaway and the midget will no doubt be busted partying and smoking dope and suspended for the season and we will be in prime position to draft more Sheet players next year. 

    I need to start a Eeyore Club for a couple of you guys. What's next, hoping Hue drowns when he jumps in the Lake? 

    Image result for eeyore

  • The fact you are trying to rationalize cheering for dirtbags says more about you than us. 

  • @tacosman said:

    I don't get the mayfield is athletic talk.  He's not.  He's not even the athlete Manziel was.  When you watch baker against nfl DE's and LB's, you'll see how slow he is in game speed.

    Slow and small is generally not a great combination in the nfl, even at qb.  

    Im not concerned at all about the so called character issues.  And character issues had little to do with manziel's downfall....manziel just wasnt good enough.  

    "Manziel's character head little to do with his downfall" - TacoCabana should be immortalized in our Hall of Bad Posts.

    I do agree that Baker is much less athletic than JFF, which is why Baker had to learn how to play QB to the extent he has.

    @the-gipper said:

    No one in this draft not a single person was number one overall caliber and I include Berkeley and that so and chips so we have to do what we have to doNo one in this draft not a single person was number one overall caliber and I include Berkeley and that so and chips so we have to do what we have to do

    Bullsh!t! Bullsh!t!

    @tour2ma said:

    "Manziel's character head little to do with his downfall" - TacoCabana should be immortalized in our Hall of Bad Posts.

    I do agree that Baker is much less athletic than JFF, which is why Baker had to learn how to play QB to the extent he has.

    Nonsense....Johnny's character WOULD HAVE prevented him from being good, but character issues aside JM didn't have the requisite nfl skill set anyways.  

    JM was another undersized qb with an unfavorable release point to boot who had an average arm.  He could have been the highest character guy ever and still wouldn't have been shite as an nfl qb, thus it had little to do with his inability to be a successful nfl qb.  It had a lot to do with amplifying all the negativity and bad press, but that has nothing to do  with my origina statement.  

    We'll see on Baker....I think the most likely comp is Jeff Garcia.  If he turns out to be that I'd be content.  

  • The fact you are trying to rationalize cheering for dirtbags says more about you than us. 

    @vikingdawg said:

    The fact you are trying to rationalize cheering for dirtbags says more about you than us. 

    Kid gets busted once for drunk and disorderly and he's a dirtbag?  Sad if you want to say Callaway doesn't need a chance to turn his life around. Nah- doper and low quality criminal. The Bengals are the leader in the clubhouse for taking chances on guys with shady pasts- or presents. Forget about Joe Mixon already? Cinci would have no fans left if they all felt like you. 

    @vikingdawg said:

    Lucking into Ray Lewis did wonders for dumbphuck Ozzie. 

    You would have hated being a Ravens fan with this dirtbag on your team... 

  • The fact you are trying to rationalize cheering for dirtbags says more about you than us. 

    @vikingdawg said:

    The fact you are trying to rationalize cheering for dirtbags says more about you than us. 

    Baker was my #3 QB, and while I was disappointed, it is what it is.

    Pray tell who did you want, since no one ever saw you on this board until you started throwing hissy fits this weekend?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I agree Tom. But a ban for it? (I know you did not suggest that). Nah. But certainly reprimands from other members like myself and others. Doesn't mean he gets it yet, but he should. There are some things that are sacrosanct.

    Actually, I never said a negative word towards his mother (unlike Ghoolie, who I believe multiple times said that I fellated my mother's penis). So apparently mothers are NOT out of bounds, are they?

    No, he got all bent out of shape because likely I hit upon a kernel of truth regarding him. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Actually, I never said a negative word towards his mother (unlike Ghoolie, who I believe multiple times said that I fellated my mother's penis). So apparently mothers are NOT out of bounds, are they?

    No, he got all bent out of shape because likely I hit upon a kernel of truth regarding him. 

    DUDE............. GROW THE FUKC UP.  Fellating your mother's penis is NOT an insult to your family. "Mother" insults are totally acceptable in the "locker room". There is a difference between "your mother" jokes, and SPECIFICALLY hurling an insult that is connected to REAL WORLD circumstances involving someone's Mother, that you are fully aware of. Had you told me, "Ghoolie, go suck your Mothers nasty tiddies", you would have made a locker room joke. However, when you celebrate my Mom's death, suggesting she is relieved now? You showed yourself as a foot-stomping child, so blinded by a Browns temper tantrum that you are unable to separate reality from fantasy.

    901 94 2128.  Call me and tell me about my dead Mother. Show me what kind of a tough guy you are. Tell us your name, show us your picture, expose where your life as I have. C'mon  Same thing I tell Zomblow, you're tough? I am an open invitation. Otherwise, grow up and learn the difference between bullschidt and real life.

    Me, a troll? Yeah, for people so worked up over an idiotic football team that they have to block posters, complain to moderators, and even, in the case of Hoorta, a friend who I adore, complain to his wife. Dude.................... lighten up.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Actually, I never said a negative word towards his mother (unlike Ghoolie, who I believe multiple times said that I fellated my mother's penis). So apparently mothers are NOT out of bounds, are they?

    No, he got all bent out of shape because likely I hit upon a kernel of truth regarding him. 

    DUDE............. GROW THE FUKC UP.  Fellating your mother's penis is NOT an insult to your family. "Mother" insults are totally acceptable in the "locker room". There is a difference between "your mother" jokes, and SPECIFICALLY hurling an insult that is connected to REAL WORLD circumstances involving someone's Mother, that you are fully aware of. Had you told me, "Ghoolie, go suck your Mothers nasty tiddies", you would have made a locker room joke. However, when you celebrate my Mom's death, suggesting she is relieved now? You showed yourself as a foot-stomping child, so blinded by a Browns temper tantrum that you are unable to separate reality from fantasy.

    901 94 2128.  Call me and tell me about my dead Mother. Show me what kind of a tough guy you are. Tell us your name, show us your picture, expose where your life as I have. C'mon  Same thing I tell Zomblow, you're tough? I am an open invitation. Otherwise, grow up and learn the difference between bullschidt and real life.

    Me, a troll? Yeah, for people so worked up over an idiotic football team that they have to block posters, complain to moderators, and even, in the case of Hoorta, a friend who I adore, complain to his wife. Dude.................... lighten up.

    @ghoolie said:

    DUDE............. GROW THE FUKC UP.  Fellating your mother's penis is NOT an insult to your family. "Mother" insults are totally acceptable in the "locker room". There is a difference between "your mother" jokes, and SPECIFICALLY hurling an insult that is connected to REAL WORLD circumstances involving someone's Mother, that you are fully aware of. Had you told me, "Ghoolie, go suck your Mothers nasty tiddies", you would have made a locker room joke. However, when you celebrate my Mom's death, suggesting she is relieved now? You showed yourself as a foot-stomping child, so blinded by a Browns temper tantrum that you are unable to separate reality from fantasy.

    901 94 2128.  Call me and tell me about my dead Mother. Show me what kind of a tough guy you are. Tell us your name, show us your picture, expose where your life as I have. C'mon  Same thing I tell Zomblow, you're tough? I am an open invitation. Otherwise, grow up and learn the difference between bullschidt and real life.

    Me, a troll? Yeah, for people so worked up over an idiotic football team that they have to block posters, complain to moderators, and even, in the case of Hoorta, a friend who I adore, complain to his wife. Dude.................... lighten up.

    You literally begged the owner of this board to let you back on after getting kicked off because you need attention so bad. 

    And in your white trash, Polack world talking Sheet about one's mother might be "locker talk", you talk Sheet to an Italian about his "mother's penis being in his mouth" and some hunter will piss on your bones in some forgotten acre of the woods. 

    Nice phone number by the way. Most phone numbers I know of have an area code followed by seven digits. 

    You are a racist, homophobic attention whore bigot. I don't give two happy Shmucks about you or your feelings. The only reason "Nice Ghoolie' has re-emerged is that EVERY prediction you made about the Browns draft didn't come true so you are hoping no one calls you out on your cowpoop.