Lamar Jackson to the Ravens
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For the record, I think the Browns made a mistake not grooming Kizer and giving him a real opportunity. I hope Jackson does well. The kid will be breathing down Flaccos neck.
Tuneman, can you explain to me how "Jackson doing well" and "toasting the Ravens franchise" jive together? Breathing down the starter Flaccos neck right?
GM Dorsey did not take him because that man can draft.
Lamar is NOT the Jackson that I would be afraid of....but....if I hear this, I'm worried:
Lamar is NOT the Jackson that I would be afraid of....but....if I hear this, I'm worried:
Real burgers are great.
I had one tonight.
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He had over 3500 yds passing 2 seasons in a row.
He can throw fine
OH yeah?
Over 1500 rushing yards in consecutive seasons. At least 18 rushing TDs in each season. Jackson averaged 20 carries per game x 13 games in 2016. Averaged 18 carries per game x 13 games in 2017. You think he will suddenly stop running? The odds are not in your favor that he will.
56% completion rate in 2016. Same as Josh Allen. Ask all the Allen haters here why this number sucks.
59% completion rate in 2017. Headed to a league where it all gets real.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/lamar-jackson-1.html
OH yeah?
Over 1500 rushing yards in consecutive seasons. At least 18 rushing TDs in each season. Jackson averaged 20 carries per game x 13 games in 2016. Averaged 18 carries per game x 13 games in 2017. You think he will suddenly stop running? The odds are not in your favor that he will.
56% completion rate in 2016. Same as Josh Allen. Ask all the Allen haters here why this number sucks.
59% completion rate in 2017. Headed to a league where it all gets real.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/lamar-jackson-1.html
how many thousands of extra yards per season than Allen just in passing yards alone?
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I bet Jackson ends up being one of the top 2 QB in this draft over his career.
Mayfeild = Drew Brees
Jackson = Mike Vick
Rosen = Sam Bradford
Darnold = Blaine Gabbert
Allen = Deshone Kizer
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For all I have posted about Black Tarkentons, I really can't believe the topic of this RG4 QB even got responses.
People, people, people.............do I have to start putting red flag caution indicator on some of this crap? My ONLY sober thought on this idiotic topic was really to insinuate that Jackson would be another RG crapola waste of time. Good grief, the only thing this kid is going to toast is the Ravens. Still, I wouldn't have been surprised if Hue took him.
For the record, I think the Browns made a mistake not grooming Kizer and giving him a real opportunity. I hope Jackson does well. The kid will be breathing down Flaccos neck.
Tuneman, can you explain to me how "Jackson doing well" and "toasting the Ravens franchise" jive together? Breathing down the starter Flaccos neck right?
GM Dorsey did not take him because that man can draft.
For the record, I think the Browns made a mistake not grooming Kizer and giving him a real opportunity. I hope Jackson does well. The kid will be breathing down Flaccos neck.
Tuneman, can you explain to me how "Jackson doing well" and "toasting the Ravens franchise" jive together? Breathing down the starter Flaccos neck right?
GM Dorsey did not take him because that man can draft.
I called Kizer a buffoon. Still, I wished him the best. I don't believe he will do well, but, he is a nice kid. He got drafted, people are calling him a dumb butt. He had better poise in the process than I WANNA BE A COWBOY Zumba girl. I think he will flop, but I hope for his sake he does really well. Jives perfectly well.
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I bet Jackson ends up being one of the top 2 QB in this draft over his career.
Mayfeild = Drew Brees
Jackson = Mike Vick
Rosen = Sam Bradford
Darnold = Blaine Gabbert
Allen = Deshone Kizer
I bet Jackson ends up being one of the top 2 QB in this draft over his career.
Mayfeild = Drew Brees
Jackson = Mike Vick
Rosen = Sam Bradford
Darnold = Blaine Gabbert
Allen = Deshone Kizer
finger = Penis
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For all I have posted about Black Tarkentons, I really can't believe the topic of this RG4 QB even got responses.
People, people, people.............do I have to start putting red flag caution indicator on some of this crap? My ONLY sober thought on this idiotic topic was really to insinuate that Jackson would be another RG crapola waste of time. Good grief, the only thing this kid is going to toast is the Ravens. Still, I wouldn't have been surprised if Hue took him.
I am good with Mayfield. SOmewhere back in all this pile, I believe he was the guy I said we should go after. Again, the QB lottery is a guess. We chose one of the top QBs. YOu can't ask for more than that. What happens, happens. We will see.
Why then, are we wasting our breath on him. He is a Ratpuker now. Let him wallow in that garbage.
Why then, are we wasting our breath on him. He is a Ratpuker now. Let him wallow in that garbage.
I have always enjoyed turning this forum into Green Acres. Jackson was like the citizens of Hooterville seceding from the Union. Hell, I generated TONS of responses over the idiotic SUMO topic, Hoorta even did research. How the hell can I NOT enjoy schidt like this?
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Lamar is NOT the Jackson that I would be afraid of....but....if I hear this, I'm worried:
Real burgers are great.
I had one tonight.
Real burgers are great.
I had one tonight.
Have another one in the morning you know the cornerstone.
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Why?
Jackson will be another running QB who wont throw the ball away when the pass play is not there. He try to be Barry Sanders and will get busted up like RG3 and Vick.
He had over 3500 yds passing 2 seasons in a row.
He can throw fine
He had over 3500 yds passing 2 seasons in a row.
He (Jackson) can throw fine...
He's not a Brown, so let it go... Had far more rushing yards than either Michael Vick or RG III in college. Griffin had a far superior completion % in college.
That wunderlich says he's not exactly too bright. Remains to be seen if athleticism trumps intelligence- I'm betting NOT, at least at QB.
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OH yeah?
Over 1500 rushing yards in consecutive seasons. At least 18 rushing TDs in each season. Jackson averaged 20 carries per game x 13 games in 2016. Averaged 18 carries per game x 13 games in 2017. You think he will suddenly stop running? The odds are not in your favor that he will.
56% completion rate in 2016. Same as Josh Allen. Ask all the Allen haters here why this number sucks.
59% completion rate in 2017. Headed to a league where it all gets real.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/lamar-jackson-1.html
how many thousands of extra yards per season than Allen just in passing yards alone?
how many thousands of extra yards per season than Allen just in passing yards alone?
Defenses had to respect Jackson was a running threat, no?
How many pros did Jackson play against at Louie? Out of thousands of players about 200 players are drafted from all the NCAA football programs. Everybody is a pro at the NFL level. Strong, fast and smart. Jackson will get crushed in the NFL if he runs and I dont see him surviving taking away his run game.
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Personally I hope Lamar Jackson sucks. Not because I dislike him but because he will be the quarterback for the flying rats.
WSS
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how many thousands of extra yards per season than Allen just in passing yards alone?
Defenses had to respect Jackson was a running threat, no?
How many pros did Jackson play against at Louie? Out of thousands of players about 200 players are drafted from all the NCAA football programs. Everybody is a pro at the NFL level. Strong, fast and smart. Jackson will get crushed in the NFL if he runs and I dont see him surviving taking away his run game.
Defenses had to respect Jackson was a running threat, no?
How many pros did Jackson play against at Louie? Out of thousands of players about 200 players are drafted from all the NCAA football programs. Everybody is a pro at the NFL level. Strong, fast and smart. Jackson will get crushed in the NFL if he runs and I dont see him surviving taking away his run game.
He's still gonna be one of the fastest guys on the entire field in the NFL. He's faster than most WR and CB. I don't think he's missed any games with injuries thus far has he?
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Defenses had to respect Jackson was a running threat, no?
How many pros did Jackson play against at Louie? Out of thousands of players about 200 players are drafted from all the NCAA football programs. Everybody is a pro at the NFL level. Strong, fast and smart. Jackson will get crushed in the NFL if he runs and I dont see him surviving taking away his run game.
He's still gonna be one of the fastest guys on the entire field in the NFL. He's faster than most WR and CB. I don't think he's missed any games with injuries thus far has he?
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Fast guys get tackled all the time in the NFL.
There are not all that many with 4.3 speed and and quick twitch change of direction. Just go back and watch the old Vick plays and it's clear you CAN run against NFL speed successfully. It's his arm and ability to learn the intricacies of a playbook and reading defenses properly that are the real crux of his future as an NFL QB.
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Fast guys get tackled all the time in the NFL.
There are not all that many with 4.3 speed and and quick twitch change of direction. Just go back and watch the old Vick plays and it's clear you CAN run against NFL speed successfully. It's his arm and ability to learn the intricacies of a playbook and reading defenses properly that are the real crux of his future as an NFL QB.
There are not all that many with 4.3 speed and and quick twitch change of direction. Just go back and watch the old Vick plays and it's clear you CAN run against NFL speed successfully. It's his arm and ability to learn the intricacies of a playbook and reading defenses properly that are the real crux of his future as an NFL QB.
Or not. Anyway if he is a world-class runner as you say, he can always pull a Pryor if or when he falls on his butt as a quarterback.
WSS
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Fast guys get tackled all the time in the NFL.
There are not all that many with 4.3 speed and and quick twitch change of direction. Just go back and watch the old Vick plays and it's clear you CAN run against NFL speed successfully. It's his arm and ability to learn the intricacies of a playbook and reading defenses properly that are the real crux of his future as an NFL QB.
There are not all that many with 4.3 speed and and quick twitch change of direction. Just go back and watch the old Vick plays and it's clear you CAN run against NFL speed successfully. It's his arm and ability to learn the intricacies of a playbook and reading defenses properly that are the real crux of his future as an NFL QB.
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how many thousands of extra yards per season than Allen just in passing yards alone?
Defenses had to respect Jackson was a running threat, no?
How many pros did Jackson play against at Louie? Out of thousands of players about 200 players are drafted from all the NCAA football programs. Everybody is a pro at the NFL level. Strong, fast and smart. Jackson will get crushed in the NFL if he runs and I dont see him surviving taking away his run game.
How many pros did Jackson play against at Louie?
57 plus UDFAs...
Allen? 11 plus UDFAs...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
So 180 lb WR are quite common.... But a 215 lb athletic specimen at qb will break in half at first contact.
I don't get the reasoning
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How many pros did Jackson play against at Louie?
57 plus UDFAs...
Allen? 11 plus UDFAs...
57 plus UDFAs...
Allen? 11 plus UDFAs...
Jackson 2017
Miss State - 0
Kentucky - 0
Kent State - 0
Clemson - 1
3rd LB
Boston Coll - 3
2nd DE
3rd DB
6th DB
Purdue - 1
5th LB
NC State - 4
1st DE
3rd DT
3rd DT
4th DT
NC - 2
2nd DB
7th LB
FL State - 3
1st DB
3rd DT
4th DE
Syracuse - 1
7th LB
Wake Forest - 2
2nd DB
6th DE
Virginia - 2
5th LB
5th LB
19 TOTAL DRAFTED
1st x 2
2nd x 3
3rd x 5
4th x 2
5th x 3
6th x 2
7th x 2
In reality about 5 - 10 NFL caliber players assuming the 1st round and 2nd round guys pan out and some of the other guys will be depth.
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So 180 lb WR are quite common.... But a 215 lb athletic specimen at qb will break in half at first contact.
I don't get the reasoning
So 180 lb WR are quite common.... But a 215 lb athletic specimen at qb will break in half at first contact.
I don't get the reasoning
RBs take a beating in the NFL and their careers are short lived. A WR is afforded a little protection within the rules.
My money is on this mobile QB experiment not working. Ghoolie is right, the days of Tarkenton are over. The successful teams stay in the pocket because its a passing league. The Browns appear to be joining the party with Mayfield. Throwing the ball away on 3rd and punting can be the smartest move to make sometimes.
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