Message Board Story about Peppers
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Good post Woody. I know JP has a hell of a lot more in him than we saw.
It will be nice to see the Browns use a first rounder on a player and then actually put him in the position he's best suited to play.
In related news, watching Baker Mayfield play nose tackle next season is going to be rough.

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Peppers being used properly. Randall being used properly. Garrett, Ogbah, Nassib, Orchard, Thomas on the ends of the DL. Ogunjobi filling out and becoming a vet... Brantley as well. Kirko, Show and Jamie Collins and Avery doing what linebackers do. Ward, Carrie, Gaines, Bodycount, and Taylor(don't forget about the late rounders at CB and Howard Wilson's recovery as well). This is adding up to be a very good defensive unit, both from a starter's perspective and the depth is impressive also.
On the Offensive side we are COMPLETELY LOADED. Taylor will start, he's efficient, effective and protective with the ball, nice accuracy and he's got so much speed for a QB that it's going to be tough on the defense to zero in on him. The backup Mayfield is the future and he's going to be a hell of a player when his time comes. I think that it's going to be extremely important to have both these guys when we make a deep playoff run next year.
The runningbacks are bulldozers, Hyde and Chubb will ensure that our downhill running game continues if one should go down for any amount of time. Duke is a playmaker. Njoku and DeValve have barely scratched the surface of what they can do. With an effective QB they will shine with their great height and hands. Gordon is the best in the game and he appears to be on course for a career year. Landry is as sure a catcher as can be found and runs great routes, very savvy veteran. Coleman and Callaway are burners with the ability to make plays with the ball in their hands. Callaway is an Antonio Brown clone and Coleman will bounce back. Ricardo Louis and Higgins should thrive with a better group of QBs as well.
This team IS loaded and the Browns are going to be something special this year. Worst to first - Zeros to Heros. It's time, fall in line and get behind our guys and lets see where this thing goes! There's a gleam...
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Did not understand why people were listing Safety as a draft need. Addressed it in the first round last year and picked up a first round talent this year. Randall-Peppers should be the best combo we have had in long time. Excited to see Peppers unleashed this year. Williams knows what he is doing ... His defenses have made it to the SB twice.
Zombo
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As soon as we picked up Randall I knew we had solved the safety problem and had to concentrate on the CB problem. FA and draft have solved that in a reasonable way. The two quick DL we added allows us to do rotation in depth all along the line and frees Orchard to get back from the line in a LB spot where he belongs. I like all the things we have done to improve this team top to bottom both sides of the ball.
It will take time to build a smoothly functioning unit, but key barring injuries like last year I see this team getting better every game this season.
This is going to be a fun season to watch unwind. Should be a lot of room to analyze the intricacies of what each side of the ball is doing every week. Should make for a lot of interesting discussions all season long.

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Did not understand why people were listing Safety as a draft need. Addressed it in the first round last year and picked up a first round talent this year. Randall-Peppers should be the best combo we have had in long time. Excited to see Peppers unleashed this year. Williams knows what he is doing ... His defenses have made it to the SB twice.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Did not understand why people were listing Safety as a draft need. Addressed it in the first round last year and picked up a first round talent this year. Randall-Peppers should be the best combo we have had in long time. Excited to see Peppers unleashed this year. Williams knows what he is doing ... His defenses have made it to the SB twice.
Zombo
I think because of the fact that we do not have our minds wrapped around the concept of Randall back there because he was obtained in a trade. We get so focused on draft picks that we somewhat ignore, or have not much info on the FA players we get unless they are a big name or at a more visible position. But, you are right. Randall may be one of THE most important acquisitions of the Browns in the offseason...FA or draftee. We just have to have more exposure to his talents and capabilities to realize it.
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As soon as we picked up Randall I knew we had solved the safety problem and had to concentrate on the CB problem. FA and draft have solved that in a reasonable way. The two quick DL we added allows us to do rotation in depth all along the line and frees Orchard to get back from the line in a LB spot where he belongs. I like all the things we have done to improve this team top to bottom both sides of the ball.
It will take time to build a smoothly functioning unit, but key barring injuries like last year I see this team getting better every game this season.
This is going to be a fun season to watch unwind. Should be a lot of room to analyze the intricacies of what each side of the ball is doing every week. Should make for a lot of interesting discussions all season long.

As soon as we picked up Randall I knew we had solved the safety problem and had to concentrate on the CB problem. FA and draft have solved that in a reasonable way. The two quick DL we added allows us to do rotation in depth all along the line and frees Orchard to get back from the line in a LB spot where he belongs. I like all the things we have done to improve this team top to bottom both sides of the ball.
It will take time to build a smoothly functioning unit, but key barring injuries like last year I see this team getting better every game this season.
This is going to be a fun season to watch unwind. Should be a lot of room to analyze the intricacies of what each side of the ball is doing every week. Should make for a lot of interesting discussions all season long.

So... Draft talk will start in October like last year, or will we be able to push it till November?

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Strongsville*
Yeah, stupid me, I had the wrong place for where Cohwer didn't buy a house. LMAO.
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Did not understand why people were listing Safety as a draft need. Addressed it in the first round last year and picked up a first round talent this year. Randall-Peppers should be the best combo we have had in long time. Excited to see Peppers unleashed this year. Williams knows what he is doing ... His defenses have made it to the SB twice.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Did not understand why people were listing Safety as a draft need. Addressed it in the first round last year and picked up a first round talent this year. Randall-Peppers should be the best combo we have had in long time. Excited to see Peppers unleashed this year. Williams knows what he is doing ... His defenses have made it to the SB twice.
Zombo
It's the greatest draft mystery in modern time history
.Why prospect guru's can't seperate who is a Free Safety & who is a Strong Safety is above my pay scale. Most may have posted S meaning FS I assumed? Yes we picked up D.Randall to play FS putting Peppers/Kindred in the right spot at SS. But look behind Randall on the depth chart & one funky twist were back to square meeting round hole again..For every pick starting in the 3rd round a FS prospect came off the board right after..#67-Chad Thomas/Justin Reid went next pick.That one bothered me. #105-Callaway/109 Troy Apke..#150 G. Avery did not hit me as bad after Marcus Allen went #148..but man, he went to Chitzburg..Justin Curry backs up Randall at FS..He's never recovered from a injury as a NYG in 2015.heck we even paid Curry a injury settlement. anywho, Curry is followed by 2 UTFA's..but it is only May
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That was a great strategy by Willams. It really paid off in the win column.
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That was a great strategy by Willams. It really paid off in the win column.
That was a great draft strategy by Willams. It really paid off in the win higher picks column.
FIFY

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Props to the folks here that were commenting all last year how Peppers was playing too far off the LOS.
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Props to the folks here that were commenting all last year how Peppers was playing too far off the LOS.
Props to the folks here that were commenting all last year how Peppers was playing too far off the LOS.
It's not hard to spot a player who looks like he's back to receive a punt, especially on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd downs...

Glad to see him being moved to strong safety... I still think worry he's a "jack of all trades, master of none" type of guy (which is why I questioned using a 1st rounder on him), but at least he's being put in the position to play to his strengths.
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Props to the folks here that were commenting all last year how Peppers was playing too far off the LOS.
It's not hard to spot a player who looks like he's back to receive a punt, especially on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd downs...

Glad to see him being moved to strong safety... I still think worry he's a "jack of all trades, master of none" type of guy (which is why I questioned using a 1st rounder on him), but at least he's being put in the position to play to his strengths.
It's not hard to spot a player who looks like he's back to receive a punt, especially on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd downs...

Glad to see him being moved to strong safety... I still think worry he's a "jack of all trades, master of none" type of guy (which is why I questioned using a 1st rounder on him), but at least he's being put in the position to play to his strengths.
I meant those folks knowing Peppers skill set. Looks like they were right and Peppers is solely an in the box DB.
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It's not hard to spot a player who looks like he's back to receive a punt, especially on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd downs...

Glad to see him being moved to strong safety... I still think worry he's a "jack of all trades, master of none" type of guy (which is why I questioned using a 1st rounder on him), but at least he's being put in the position to play to his strengths.
I meant those folks knowing Peppers skill set. Looks like they were right and Peppers is solely an in the box DB.
I meant those folks knowing Peppers skill set. Looks like they were right and Peppers is solely an in the box DB.
The important thing was that Williams, Peppers and Dorsey all knew it and addressed it. I'm very happy about what we have done so far to change up defensive personnel and look forward to see what further improvements they spot this season for the draft next season. I especially want to see if a healthy Ogbah combined with the DB changes doubles or even triples our sacks per game rate. I want to see QBs that don't have a Browns uniform on running and ducking and throwing off balance all game long.🥷
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Zombo said:
Did not understand why people were listing Safety as a draft need. Addressed it in the first round last year and picked up a first round talent this year. Randall-Peppers should be the best combo we have had in long time. Excited to see Peppers unleashed this year. Williams knows what he is doing ... His defenses have made it to the SB twice.
Zombo
It's the greatest draft mystery in modern time history
.Why prospect guru's can't seperate who is a Free Safety & who is a Strong Safety is above my pay scale. Most may have posted S meaning FS I assumed? Yes we picked up D.Randall to play FS putting Peppers/Kindred in the right spot at SS. But look behind Randall on the depth chart & one funky twist were back to square meeting round hole again..For every pick starting in the 3rd round a FS prospect came off the board right after..#67-Chad Thomas/Justin Reid went next pick.That one bothered me. #105-Callaway/109 Troy Apke..#150 G. Avery did not hit me as bad after Marcus Allen went #148..but man, he went to Chitzburg..Justin Curry backs up Randall at FS..He's never recovered from a injury as a NYG in 2015.heck we even paid Curry a injury settlement. anywho, Curry is followed by 2 UTFA's..but it is only May
It's the greatest draft mystery in modern time history
.Why prospect guru's can't seperate who is a Free Safety & who is a Strong Safety is above my pay scale. Most may have posted S meaning FS I assumed? Yes we picked up D.Randall to play FS putting Peppers/Kindred in the right spot at SS. But look behind Randall on the depth chart & one funky twist were back to square meeting round hole again..For every pick starting in the 3rd round a FS prospect came off the board right after..#67-Chad Thomas/Justin Reid went next pick.That one bothered me. #105-Callaway/109 Troy Apke..#150 G. Avery did not hit me as bad after Marcus Allen went #148..but man, he went to Chitzburg..Justin Curry backs up Randall at FS..He's never recovered from a injury as a NYG in 2015.heck we even paid Curry a injury settlement. anywho, Curry is followed by 2 UTFA's..but it is only May
"Backup free safety" ... OK, but we exercised a 9 mil option for Randall for next year, so I think they expect him to be the guy, they'll probably work on a new deal for the 25 year old former first round pick who is back at his natural position. I like Justin Currie, can see him sticking with the Special Teams Squad Task Force: Carder, Avery, Currie ... We've also got Deron Smith and three udfa bodies ... I'm sure someone will be good enough to backup and play special teams if we keep four safeties. Lots of duel threats at CB too ... Wilson? Where's he fit?
Zombo
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I meant those folks knowing Peppers skill set. Looks like they were right and Peppers is solely an in the box DB.
The important thing was that Williams, Peppers and Dorsey all knew it and addressed it. I'm very happy about what we have done so far to change up defensive personnel and look forward to see what further improvements they spot this season for the draft next season. I especially want to see if a healthy Ogbah combined with the DB changes doubles or even triples our sacks per game rate. I want to see QBs that don't have a Browns uniform on running and ducking and throwing off balance all game long.🥷
The important thing was that Williams, Peppers and Dorsey all knew it and addressed it. I'm very happy about what we have done so far to change up defensive personnel and look forward to see what further improvements they spot this season for the draft next season. I especially want to see if a healthy Ogbah combined with the DB changes doubles or even triples our sacks per game rate. I want to see QBs that don't have a Browns uniform on running and ducking and throwing off balance all game long.🥷
The smartest move of all was to keep Williams.
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I meant those folks knowing Peppers skill set. Looks like they were right and Peppers is solely an in the box DB.
The important thing was that Williams, Peppers and Dorsey all knew it and addressed it. I'm very happy about what we have done so far to change up defensive personnel and look forward to see what further improvements they spot this season for the draft next season. I especially want to see if a healthy Ogbah combined with the DB changes doubles or even triples our sacks per game rate. I want to see QBs that don't have a Browns uniform on running and ducking and throwing off balance all game long.🥷
The important thing was that Williams, Peppers and Dorsey all knew it and addressed it. I'm very happy about what we have done so far to change up defensive personnel and look forward to see what further improvements they spot this season for the draft next season. I especially want to see if a healthy Ogbah combined with the DB changes doubles or even triples our sacks per game rate. I want to see QBs that don't have a Browns uniform on running and ducking and throwing off balance all game long.🥷
A healthy Garrett and Collins too.
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And Meder.
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