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  • If it's a genuine Nazi weapon that thing is worth thousands. 

  • If it's a genuine Nazi weapon that thing is worth thousands. 

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    If it's a genuine Nazi weapon that thing is worth thousands. 

    It is definitely genuine.   My Dad brought it back from the war. 

    If and when I decide to sell....will one of you pay me thousands you say it is worth?

  • If it's a genuine Nazi weapon that thing is worth thousands. 

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    If it's a genuine Nazi weapon that thing is worth thousands. 

    I totally agree with DH. Thousands because it's not only Nazi, but is a rare weapon on top of that. That guy was trying to take you or he's an idiot.

    This will give you an idea about how much a less rare Luger pistol is worth and then figure rare on top of that. Real collectors will pay more than you would ever think.

    https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/whats-my-dads-1942-p08-german-luger-worth.110047/

  • Here is what is being asked for a WWII Mauser and if you look at the pics, there is a lot of rust on it.

    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/770010574

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    If it's a genuine Nazi weapon that thing is worth thousands. 

    I totally agree with DH. Thousands because it's not only Nazi, but is a rare weapon on top of that. That guy was trying to take you or he's an idiot.

    This will give you an idea about how much a less rare Luger pistol is worth and then figure rare on top of that. Real collectors will pay more than you would ever think.

    https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/whats-my-dads-1942-p08-german-luger-worth.110047/

    @texasag1969 said:

    I totally agree with DH. Thousands because it's not only Nazi, but is a rare weapon on top of that. That guy was trying to take you or he's an idiot.

    This will give you an idea about how much a less rare Luger pistol is worth and then figure rare on top of that. Real collectors will pay more than you would ever think.

    https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/whats-my-dads-1942-p08-german-luger-worth.110047/

    Well....one place was a pawn shop....and no doubt they would try to rip you off.  But the other was supposed to be a firearms expert. And he is the one that said it was only worth 2-300 dollars. 

    So....let me know when one of you is willing to pay me 3K for it. 😉

  • Here is what is being asked for a WWII Mauser and if you look at the pics, there is a lot of rust on it.

    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/770010574

    @texasag1969 said:

    Here is what is being asked for a WWII Mauser and if you look at the pics, there is a lot of rust on it.

    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/770010574

    "Asked" is not the same as "paid".  I saw a number of them in ebay that they were asking 2-3 K  for.   Did not see where anyone ever bid close to those figures though. 

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    If it's a genuine Nazi weapon that thing is worth thousands. 

    I totally agree with DH. Thousands because it's not only Nazi, but is a rare weapon on top of that. That guy was trying to take you or he's an idiot.

    This will give you an idea about how much a less rare Luger pistol is worth and then figure rare on top of that. Real collectors will pay more than you would ever think.

    https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/whats-my-dads-1942-p08-german-luger-worth.110047/

    @texasag1969 said:

    I totally agree with DH. Thousands because it's not only Nazi, but is a rare weapon on top of that. That guy was trying to take you or he's an idiot.

    This will give you an idea about how much a less rare Luger pistol is worth and then figure rare on top of that. Real collectors will pay more than you would ever think.

    https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/whats-my-dads-1942-p08-german-luger-worth.110047/

    On the last Wednesday night at the Range they had a show on the Lugers, the rare ones are worth a nice fortune, with matching numbers a huge fortune.....for a handgun. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Here is what is being asked for a WWII Mauser and if you look at the pics, there is a lot of rust on it.

    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/770010574

    "Asked" is not the same as "paid".  I saw a number of them in ebay that they were asking 2-3 K  for.   Did not see where anyone ever bid close to those figures though. 

    @the-gipper said:

    "Asked" is not the same as "paid".  I saw a number of them in ebay that they were asking 2-3 K  for.   Did not see where anyone ever bid close to those figures though. 

    Send me the serial numbers PM and I'll ask a reputable dealer/trader I know in Austin. If it's $10,000 I'll pay you the $3,000 and come get it myself. LOL!😆

    Any rust on it anywhere or is it still in decent shape?

    Any other markings including Caliber, maker, any dates or numbers and exactly what the Nazi marking looks like (size, etc.) would be of help as well. Does it still have the original strap or any magazines that go with it?

  • @the-gipper said:

    "Asked" is not the same as "paid".  I saw a number of them in ebay that they were asking 2-3 K  for.   Did not see where anyone ever bid close to those figures though. 

    Send me the serial numbers PM and I'll ask a reputable dealer/trader I know in Austin. If it's $10,000 I'll pay you the $3,000 and come get it myself. LOL!😆

    Any rust on it anywhere or is it still in decent shape?

    Any other markings including Caliber, maker, any dates or numbers and exactly what the Nazi marking looks like (size, etc.) would be of help as well. Does it still have the original strap or any magazines that go with it?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Send me the serial numbers PM and I'll ask a reputable dealer/trader I know in Austin. If it's $10,000 I'll pay you the $3,000 and come get it myself. LOL!😆

    Any rust on it anywhere or is it still in decent shape?

    Any other markings including Caliber, maker, any dates or numbers and exactly what the Nazi marking looks like (size, etc.) would be of help as well. Does it still have the original strap or any magazines that go with it?

    I will have to look at it closely for the stuff you want.:  numbers etc.  No rust to speak of...still in good shape   It has a couple of the Nazi insignias, that are very very small. But no strap or magazines.

  • The Lugers were very finely machined and assembled German pistols and rather expensive  which don't lend themselves well to major war efforts. Most people think of WWII when talking about lugars or the bad guys in movies but they go well back from that.

    The Pistole Parabellum—or Parabellum-Pistole (Pistol Parabellum), commonly known in the United States as just Luger[4]—is a toggle-locked recoil-operated semi-automatic pistol produced in several models and by several nations from 1898 to 1948. The design was first patented by Georg Luger as an improvement upon the Borchardt Automatic Pistol, and was produced as the Parabellum Automatic Pistol, Borchardt-Luger System by the German arms manufacturer Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken(DWM).[1] The first production model was known as the Modell 1900 Parabellum.[1] Later versions included the Pistol Parabellum Model 1908 or P08 which was produced by DWM and other manufacturers such as W+F Bern, Krieghoff, Simson, Mauser, and Vickers;[5] The first Parabellum pistol was adopted by the Swiss army in May 1900. In German Army service, the Parabellum was later adopted in modified form as the Pistol Model 1908 (P08) in caliber 9×19mm Parabellum.[1] The Model 08 was eventually succeeded in and partly replaced by the Walther P38.

    The Luger is well known from its use by Germans during World War I and World War II, along with the interwar Weimar Republic and the postwar East German Volkspolizei. Although the P.08 was introduced in 7.65mm Parabellum, it is notable for being the pistol for which the 9×19mm Parabellum (also known as the 9×19mm Luger) cartridge was developed. Because of its association with Nazi Germany, the pistol has been used in fictional works by many villainous characters over the past several decades........

    Not exactly a good concealed carry gun but great for serious collectors. 

  • Interesting that the Ruger I just bought requires the "Luger" 9mm round. I have some older "Black Talon" rounds left to keep in it for concealed carry. They don't make those anymore. Winchester replaced it with PDX1 Defender in regular or +P. But the old Black Talon was a hollow point round that had 6 little "talons" that split and expanded outward from the core of the bullet. Vicious little round.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Talon

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Glock 26 Gen 3 (9MM)

     

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    The Glock 26 was designed for concealed carry. It has a small frame and short barrel that make it easy to hide anywhere on the body – and it also packs the power of 10+1 rounds of 9mm.

    X-zactly what wife & Myself carry for 5 years now.Seller wanted $485/gun but got the pair for $900 at a Gun Show in Raleigh,NC..Pin a target to a tree & turn her loose it's like bringing her home a new pair of shoes with a free purse 😎  

    @gumby73 said:

    X-zactly what wife & Myself carry for 5 years now.Seller wanted $485/gun but got the pair for $900 at a Gun Show in Raleigh,NC..Pin a target to a tree & turn her loose it's like bringing her home a new pair of shoes with a free purse 😎  

    For anyone interested I found this standardized testing of multiple rounds for multiple calibers @ luckygunner.com. Only thing on here I am not sure of is the Cor-bon all-copper PDX for my 9mm because the owner sold out to another company and some testing of the Gen 2 I found on the internet has a little less "spread" diameter than the original, which was one of the very best rounds for 9mm ever created. The Barnes +p round had similar results with a very similar bullet, but you can't just shoot a lot through any handgun not designed for +P  without shortening barrel life. But either is an excellent concealed carry round. 

    https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#9mm

  • @gumby73 said:

    X-zactly what wife & Myself carry for 5 years now.Seller wanted $485/gun but got the pair for $900 at a Gun Show in Raleigh,NC..Pin a target to a tree & turn her loose it's like bringing her home a new pair of shoes with a free purse 😎  

    For anyone interested I found this standardized testing of multiple rounds for multiple calibers @ luckygunner.com. Only thing on here I am not sure of is the Cor-bon all-copper PDX for my 9mm because the owner sold out to another company and some testing of the Gen 2 I found on the internet has a little less "spread" diameter than the original, which was one of the very best rounds for 9mm ever created. The Barnes +p round had similar results with a very similar bullet, but you can't just shoot a lot through any handgun not designed for +P  without shortening barrel life. But either is an excellent concealed carry round. 

    https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#9mm

    @texasag1969 said:

    For anyone interested I found this standardized testing of multiple rounds for multiple calibers @ luckygunner.com. Only thing on here I am not sure of is the Cor-bon all-copper PDX for my 9mm because the owner sold out to another company and some testing of the Gen 2 I found on the internet has a little less "spread" diameter than the original, which was one of the very best rounds for 9mm ever created. The Barnes +p round had similar results with a very similar bullet, but you can't just shoot a lot through any handgun not designed for +P  without shortening barrel life. But either is an excellent concealed carry round. 

    https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#9mm

    Tex,   I am PMing you those numbers.  Also, FYI...if does have the strap...but no magazines

  • @texasag1969 said:

    For anyone interested I found this standardized testing of multiple rounds for multiple calibers @ luckygunner.com. Only thing on here I am not sure of is the Cor-bon all-copper PDX for my 9mm because the owner sold out to another company and some testing of the Gen 2 I found on the internet has a little less "spread" diameter than the original, which was one of the very best rounds for 9mm ever created. The Barnes +p round had similar results with a very similar bullet, but you can't just shoot a lot through any handgun not designed for +P  without shortening barrel life. But either is an excellent concealed carry round. 

    https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#9mm

    Tex,   I am PMing you those numbers.  Also, FYI...if does have the strap...but no magazines

    @the-gipper said:

    Tex,   I am PMing you those numbers.  Also, FYI...if does have the strap...but no magazines

    That's a major plus. Magazines are easier to find normally I think.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Tex,   I am PMing you those numbers.  Also, FYI...if does have the strap...but no magazines

    That's a major plus. Magazines are easier to find normally I think.

    @texasag1969 said:

    That's a major plus. Magazines are easier to find normally I think.

    To be honest with you though....the strap appears to be  American "Army Green"......so it may not be the original German strap that came with the rifle.   But, it is a strap.  

    This looks almost exactly like the rifle I have:

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    But that is not the strap that it has.

    Though, I did find this photo with a search of Nazi Rifle straps, and this does look a lot like the strap it has: 

    Surplus-Chinese-Army-Rifle-Sling-Strap-3

  • Tex, if you PM me a text number, I can send you some photos of what I have.

    I appreciate your help. 

    It would be nice to know a true value....but it may also not be appropriate for me to sell it, but to rather give it to family.  I have one nephew who is very big into guns. Yea, he is a big fuyucking redneck.   We get along great notwithstanding.

    My son has no interest in guns, but he may have interest in an heirloom like this.  

  • Tex, if you PM me a text number, I can send you some photos of what I have.

    I appreciate your help. 

    It would be nice to know a true value....but it may also not be appropriate for me to sell it, but to rather give it to family.  I have one nephew who is very big into guns. Yea, he is a big fuyucking redneck.   We get along great notwithstanding.

    My son has no interest in guns, but he may have interest in an heirloom like this.  

    @the-gipper said:

    Tex, if you PM me a text number, I can send you some photos of what I have.

    I appreciate your help. 

    It would be nice to know a true value....but it may also not be appropriate for me to sell it, but to rather give it to family.  I have one nephew who is very big into guns. Yea, he is a big fuyucking redneck.   We get along great notwithstanding.

    My son has no interest in guns, but he may have interest in an heirloom like this.  

    I can access the BB on my cell phone and get this stuff up that way. If I run into trouble with that I will let you know. I'll take my username/password to BB with me if I need to go there in person. I'll also take information from the PMs.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Tex, if you PM me a text number, I can send you some photos of what I have.

    I appreciate your help. 

    It would be nice to know a true value....but it may also not be appropriate for me to sell it, but to rather give it to family.  I have one nephew who is very big into guns. Yea, he is a big fuyucking redneck.   We get along great notwithstanding.

    My son has no interest in guns, but he may have interest in an heirloom like this.  

    I can access the BB on my cell phone and get this stuff up that way. If I run into trouble with that I will let you know. I'll take my username/password to BB with me if I need to go there in person. I'll also take information from the PMs.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I can access the BB on my cell phone and get this stuff up that way. If I run into trouble with that I will let you know. I'll take my username/password to BB with me if I need to go there in person. I'll also take information from the PMs.

    I don't want to get ahead of ourselves.  And I certainly would not want you to make a trip here for no reason.  

    As I said, I do want to know about the value,  but I do feel that I could not sell it without the consent of my Dad's grandchildren who may have an interest in it.  I do feel that I am holding it as a sort of fiduciary, and if there was an objection by one of them that they would want it......or that they may want a right of first refusal on it, I may have to do with that.  I am certain you understand.

    Nevertheless, it may be a possibility.   Thanks for your interest.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I can access the BB on my cell phone and get this stuff up that way. If I run into trouble with that I will let you know. I'll take my username/password to BB with me if I need to go there in person. I'll also take information from the PMs.

    I don't want to get ahead of ourselves.  And I certainly would not want you to make a trip here for no reason.  

    As I said, I do want to know about the value,  but I do feel that I could not sell it without the consent of my Dad's grandchildren who may have an interest in it.  I do feel that I am holding it as a sort of fiduciary, and if there was an objection by one of them that they would want it......or that they may want a right of first refusal on it, I may have to do with that.  I am certain you understand.

    Nevertheless, it may be a possibility.   Thanks for your interest.

    @the-gipper said:

    I don't want to get ahead of ourselves.  And I certainly would not want you to make a trip here for no reason.  

    As I said, I do want to know about the value,  but I do feel that I could not sell it without the consent of my Dad's grandchildren who may have an interest in it.  I do feel that I am holding it as a sort of fiduciary, and if there was an objection by one of them that they would want it......or that they may want a right of first refusal on it, I may have to do with that.  I am certain you understand.

    Nevertheless, it may be a possibility.   Thanks for your interest.

    I'm just interest Gip. And the picture you showed is a bolt action, not automatic or semi-automatic. So is yours bolt action like the one you showed, because that is different from the one I previously linked which was auto or semi-auto?

    I understand about the legacy. I have that Ruger .357 Mag single action I bought after Vietnam that I continue to keep for my son and grandson just because with it my Dad showed me what Annie Oakley must have looked like to amateurs like me. Holy cow my Dad could shoot. Never seen anyone that good before or since.

  • @the-gipper said:

    I don't want to get ahead of ourselves.  And I certainly would not want you to make a trip here for no reason.  

    As I said, I do want to know about the value,  but I do feel that I could not sell it without the consent of my Dad's grandchildren who may have an interest in it.  I do feel that I am holding it as a sort of fiduciary, and if there was an objection by one of them that they would want it......or that they may want a right of first refusal on it, I may have to do with that.  I am certain you understand.

    Nevertheless, it may be a possibility.   Thanks for your interest.

    I'm just interest Gip. And the picture you showed is a bolt action, not automatic or semi-automatic. So is yours bolt action like the one you showed, because that is different from the one I previously linked which was auto or semi-auto?

    I understand about the legacy. I have that Ruger .357 Mag single action I bought after Vietnam that I continue to keep for my son and grandson just because with it my Dad showed me what Annie Oakley must have looked like to amateurs like me. Holy cow my Dad could shoot. Never seen anyone that good before or since.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'm just interest Gip. And the picture you showed is a bolt action, not automatic or semi-automatic. So is yours bolt action like the one you showed, because that is different from the one I previously linked which was auto or semi-auto?

    I understand about the legacy. I have that Ruger .357 Mag single action I bought after Vietnam that I continue to keep for my son and grandson just because with it my Dad showed me what Annie Oakley must have looked like to amateurs like me. Holy cow my Dad could shoot. Never seen anyone that good before or since.

    Tex,

    Yes, I believe that it is a bolt action rifle.   I see no indices of semi...or automatic.

    On the other subject,  while I know that my Dad had handguns, I do not ever recall seeing ever firing one.  Rifles and shotguns, but no handguns.