Survey Thursday..The Best Not To
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While Dante Lavelli is in the HOF, there is an argument that the other WR/split end/flanker/whatever they called wide receivers back then Mac Speedie was just as good as Lavelli, if not possibly better, but because of WWII he started his career at an older age. Clay Matthews is a great choice for #1 too
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Here is today's survey....theme "The Best Not To":
1. Who is he best Browns player ever that is not in the HOF? (and whom you think deserves to be in)
2. Who is the best Active QB to not have won a Super Bowl?
3. Who is the best coach in history to have never won a Championship?
4. What is the best team in history to have never really received recognition as a great dynasty...or who fell just short of dynasty status?
5. A. What is the one or two best "tourist attractions"....in the USA that you have not been to but want to go.
B. Same question...except include the entire world.
Here is today's survey....theme "The Best Not To":
1. Who is he best Browns player ever that is not in the HOF? (and whom you think deserves to be in)
Clay Matthews Jr
2. Who is the best Active QB to not have won a Super Bowl?
Phillip Rivers
3. Who is the best coach in history to have never won a Championship?
Marv Levy
4. What is the best team in history to have never really received recognition as a great dynasty...or who fell just short of dynasty status?
Bills from 1988-1993
5. A. What is the one or two best "tourist attractions"....in the USA that you have not been to but want to go.
Mt Rushmore & Everglades
B. Same question...except include the entire world.
Blarney Castle in Ireland.
Mike
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Here is today's survey....theme "The Best Not To":
1. Who is he best Browns player ever that is not in the HOF? (and whom you think deserves to be in)
Clay Matthews
2. Who is the best Active QB to not have won a Super Bowl?
Phillip Rivers
3. Who is the best coach in history to have never won a Championship?
Marty Schottenheimer (Bud Grant, Andy Reid, Dan Reeves also acceptable answers)
4. What is the best team in history to have never really received recognition as a great dynasty...or who fell just short of dynasty status?
Lions 52-57, three championships, one runner-up
5. A. What is the one or two best "tourist attractions"....in the USA that you have not been to but want to go.
Yellowstone and Yosemite
B. Same question...except include the entire world.
Sydney Opera House, Christ the Redeemer
Zombo said:
Here is today's survey....theme "The Best Not To":
1. Who is he best Browns player ever that is not in the HOF? (and whom you think deserves to be in)
Clay Matthews
2. Who is the best Active QB to not have won a Super Bowl?
Phillip Rivers
3. Who is the best coach in history to have never won a Championship?
Marty Schottenheimer (Bud Grant, Andy Reid, Dan Reeves also acceptable answers)
4. What is the best team in history to have never really received recognition as a great dynasty...or who fell just short of dynasty status?
Lions 52-57, three championships, one runner-up
5. A. What is the one or two best "tourist attractions"....in the USA that you have not been to but want to go.
Yellowstone(been 3-4 times Z, put it on your bucket list) Yosemite, Hawaii, top of Mauna Kea for the Observatory, and knock another state high point off the list.
B. Same question...except include the entire world.
Sydney Opera House,Australia OK, but Ayers Rock before Sydney.Christ the RedeemerBordeaux, France.Mostly have to ditto Z, with a few changes.
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When you say include the whole world the Grand Canyon still is there for me although the pyramids always facinated me as a kid.
So many places so little time, relatively speaking.
When you say include the whole world the Grand Canyon still is there for me although the pyramids always facinated me as a kid.
So many places so little time, relatively speaking.
Been to the Canyon, and even hiked it rim to river and back. But I had a way cooler all day hike up the road in Zion National Park.
Speaking of the pyramids, really wanted to go, but cost prohibitive. Those who know me know about my astronomy bent (since I was 6). Can't say I'm a major solar eclipse chaser, though the one last August was #3 for me. Anyhow, in 2006 there was a total solar eclipse that cut across western Egypt, and incidentally part of the Sahara Desert. Odds of seeing said eclipse approaching 100% with a nice side detour to Luxor, Pyramids, & the Sphinx. All this can be yours starting at $4,500 not counting air fare.
PS- that 2006 eclipse is the same one that will cut across the US 6 years hence in 2024- 18 years removed, also the same one Carly Simon sung about in "You're so Vain" in 1970- that I saw back then- 54 years removed. For those who haven't seen one- getting in the path of totality should be one of your bucket list items. LOL, I can sit in my back yard for that one, but I may go 60 miles north to get on the center line. Cleveland is in the path of totality, so you locals won't have to travel either.
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Stonehenge sucks ........ a pile of rocks in a field .....I lasted 2 minutes there ...ok seen the rocks lets go to the pub ....
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Stonehenge sucks ........ a pile of rocks in a field .....I lasted 2 minutes there ...ok seen the rocks lets go to the pub ....
Stonehenge sucks ........ a pile of rocks in a field .....I lasted 2 minutes there ...ok seen the rocks lets go to the pub ....
Yea, but the interesting thing is that they have been there for 5000 years, and that they are perfectly aligned to the winter and summer solstice. Maybe it is more interesting on one of those days....when they bring the pub to the stones.
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Here is today's survey....theme "The Best Not To":
1. Who is he best Browns player ever that is not in the HOF? (and whom you think deserves to be in)
Clay Matthews
2. Who is the best Active QB to not have won a Super Bowl?
Phillip Rivers
3. Who is the best coach in history to have never won a Championship?
Marty Schottenheimer (Bud Grant, Andy Reid, Dan Reeves also acceptable answers)
4. What is the best team in history to have never really received recognition as a great dynasty...or who fell just short of dynasty status?
Lions 52-57, three championships, one runner-up
5. A. What is the one or two best "tourist attractions"....in the USA that you have not been to but want to go.
Yellowstone and Yosemite
B. Same question...except include the entire world.
Sydney Opera House, Christ the Redeemer
Zombo said:
Here is today's survey....theme "The Best Not To":
1. Who is he best Browns player ever that is not in the HOF? (and whom you think deserves to be in)
Clay Matthews
2. Who is the best Active QB to not have won a Super Bowl?
Phillip Rivers
3. Who is the best coach in history to have never won a Championship?
Marty Schottenheimer (Bud Grant, Andy Reid, Dan Reeves also acceptable answers)
4. What is the best team in history to have never really received recognition as a great dynasty...or who fell just short of dynasty status?
Lions 52-57, three championships, one runner-up
5. A. What is the one or two best "tourist attractions"....in the USA that you have not been to but want to go.
Yellowstone and Yosemite
B. Same question...except include the entire world.
Sydney Opera House, Christ the Redeemer
I love the Sydney Opera House. Hopefully I'll visit it some day! I also like visiting parks so if I ever go to the US probably Yellowstone is going to be in my wishlist.
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Some compilaton on this:
1. Browns player most deserving of HOF: Clay Matthews 5 votes. Shafrath 1 vote. Mac Speedie 1 vote.. (if you all would study up on how good Shafrath was...you would agree with me)
2. Best QB to not win SB: Unanimous: Phil Rivers
3. Best HC to not win a title: Marty 2 votes.....Reid 1....Grant...1...Levy...1
4. Closest to dynasty: Bills 4 votes.......Lions 2 votes. though on this one.....there were kind of two different questions asked: A. Which team was the best "not quite" dynasty...and B. Which Dynasty has gone unrecognized. So, for A, I think it is the Bills, and for B...the Lions.
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Here is today's survey....theme "The Best Not To":
1. Who is he best Browns player ever that is not in the HOF? (and whom you think deserves to be in)
2. Who is the best Active QB to not have won a Super Bowl?
3. Who is the best coach in history to have never won a Championship?
4. What is the best team in history to have never really received recognition as a great dynasty...or who fell just short of dynasty status?
5. A. What is the one or two best "tourist attractions"....in the USA that you have not been to but want to go.
B. Same question...except include the entire world.
Here is today's survey....theme "The Best Not To":
1. Who is he best Browns player ever that is not in the HOF? (and whom you think deserves to be in)
Clay Mathews
2. Who is the best Active QB to not have won a Super Bowl?
Matt Stafford
3. Who is the best coach in history to have never won a Championship?
Chuck Knox
4. What is the best team in history to have never really received recognition as a great dynasty...or who fell just short of dynasty status?
Buffalo Bills (4 SB appearances)
5. A. What is the one or two best "tourist attractions"....in the USA that you have not been to but want to go.
Grand Canyon and monument Valley...
B. Same question...except include the entire world.
Stonehenge and the Giza Plateau...
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Some compilaton on this:
1. Browns player most deserving of HOF: Clay Matthews 5 votes. Shafrath 1 vote. Mac Speedie 1 vote.. (if you all would study up on how good Shafrath was...you would agree with me)
2. Best QB to not win SB: Unanimous: Phil Rivers
3. Best HC to not win a title: Marty 2 votes.....Reid 1....Grant...1...Levy...1
4. Closest to dynasty: Bills 4 votes.......Lions 2 votes. though on this one.....there were kind of two different questions asked: A. Which team was the best "not quite" dynasty...and B. Which Dynasty has gone unrecognized. So, for A, I think it is the Bills, and for B...the Lions.
3. Best HC to not win a title: Marty 2 votes.....Reid 1....Grant...1...Levy...1
Chuck Knox, who passed away Saturday, belongs in the conversation. "Ground Chuck" was the more consevative counterpart to "Air Coryell", won Coach of the Year three times with three different teams (Rams, Bills, Seahawks). I remember him most with those 70's Rams with Lawrence McCutcheon running the ball and that tough D, seems they won the NFC West every year, and then with the Seahwaks, Dave Kreig and Kurt Warner ... made it to the AFC Championship with that group and made Seattle a legit football town. Never really had a franchise QB, but from 1973 to 1990 had 14 winning seasons in 18 years.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/former-seahawks-coach-chuck-knox-dies-86-201913722.html
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3. Best HC to not win a title: Marty 2 votes.....Reid 1....Grant...1...Levy...1
Chuck Knox, who passed away Saturday, belongs in the conversation. "Ground Chuck" was the more consevative counterpart to "Air Coryell", won Coach of the Year three times with three different teams (Rams, Bills, Seahawks). I remember him most with those 70's Rams with Lawrence McCutcheon running the ball and that tough D, seems they won the NFC West every year, and then with the Seahwaks, Dave Kreig and Kurt Warner ... made it to the AFC Championship with that group and made Seattle a legit football town. Never really had a franchise QB, but from 1973 to 1990 had 14 winning seasons in 18 years.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/former-seahawks-coach-chuck-knox-dies-86-201913722.html
Zombo said:
Chuck Knox, who passed away Saturday, belongs in the conversation. "Ground Chuck" was the more consevative counterpart to "Air Coryell", won Coach of the Year three times with three different teams (Rams, Bills, Seahawks). I remember him most with those 70's Rams with Lawrence McCutcheon running the ball and that tough D, seems they won the NFC West every year, and then with the Seahwaks, Dave Kreig and Kurt Warner ... made it to the AFC Championship with that group and made Seattle a legit football town. Never really had a franchise QB, but from 1973 to 1990 had 14 winning seasons in 18 years.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/former-seahawks-coach-chuck-knox-dies-86-201913722.html
I did not hear about his death. Thanks for the update. Note that in my post I did include Knox as one of the 5-6 candidates for "the best HC to never win a title".
Is Marv Levy still alive? He was very old when he was coaching the Bills.
Edit: in checking....Levy still with us at age 92
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Zombo said:
Chuck Knox, who passed away Saturday, belongs in the conversation. "Ground Chuck" was the more consevative counterpart to "Air Coryell", won Coach of the Year three times with three different teams (Rams, Bills, Seahawks). I remember him most with those 70's Rams with Lawrence McCutcheon running the ball and that tough D, seems they won the NFC West every year, and then with the Seahwaks, Dave Kreig and Kurt Warner ... made it to the AFC Championship with that group and made Seattle a legit football town. Never really had a franchise QB, but from 1973 to 1990 had 14 winning seasons in 18 years.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/former-seahawks-coach-chuck-knox-dies-86-201913722.html
I did not hear about his death. Thanks for the update. Note that in my post I did include Knox as one of the 5-6 candidates for "the best HC to never win a title".
Is Marv Levy still alive? He was very old when he was coaching the Bills.
Edit: in checking....Levy still with us at age 92
I did not hear about his death. Thanks for the update. Note that in my post I did include Knox as one of the 5-6 candidates for "the best HC to never win a title".
Is Marv Levy still alive? He was very old when he was coaching the Bills.
Marv Lives.
Zombo
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Bud Grant is 88.....and still kicking.
And just this past fall....he went out for the coin toss in a Polo Shirt in 6 below weather:
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I did not hear about his death. Thanks for the update. Note that in my post I did include Knox as one of the 5-6 candidates for "the best HC to never win a title".
Is Marv Levy still alive? He was very old when he was coaching the Bills.
Marv Lives.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Marv Lives.
Zombo
So....there is hope for Middle Earth!!
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Zombo said:
Marv Lives.
Zombo
So....there is hope for Middle Earth!!
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Zombo said:
No one knows what that means.
Zombo
I wager that more people on here know the reference than don't.
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1. Who is he best Browns player ever that is not in the HOF? (and whom you think deserves to be in)
Clay Matthews
2. Who is the best Active QB to not have won a Super Bowl?
Phil Rivers
3. Who is the best coach in history to have never won a Championship?
Bud Grant
4. What is the best team in history to have never really received recognition as a great dynasty...or who fell just short of dynasty status?
Buffalo Bills and that's the reason Bud got my vote in 4. The Bills should of been a dynasty but managed to choke every time.
5. A. What is the one or two best "tourist attractions"....in the USA that you have not been to but want to go.
Alaska Denali Park
B. Same question...except include the entire world.
Australia, New Zealand & Christ The Redeemer
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