Mayfield is no Brees
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The point I made earlier is that where was it ever stated that Dorsey was looking to duplicate Brees? I never heard Dorsey mention Brees. Did you? Is it something I missed? Dorsey drafted Mayfield because he believes the kid can play and lead.
If height and arm strength were indicators of success, Paxton Lynch would be a SB champ by now. Mayfield was not my pick, but then again, I didn't have a pick, neither did anyone else.
Dorsey never said that- but then again, he didn't have to. The comparison is obvious, at least from a physical standpoint. Hmm, now that I looked, Baker's college stats are even better than Drew's, but that was a different era of football. Offensive Big 10 player of the Year, and held the passing yards record until JT Barrett broke it this past year.... I hope that's what we just drafted Tom. If we get a HOFer and a Super Bowl out of it, we've done well.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/drew-brees-1.html
Dorsey never said that- but then again, he didn't have to. The comparison is obvious, at least from a physical standpoint. Hmm, now that I looked, Baker's college stats are even better than Drew's, but that was a different era of football. Offensive Big 10 player of the Year, and held the passing yards record until JT Barrett broke it this past year.... I hope that's what we just drafted Tom. If we get a HOFer and a Super Bowl out of it, we've done well.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/drew-brees-1.html
Larry, again, this is the time of year where I just give the guys a chance, I can call Garrett a Zumba, and be pissed at his Cowboys antics, but that's just me. The guy needs to amaze us. As you recall, I insulted Kizer, but I also called for him to get a real shot, without Hues BS. Same thing here. All the analytic BS needs to go away. THe only thing that matters is how this kid plays and leads the team. Nobody here, nor on the Browns staff knows that. We rolled the dice, just like eveyrone else.
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LOL- that wasn't directed at you- this time....
Well, I just lambasted Dutch oven. Bringing my Dead Mother into this, is out of bounds.
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Well, I just lambasted Dutch oven. Bringing my Dead Mother into this, is out of bounds.
Ah, did the big bad troll get his lil' feelings hurt? Now you think you can dictate rules of conduct on here? You playing the victim, ha!
It's hilarious when blowhards like you that think they are big Sheet get it handed back to them. Now there are limits to what can be said? This coming from you?
Hilarious.
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Look at you. You are not the stereotypical woman but you make it work. You like the penis, and you HAVE a penis. Most would say yuck, but you have people like Cysco Clit who like that you always have vaseline with you.
Look, man, don't be slapping the football out of Mayfield's hands before he even has a chance to throw it. You don't see me coming in here and slapping the penis out of your hand, do you?
The silver lining of all your family members passing away in the last year is that they are no longer burdened with you anymore.
That must be comforting.
The silver lining of all your family members passing away in the last year is that they are no longer burdened with you anymore.
That must be comforting.
This is some classless bullish!t. Talking Sh!t back and forth is one thing but this is out of bounds. Who the fuk says Sh!t like this?? You should be ashamed of yourself. This should not be tolerated on this board at all.
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The silver lining of all your family members passing away in the last year is that they are no longer burdened with you anymore.
That must be comforting.
This is some classless bullish!t. Talking Sh!t back and forth is one thing but this is out of bounds. Who the fuk says Sh!t like this?? You should be ashamed of yourself. This should not be tolerated on this board at all.
This is some classless bullish!t. Talking Sheet back and forth is one thing but this is out of bounds. Who the fuk says Sheet like this?? You should be ashamed of yourself. This should not be tolerated on this board at all.
Considering who it was directed at? Ashamed? Absolutely not.
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Considering who it was directed at? Ashamed? Absolutely not.
He may say off the wall Sheet but I've never seen him post something this classless. I'm sorry but if you think this is acceptable you need to grow the fuk up. IMO a ban is in order for what you said.
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Considering who it was directed at? Ashamed? Absolutely not.
He may say off the wall Sheet but I've never seen him post something this classless. I'm sorry but if you think this is acceptable you need to grow the fuk up. IMO a ban is in order for what you said.
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Well, I just lambasted Dutch oven. Bringing my Dead Mother into this, is out of bounds.
I agree Tom. But a ban for it? (I know you did not suggest that). Nah. But certainly reprimands from other members like myself and others. Doesn't mean he gets it yet, but he should. There are some things that are sacrosanct.
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Well, I just lambasted Dutch oven. Bringing my Dead Mother into this, is out of bounds.
I agree Tom. But a ban for it? (I know you did not suggest that). Nah. But certainly reprimands from other members like myself and others. Doesn't mean he gets it yet, but he should. There are some things that are sacrosanct.
I agree Tom. But a ban for it? (I know you did not suggest that). Nah. But certainly reprimands from other members like myself and others. Doesn't mean he gets it yet, but he should. There are some things that are sacrosanct.
Actually, I never said a negative word towards his mother (unlike Ghoolie, who I believe multiple times said that I fellated my mother's penis). So apparently mothers are NOT out of bounds, are they?
No, he got all bent out of shape because likely I hit upon a kernel of truth regarding him.
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I agree Tom. But a ban for it? (I know you did not suggest that). Nah. But certainly reprimands from other members like myself and others. Doesn't mean he gets it yet, but he should. There are some things that are sacrosanct.
Actually, I never said a negative word towards his mother (unlike Ghoolie, who I believe multiple times said that I fellated my mother's penis). So apparently mothers are NOT out of bounds, are they?
No, he got all bent out of shape because likely I hit upon a kernel of truth regarding him.
Actually, I never said a negative word towards his mother (unlike Ghoolie, who I believe multiple times said that I fellated my mother's penis). So apparently mothers are NOT out of bounds, are they?
No, he got all bent out of shape because likely I hit upon a kernel of truth regarding him.
Like I said, doesn't mean you get it. Add in a mourning period and maybe you'll understand. Even Tom has a mourning period, though you may not believe that. I do.
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Actually, I never said a negative word towards his mother (unlike Ghoolie, who I believe multiple times said that I fellated my mother's penis). So apparently mothers are NOT out of bounds, are they?
No, he got all bent out of shape because likely I hit upon a kernel of truth regarding him.
Like I said, doesn't mean you get it. Add in a mourning period and maybe you'll understand. Even Tom has a mourning period, though you may not believe that. I do.
Like I said, doesn't mean you get it. Add in a mourning period and maybe you'll understand. Even Tom has a mourning period, though you may not believe that. I do.
Keep enabling his bad behavior, TexAg.
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Like I said, doesn't mean you get it. Add in a mourning period and maybe you'll understand. Even Tom has a mourning period, though you may not believe that. I do.
Keep enabling his bad behavior, TexAg.
Keep enabling his bad behavior, TexAg.
At this point I'm trying not to enable yours. I give Tom Sheet here and there from time to time. Usually you I agree with. Just not on this.
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We should of gone for a big armed tall QB who would do well in the conditions.....someone like Brando Weeden or DeShone Kizer
It's either/or for you guys, huh?
It's amazing how Baker had some support as the guy the Browns should draft #1 before the draft, but now he's a great pick by a big portion of people on here.
It's like I've seen this scenario before... oh yeah, when the Browns drafted Brandon Weeden. Before the draft, a few people liked him. After? Well yeah, he's almost 30, and he plays in a garbage conference, but I see great things from Weeden! by masses of Browns fans. Magically, because the Browns drafted him, all objectivity went out the door.
Browns fans are consistent, if they are anything.
It's amazing how Baker had some support as the guy the Browns should draft #1 before the draft, but now he's a great pick by a big portion of people on here.
It's like I've seen this scenario before... oh yeah, when the Browns drafted Brandon Weeden. Before the draft, a few people liked him. After? Well yeah, he's almost 30, and he plays in a garbage conference, but I see great things from Weeden! by masses of Browns fans. Magically, because the Browns drafted him, all objectivity went out the door.
Browns fans are consistent, if they are anything.
Semi-fair comment, but were you even here when we drafted Wheezy? There were few that embraced him pre-draft. There were more than a few who "he's ours now" embraced him. But there were a lot of us who were confident he was the mistake he turned out to be.
It's different with Baker. He was the #1 choice with some here, but the #2 with a lot more of us. In my case while some interview footage turned me off of him a bit more late, some I've seen since we drafted him is making me feel better. Still think there's a fatal flaw or two to put to rest, i.e., channeling his in-game emotions when the D he's facing gets in his head as they will early and often, but I'm OK with the probability of that happening in time.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I don't get the mayfield is athletic talk. He's not. He's not even the athlete Manziel was. When you watch baker against nfl DE's and LB's, you'll see how slow he is in game speed.
Slow and small is generally not a great combination in the nfl, even at qb.
Im not concerned at all about the so called character issues. And character issues had little to do with manziel's downfall....manziel just wasnt good enough.
I don't get the mayfield is athletic talk. He's not. He's not even the athlete Manziel was. When you watch baker against nfl DE's and LB's, you'll see how slow he is in game speed.
Slow and small is generally not a great combination in the nfl, even at qb.
Im not concerned at all about the so called character issues. And character issues had little to do with manziel's downfall....manziel just wasnt good enough.
"Manziel's character head little to do with his downfall" - TacoCabana should be immortalized in our Hall of Bad Posts.
I do agree that Baker is much less athletic than JFF, which is why Baker had to learn how to play QB to the extent he has.
No one in this draft not a single person was number one overall caliber and I include Berkeley and that so and chips so we have to do what we have to doNo one in this draft not a single person was number one overall caliber and I include Berkeley and that so and chips so we have to do what we have to do
Bullsh!t! Bullsh!t!
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Gipper I don't know what kind of phone you have but I think it probably needs a system update. Mine used to do that all the time repeating whatever I dictated.
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It's amazing how Baker had some support as the guy the Browns should draft #1 before the draft, but now he's a great pick by a big portion of people on here.
It's like I've seen this scenario before... oh yeah, when the Browns drafted Brandon Weeden. Before the draft, a few people liked him. After? Well yeah, he's almost 30, and he plays in a garbage conference, but I see great things from Weeden! by masses of Browns fans. Magically, because the Browns drafted him, all objectivity went out the door.
Browns fans are consistent, if they are anything.
Semi-fair comment, but were you even here when we drafted Wheezy? There were few that embraced him pre-draft. There were more than a few who "he's ours now" embraced him. But there were a lot of us who were confident he was the mistake he turned out to be.
It's different with Baker. He was the #1 choice with some here, but the #2 with a lot more of us. In my case while some interview footage turned me off of him a bit more late, some I've seen since we drafted him is making me feel better. Still think there's a fatal flaw or two to put to rest, i.e., channeling his in-game emotions when the D he's facing gets in his head as they will early and often, but I'm OK with the probability of that happening in time.
Semi-fair comment, but were you even here when we drafted Wheezy? There were few that embraced him pre-draft. There were more than a few who "he's ours now" embraced him. But there were a lot of us who were confident he was the mistake he turned out to be.
I'm sorry, that was vague, it was on the message board mjp, Coyote and I were previously on for years that generally wanted nothing to do with Weeden on Wednesday before the draft, but by Friday morning miraculously "slept on it" and decided it was a shrewd move by the Browns. I see a similar reaction to Mayfield. I'm not expecting people to riot, but just asking for a little consistency.
I'm intrigued by the Baker Mayfield Experiment. He was definitely 3rd on my list, but he's not Josh Allen, so thank dog for small miracles...
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I would say fail for drew lock but it’s certainty that they will fail dumbShmuck fan boys will scream for mayfield he will fail and we will get the first pick next year but the browns will muck that up too
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Gipper I don't know what kind of phone you have but I think it probably needs a system update. Mine used to do that all the time repeating whatever I dictated.
WSS
Gipper I don't know what kind of phone you have but I think it probably needs a system update. Mine used to do that all the time repeating whatever I dictated.
WSS
Probably right probably right probably rightProbably right probably right probably
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Dude, stop. Cry into your beer but stop making useless threads.
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