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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    Just saw on the local news - they were talking about Calloway - they mentioned he is being mentored by

    other players in the league, most notably, Antonio Brown. Mayfield grinned when asked about him, and he said

    "he's fast, he's very, very fast". Calloway is very soft spoken, but when they talked to him, and asked how he felt

    about Dorsey taking a chance on him in the fourth round, he had a serious look in his eyes and flatly said "I won't let him down".

    He also said Brown and others have told him he has way too much talent to waste it. I think this kid really believes it, and is really on the level.

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      Just saw on the local news - they were talking about Calloway - they mentioned he is being mentored by

      other players in the league, most notably, Antonio Brown. Mayfield grinned when asked about him, and he said

      "he's fast, he's very, very fast". Calloway is very soft spoken, but when they talked to him, and asked how he felt

      about Dorsey taking a chance on him in the fourth round, he had a serious look in his eyes and flatly said "I won't let him down".

      He also said Brown and others have told him he has way too much talent to waste it. I think this kid really believes it, and is really on the level.

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      @calfoxwc said:

      Just saw on the local news - they were talking about Calloway - they mentioned he is being mentored by

      other players in the league, most notably, Antonio Brown. Mayfield grinned when asked about him, and he said

      "he's fast, he's very, very fast". Calloway is very soft spoken, but when they talked to him, and asked how he felt

      about Dorsey taking a chance on him in the fourth round, he had a serious look in his eyes and flatly said "I won't let him down".

      He also said Brown and others have told him he has way too much talent to waste it. I think this kid really believes it, and is really on the level.

      I thought you had no room for people whom you felt lacked character?

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        @calfoxwc said:

        Just saw on the local news - they were talking about Calloway - they mentioned he is being mentored by

        other players in the league, most notably, Antonio Brown. Mayfield grinned when asked about him, and he said

        "he's fast, he's very, very fast". Calloway is very soft spoken, but when they talked to him, and asked how he felt

        about Dorsey taking a chance on him in the fourth round, he had a serious look in his eyes and flatly said "I won't let him down".

        He also said Brown and others have told him he has way too much talent to waste it. I think this kid really believes it, and is really on the level.

        I thought you had no room for people whom you felt lacked character?

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        @the-gipper said:

        I thought you had no room for people whom you felt lacked character?

        Don't tempt me Gip.😛

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          @calfoxwc said:

          Just saw on the local news - they were talking about Calloway - they mentioned he is being mentored by

          other players in the league, most notably, Antonio Brown. Mayfield grinned when asked about him, and he said

          "he's fast, he's very, very fast". Calloway is very soft spoken, but when they talked to him, and asked how he felt

          about Dorsey taking a chance on him in the fourth round, he had a serious look in his eyes and flatly said "I won't let him down".

          He also said Brown and others have told him he has way too much talent to waste it. I think this kid really believes it, and is really on the level.

          I thought you had no room for people whom you felt lacked character?

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          @the-gipper said:

          I thought you had no room for people whom you felt lacked character?

            Come now, you are a JUDGE and you can't discern issues better than THAT? Not even LOL-able. Given his rap sheet, I would never have drafted him. I remember Jerimiah Pharms, 4th rounder.The Browns didn't do their homework at all.

            Pharms, however, didn't have mentors in the NFL. Sometimes, character can be accrued, like forging hardness of steel.

            I trust Dorsey and co did serious research and interviews about this kid. They took a chance - it isn't so bad to lose out on taking a chance in the fourth round.

          But the first round? hell no. second? hell no. Third? hell no.

          About Pharms

          https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/key-uw-linebacker-played-entire-season-after-his-bloody-print-was-tied-to-shooting/

          Calloway never murdered anybody. Ran with a rough crowd, had credit card fraud issues with the group.

          False accusation of rape. You are a freaking judge? Come on, man. I can see taking a chance on a kid who made mistakes,

          but is past them, at least late as the 4th round. But it's sticking your neck out. Butch Davis and co took a far, far bigger, far more stupid chance.

             Calloway has people in the NFL who believe in who he is. etc etc. He had been slated by some to have gone in the second round - one, to the ratbirds.

            giving this kid a chance has some merit - I wouldn't have taken the chance myself. But good luck to Calloway.

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            @the-gipper said:

            I thought you had no room for people whom you felt lacked character?

              Come now, you are a JUDGE and you can't discern issues better than THAT? Not even LOL-able. Given his rap sheet, I would never have drafted him. I remember Jerimiah Pharms, 4th rounder.The Browns didn't do their homework at all.

              Pharms, however, didn't have mentors in the NFL. Sometimes, character can be accrued, like forging hardness of steel.

              I trust Dorsey and co did serious research and interviews about this kid. They took a chance - it isn't so bad to lose out on taking a chance in the fourth round.

            But the first round? hell no. second? hell no. Third? hell no.

            About Pharms

            https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/key-uw-linebacker-played-entire-season-after-his-bloody-print-was-tied-to-shooting/

            Calloway never murdered anybody. Ran with a rough crowd, had credit card fraud issues with the group.

            False accusation of rape. You are a freaking judge? Come on, man. I can see taking a chance on a kid who made mistakes,

            but is past them, at least late as the 4th round. But it's sticking your neck out. Butch Davis and co took a far, far bigger, far more stupid chance.

               Calloway has people in the NFL who believe in who he is. etc etc. He had been slated by some to have gone in the second round - one, to the ratbirds.

              giving this kid a chance has some merit - I wouldn't have taken the chance myself. But good luck to Calloway.

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            @calfoxwc said:

              Come now, you are a JUDGE and you can't discern issues better than THAT? Not even LOL-able. Given his rap sheet, I would never have drafted him. I remember Jerimiah Pharms, 4th rounder.The Browns didn't do their homework at all.

              Pharms, however, didn't have mentors in the NFL. Sometimes, character can be accrued, like forging hardness of steel.

              I trust Dorsey and co did serious research and interviews about this kid. They took a chance - it isn't so bad to lose out on taking a chance in the fourth round.

            But the first round? hell no. second? hell no. Third? hell no.

            About Pharms

            https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/key-uw-linebacker-played-entire-season-after-his-bloody-print-was-tied-to-shooting/

            Calloway never murdered anybody. Ran with a rough crowd, had credit card fraud issues with the group.

            False accusation of rape. You are a freaking judge? Come on, man. I can see taking a chance on a kid who made mistakes,

            but is past them, at least late as the 4th round. But it's sticking your neck out. Butch Davis and co took a far, far bigger, far more stupid chance.

               Calloway has people in the NFL who believe in who he is. etc etc. He had been slated by some to have gone in the second round - one, to the ratbirds.

              giving this kid a chance has some merit - I wouldn't have taken the chance myself. But good luck to Calloway.

            It has nothing to do with me...or what I do for a living.  It has to do with you.  You wanted nothing to do with a particular player who had NONE of the history that Calloway had......yet you are willing to give a chance to this guy who has more Red Flags than May Day in Moscow?  Is it all about where they were drafted?

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                Come now, you are a JUDGE and you can't discern issues better than THAT? Not even LOL-able. Given his rap sheet, I would never have drafted him. I remember Jerimiah Pharms, 4th rounder.The Browns didn't do their homework at all.

                Pharms, however, didn't have mentors in the NFL. Sometimes, character can be accrued, like forging hardness of steel.

                I trust Dorsey and co did serious research and interviews about this kid. They took a chance - it isn't so bad to lose out on taking a chance in the fourth round.

              But the first round? hell no. second? hell no. Third? hell no.

              About Pharms

              https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/key-uw-linebacker-played-entire-season-after-his-bloody-print-was-tied-to-shooting/

              Calloway never murdered anybody. Ran with a rough crowd, had credit card fraud issues with the group.

              False accusation of rape. You are a freaking judge? Come on, man. I can see taking a chance on a kid who made mistakes,

              but is past them, at least late as the 4th round. But it's sticking your neck out. Butch Davis and co took a far, far bigger, far more stupid chance.

                 Calloway has people in the NFL who believe in who he is. etc etc. He had been slated by some to have gone in the second round - one, to the ratbirds.

                giving this kid a chance has some merit - I wouldn't have taken the chance myself. But good luck to Calloway.

              It has nothing to do with me...or what I do for a living.  It has to do with you.  You wanted nothing to do with a particular player who had NONE of the history that Calloway had......yet you are willing to give a chance to this guy who has more Red Flags than May Day in Moscow?  Is it all about where they were drafted?

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              It has nothing to do with me...or what I do for a living.  It has to do with you.  You wanted nothing to do with a particular player who had NONE of the history that Calloway had......yet you are willing to give a chance to this guy who has more Red Flags than May Day in Moscow?  Is it all about where they were drafted?

                who are you talking about? my guess is, rosen. he has personality issues. was outraged that he didn't get drafted earlier, after saying

              he would rather get drafted later to the right team. Seriously? He dropped the fbomb when he was drafted, he was so po'd.

              Then, the video I saw, also showed him getting bleeped when he went up and met the commish. He was barely a top ten pick.

              Can you tell the difference between a top ten pick and a fourth round pick? apparently not. His flags, as I already showed you, are not the devastating kind. He was innocent of the rape allegation. No charges filed. If you don't get that, shame on you.

              Stop whining over rosen. He's old news. (did you know Josh Allen was drafted well ahead of him?)LOL

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                Josh Allen's Twitter fans approve of the previous statement. 

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                  Josh Allen's Twitter fans approve of the previous statement. 

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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  Josh Allen's Twitter fans approve of the previous statement. 

                  Guys in polo shirts with tiki torches?

                  GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                    Josh Allen's Twitter fans approve of the previous statement. 

                    Guys in polo shirts with tiki torches?

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                    Guys in polo shirts with tiki torches?

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                      @dutch-oven said:

                      Josh Allen's Twitter fans approve of the previous statement. 

                      Guys in polo shirts with tiki torches?

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                      Guys in polo shirts with...

                      ... what looks to be a flux capacitor logo on them.

                      "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                        Guys in polo shirts with...

                        ... what looks to be a flux capacitor logo on them.

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                        ... what looks to be a flux capacitor logo on them.

                        Or a Star Trek communicator logo? For those who go where only KKK has gone before.😆

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                          Just saw on the local news - they were talking about Calloway - they mentioned he is being mentored by

                          other players in the league, most notably, Antonio Brown. Mayfield grinned when asked about him, and he said

                          "he's fast, he's very, very fast". Calloway is very soft spoken, but when they talked to him, and asked how he felt

                          about Dorsey taking a chance on him in the fourth round, he had a serious look in his eyes and flatly said "I won't let him down".

                          He also said Brown and others have told him he has way too much talent to waste it. I think this kid really believes it, and is really on the level.

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                          @calfoxwc said:

                          Just saw on the local news - they were talking about Calloway - they mentioned he is being mentored by

                          other players in the league, most notably, Antonio Brown. Mayfield grinned when asked about him, and he said

                          "he's fast, he's very, very fast". Calloway is very soft spoken, but when they talked to him, and asked how he felt

                          about Dorsey taking a chance on him in the fourth round, he had a serious look in his eyes and flatly said "I won't let him down".

                          He also said Brown and others have told him he has way too much talent to waste it. I think this kid really believes it, and is really on the level.

                          I'm with you Cal. Let's believe in this kid instead of expecting the worse. He seems humble and ready for the challenge. What's to lose  .... a 4th round pick? We've got a lot more invested in the three guys ahead of him on the depth chart, pressure is on them ... You hear me Corey Coleman?

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            It has nothing to do with me...or what I do for a living.  It has to do with you.  You wanted nothing to do with a particular player who had NONE of the history that Calloway had......yet you are willing to give a chance to this guy who has more Red Flags than May Day in Moscow?  Is it all about where they were drafted?

                              who are you talking about? my guess is, rosen. he has personality issues. was outraged that he didn't get drafted earlier, after saying

                            he would rather get drafted later to the right team. Seriously? He dropped the fbomb when he was drafted, he was so po'd.

                            Then, the video I saw, also showed him getting bleeped when he went up and met the commish. He was barely a top ten pick.

                            Can you tell the difference between a top ten pick and a fourth round pick? apparently not. His flags, as I already showed you, are not the devastating kind. He was innocent of the rape allegation. No charges filed. If you don't get that, shame on you.

                            Stop whining over rosen. He's old news. (did you know Josh Allen was drafted well ahead of him?)LOL

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                            @calfoxwc said:

                              who are you talking about? my guess is, rosen. he has personality issues. was outraged that he didn't get drafted earlier, after saying

                            he would rather get drafted later to the right team. Seriously? He dropped the fbomb when he was drafted, he was so po'd.

                            Then, the video I saw, also showed him getting bleeped when he went up and met the commish. He was barely a top ten pick.

                            Can you tell the difference between a top ten pick and a fourth round pick? apparently not. His flags, as I already showed you, are not the devastating kind. He was innocent of the rape allegation. No charges filed. If you don't get that, shame on you.

                            Stop whining over rosen. He's old news. (did you know Josh Allen was drafted well ahead of him?)LOL

                            I never cared about Rosen.  Or Allen. In terms of where they were taken in the draft.  What I see is you being hypocritical.    You hold it against one player because you perceive certain character issues.....yet you are willing to forgive and forget another player who had actual, objective determinable character issues.  Theft, drug use, assault allegations  etc. 

                            Now, I AM perfectly willing to give the drug user, thief, batterer a chance....and hope he cleans up his act.   I am  pretty certain, however, that your hypocrisy will continue where Rosen is concerned.

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                              Josh Allen's Twitter fans approve of the previous statement. 

                              Guys in polo shirts with tiki torches?

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                              @mjp28 said:

                              Guys in polo shirts with tiki torches?

                              Frat party?

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                                @calfoxwc said:

                                  who are you talking about? my guess is, rosen. he has personality issues. was outraged that he didn't get drafted earlier, after saying

                                he would rather get drafted later to the right team. Seriously? He dropped the fbomb when he was drafted, he was so po'd.

                                Then, the video I saw, also showed him getting bleeped when he went up and met the commish. He was barely a top ten pick.

                                Can you tell the difference between a top ten pick and a fourth round pick? apparently not. His flags, as I already showed you, are not the devastating kind. He was innocent of the rape allegation. No charges filed. If you don't get that, shame on you.

                                Stop whining over rosen. He's old news. (did you know Josh Allen was drafted well ahead of him?)LOL

                                I never cared about Rosen.  Or Allen. In terms of where they were taken in the draft.  What I see is you being hypocritical.    You hold it against one player because you perceive certain character issues.....yet you are willing to forgive and forget another player who had actual, objective determinable character issues.  Theft, drug use, assault allegations  etc. 

                                Now, I AM perfectly willing to give the drug user, thief, batterer a chance....and hope he cleans up his act.   I am  pretty certain, however, that your hypocrisy will continue where Rosen is concerned.

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                I never cared about Rosen.  Or Allen. In terms of where they were taken in the draft.  What I see is you being hypocritical.    You hold it against one player because you perceive certain character issues.....yet you are willing to forgive and forget another player who had actual, objective determinable character issues.  Theft, drug use, assault allegations  etc. 

                                Now, I AM perfectly willing to give the drug user, thief, batterer a chance....and hope he cleans up his act.   I am  pretty certain, however, that your hypocrisy will continue where Rosen is concerned.

                                  That's stupid. You don't draft red flags in the first three rounds. Get clue - rosen went in the top ten, you fool. I don't like rosen for who he IS. Calloway - who IS he? don't know. He's messed up in his life, but no murder, etc.

                                I don't hate everybody who ever made mistakes - I wouldn't have drafted rosen in the first three rounds. Maybe I might have drafted him in the fourth round if he was there. I wouldn't have drafted Calloway, except I trust Dorsey and co did their homework bigtime.

                                We'll see. There, I said it again, bigmouth. And I don't see how you can be an effective judge but you can't understand simple explanations.

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                                Here, I'll repost it again just to help you out, got short term memory problem?

                                That's stupid. You don't draft red flags in the first three rounds. Get clue - rosen went in the top ten, you fool. I don't like rosen for who he IS. Calloway - who IS he? don't know. He's messed up in his life, but no murder, etc.

                                I don't hate everybody who ever made mistakes - I wouldn't have drafted rosen in the first three rounds. Maybe I might have drafted him in the fourth round if he was there. I wouldn't have drafted Calloway, except I trust Dorsey and co did their homework bigtime.

                                We'll see. There, I said it again, bigmouth. And I don't see how you can be an effective judge but you can't understand simple explanations.

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  I never cared about Rosen.  Or Allen. In terms of where they were taken in the draft.  What I see is you being hypocritical.    You hold it against one player because you perceive certain character issues.....yet you are willing to forgive and forget another player who had actual, objective determinable character issues.  Theft, drug use, assault allegations  etc. 

                                  Now, I AM perfectly willing to give the drug user, thief, batterer a chance....and hope he cleans up his act.   I am  pretty certain, however, that your hypocrisy will continue where Rosen is concerned.

                                    That's stupid. You don't draft red flags in the first three rounds. Get clue - rosen went in the top ten, you fool. I don't like rosen for who he IS. Calloway - who IS he? don't know. He's messed up in his life, but no murder, etc.

                                  I don't hate everybody who ever made mistakes - I wouldn't have drafted rosen in the first three rounds. Maybe I might have drafted him in the fourth round if he was there. I wouldn't have drafted Calloway, except I trust Dorsey and co did their homework bigtime.

                                  We'll see. There, I said it again, bigmouth. And I don't see how you can be an effective judge but you can't understand simple explanations.

                                  ************************************

                                  Here, I'll repost it again just to help you out, got short term memory problem?

                                  That's stupid. You don't draft red flags in the first three rounds. Get clue - rosen went in the top ten, you fool. I don't like rosen for who he IS. Calloway - who IS he? don't know. He's messed up in his life, but no murder, etc.

                                  I don't hate everybody who ever made mistakes - I wouldn't have drafted rosen in the first three rounds. Maybe I might have drafted him in the fourth round if he was there. I wouldn't have drafted Calloway, except I trust Dorsey and co did their homework bigtime.

                                  We'll see. There, I said it again, bigmouth. And I don't see how you can be an effective judge but you can't understand simple explanations.

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                  @calfoxwc said:

                                    That's stupid. You don't draft red flags in the first three rounds. Get clue - rosen went in the top ten, you fool. I don't like rosen for who he IS. Calloway - who IS he? don't know. He's messed up in his life, but no murder, etc.

                                  I don't hate everybody who ever made mistakes - I wouldn't have drafted rosen in the first three rounds. Maybe I might have drafted him in the fourth round if he was there. I wouldn't have drafted Calloway, except I trust Dorsey and co did their homework bigtime.

                                  We'll see. There, I said it again, bigmouth. And I don't see how you can be an effective judge but you can't understand simple explanations.

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                                  Here, I'll repost it again just to help you out, got short term memory problem?

                                  That's stupid. You don't draft red flags in the first three rounds. Get clue - rosen went in the top ten, you fool. I don't like rosen for who he IS. Calloway - who IS he? don't know. He's messed up in his life, but no murder, etc.

                                  I don't hate everybody who ever made mistakes - I wouldn't have drafted rosen in the first three rounds. Maybe I might have drafted him in the fourth round if he was there. I wouldn't have drafted Calloway, except I trust Dorsey and co did their homework bigtime.

                                  We'll see. There, I said it again, bigmouth. And I don't see how you can be an effective judge but you can't understand simple explanations.

                                  I understand your explanation.   Always did.  It is still fraught with hypocrisy.  You are the one with the least insight into your own motivations. (either that or you wish to obscure them).  

                                  And it is actually why I am a very good judge. My experience and insight into human nature is paramount.  And I can pretty much see into your nature.

                                  Because, you see.....Rosen had NO "red flags" of the nature that Calloway has.  No thefts, no drugs, no assault allegations....nothing, whatsoever.  Other than the fact that you did not like his personality. Pure and simple. Your motivations are venal.

                                  I also have to trust Dorsey.  He did not want Rosen for football reasons....or, rather, he wanted Mayfield for football reasons over Rosen.  Which is different from your approach.  His was a positive choice to take Mayfield, not a negative choice to  not take someone else. 

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                                    I thought you had no room for people whom you felt lacked character?

                                      Come now, you are a JUDGE and you can't discern issues better than THAT? Not even LOL-able. Given his rap sheet, I would never have drafted him. I remember Jerimiah Pharms, 4th rounder.The Browns didn't do their homework at all.

                                      Pharms, however, didn't have mentors in the NFL. Sometimes, character can be accrued, like forging hardness of steel.

                                      I trust Dorsey and co did serious research and interviews about this kid. They took a chance - it isn't so bad to lose out on taking a chance in the fourth round.

                                    But the first round? hell no. second? hell no. Third? hell no.

                                    About Pharms

                                    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/key-uw-linebacker-played-entire-season-after-his-bloody-print-was-tied-to-shooting/

                                    Calloway never murdered anybody. Ran with a rough crowd, had credit card fraud issues with the group.

                                    False accusation of rape. You are a freaking judge? Come on, man. I can see taking a chance on a kid who made mistakes,

                                    but is past them, at least late as the 4th round. But it's sticking your neck out. Butch Davis and co took a far, far bigger, far more stupid chance.

                                       Calloway has people in the NFL who believe in who he is. etc etc. He had been slated by some to have gone in the second round - one, to the ratbirds.

                                      giving this kid a chance has some merit - I wouldn't have taken the chance myself. But good luck to Calloway.

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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                      Come now, you are a JUDGE and you can't discern issues better than THAT? Not even LOL-able. Given his rap sheet, I would never have drafted him. I remember Jerimiah Pharms, 4th rounder.The Browns didn't do their homework at all.

                                      Pharms, however, didn't have mentors in the NFL. Sometimes, character can be accrued, like forging hardness of steel.

                                      I trust Dorsey and co did serious research and interviews about this kid. They took a chance - it isn't so bad to lose out on taking a chance in the fourth round.

                                    But the first round? hell no. second? hell no. Third? hell no.

                                    About Pharms

                                    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/key-uw-linebacker-played-entire-season-after-his-bloody-print-was-tied-to-shooting/

                                    Thanks for the link Cal. Wow, was that a failure to do any research on Pharms, and Nueheisel didn't have a clue what was going on under his nose.

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                                      I fail to see how that statement benefited Christ.

                                      That said, welcome.

                                      Now fix your screen name typo...

                                      Probably not a typo.   Ous is what people from the Pacific Island call themselves  (Hawaiians, Polynesians, Samoans, Tongans etc.).  Maybe this poster if of that descent.

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Probably not a typo.   Ous is what people from the Pacific Island call themselves  (Hawaiians, Polynesians, Samoans, Tongans etc.).  Maybe this poster if of that descent.

                                      Nope. Straight up honky here.

                                      Glad to be here (I think). Looking forward to crying, bitching, whining, etc for months to come with you all.

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                                        I'm pumped to see Jackson play.  There is plenty of film footage from 2017 showing him staying in the pocket to throw when he had a wide open field to run. 

                                        He is such a great athlete. I'd say the odds of him figuring it out are very good. 

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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          Probably not a typo.   Ous is what people from the Pacific Island call themselves  (Hawaiians, Polynesians, Samoans, Tongans etc.).  Maybe this poster if of that descent.

                                          Nope. Straight up honky here.

                                          Glad to be here (I think). Looking forward to crying, bitching, whining, etc for months to come with you all.

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                                          @ous said:

                                          Nope. Straight up honky here.

                                          Glad to be here (I think). Looking forward to crying, bitching, whining, etc for months to come with you all.

                                          Well then, what is the origin or your screen name?  

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