Dwight Clark passes away, 61
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What can you say about this, that we all aren't thinking? Jesus, 61? People, have a toast to life this week. I am too lazy to go Google, was he sick?
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Dwight Clark's drafts as Browns GM 1999-2002
Believe it or not ... He built a playoff team. Clark got into a power struggle, and lost, with Butch Davis and he left in May 2002 and Butch took over "Grand Poobah" duties. Ironically, Clark was a big part of recruiting Butch Davis.
Those 2002 Browns made the playoffs, and behind Kelly Holcomb, gave the Stillers the scare of their lives in the Wild Card Round. Davis was gone a couple years later after some bad drafts and worse coaching, and a panic attack over a regular season game with the Bengals.
Clark's most valuable pick? According to career AV, that would be Gerard Warren, but much of that not accumulated with Browns.
Value picks? Wali Rainer in the fourth, Dennis Northcutt in the 2nd, Anthony Henry in the 4th, Andra Davis in the 5th.
Zombo
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Dwight Clark's drafts as Browns GM 1999-2002
Believe it or not ... He built a playoff team. Clark got into a power struggle, and lost, with Butch Davis and he left in May 2002 and Butch took over "Grand Poobah" duties. Ironically, Clark was a big part of recruiting Butch Davis.
Those 2002 Browns made the playoffs, and behind Kelly Holcomb, gave the Stillers the scare of their lives in the Wild Card Round. Davis was gone a couple years later after some bad drafts and worse coaching, and a panic attack over a regular season game with the Bengals.
Clark's most valuable pick? According to career AV, that would be Gerard Warren, but much of that not accumulated with Browns.
Value picks? Wali Rainer in the fourth, Dennis Northcutt in the 2nd, Anthony Henry in the 4th, Andra Davis in the 5th.
Zombo
Zombo said:
.......Believe it or not ... He built a playoff team. Clark got into a power struggle, and lost, with Butch Davis and he left in May 2002 and Butch took over "Grand Poobah" duties. Ironically, Clark was a big part of recruiting Butch Davis.
Those 2002 Browns made the playoffs, and behind Kelly Holcomb, gave the Stillers the scare of their lives in the Wild Card Round. Davis was gone a couple years later after some bad drafts and worse coaching, and a panic attack over a regular season game with the Bengals.
Clark's most valuable pick? According to career AV, that would be Gerard Warren, but much of that not accumulated with Browns.
Value picks? Wali Rainer in the fourth, Dennis Northcutt in the 2nd, Anthony Henry in the 4th, Andra Davis in the 5th.
Zombo
For all of the pretty much flop #1 picks they were getting somewhat near competitive football but all in all wasn't up to the old BROWNS football standards and just tanked after that.
I wasn't really totally impressed with coach Palmer either, don't remember who's decision that was.
I also remembered "Charmin' Carmen" Policy, his house was about 1.5 miles from mine when I first moved to Boardman, my cousin did business with his former law partner.
All in an era some BROWNS fans don't want or just care that much about remembering.
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Gone like that.
You know youre getting old when NFL players that you watched in what seems like last year are passing away due to illness. 61 is young, but not unheard of to become sick and die.
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Zombo said:
.......Believe it or not ... He built a playoff team. Clark got into a power struggle, and lost, with Butch Davis and he left in May 2002 and Butch took over "Grand Poobah" duties. Ironically, Clark was a big part of recruiting Butch Davis.
Those 2002 Browns made the playoffs, and behind Kelly Holcomb, gave the Stillers the scare of their lives in the Wild Card Round. Davis was gone a couple years later after some bad drafts and worse coaching, and a panic attack over a regular season game with the Bengals.
Clark's most valuable pick? According to career AV, that would be Gerard Warren, but much of that not accumulated with Browns.
Value picks? Wali Rainer in the fourth, Dennis Northcutt in the 2nd, Anthony Henry in the 4th, Andra Davis in the 5th.
Zombo
For all of the pretty much flop #1 picks they were getting somewhat near competitive football but all in all wasn't up to the old BROWNS football standards and just tanked after that.
I wasn't really totally impressed with coach Palmer either, don't remember who's decision that was.
I also remembered "Charmin' Carmen" Policy, his house was about 1.5 miles from mine when I first moved to Boardman, my cousin did business with his former law partner.
All in an era some BROWNS fans don't want or just care that much about remembering.
For all of the pretty much flop #1 picks they were getting somewhat near competitive football but all in all wasn't up to the old BROWNS football standards and just tanked after that.
I wasn't really totally impressed with coach Palmer either, don't remember who's decision that was.
I also remembered "Charmin' Carmen" Policy, his house was about 1.5 miles from mine when I first moved to Boardman, my cousin did business with his former law partner.
All in an era some BROWNS fans don't want or just care that much about remembering.
Clark sure had an eye for WRs.
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For all of the pretty much flop #1 picks they were getting somewhat near competitive football but all in all wasn't up to the old BROWNS football standards and just tanked after that.
I wasn't really totally impressed with coach Palmer either, don't remember who's decision that was.
I also remembered "Charmin' Carmen" Policy, his house was about 1.5 miles from mine when I first moved to Boardman, my cousin did business with his former law partner.
All in an era some BROWNS fans don't want or just care that much about remembering.
Clark sure had an eye for WRs.
Clark sure had an eye for WRs.
unlike Matt Millen
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Clark sure had an eye for WRs.
unlike Matt Millen
unlike Matt Millen
Johnson, Northcutt, Davis and Morgan.
All great WRs. Add Andra Davis, Courtney Brown. Warren was a very decent DT.
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Let's not get all revisionist history here...
Dwight Clark was a helluva player, but he was not a good GM. He wasn't even hired to be the GM, but because the NFL put the Browns behind the 8 ball by giving them virtually no time to start their franchise, he kind of fell into the position.
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unlike Matt Millen
Johnson, Northcutt, Davis and Morgan.
All great WRs. Add Andra Davis, Courtney Brown. Warren was a very decent DT.
Johnson, Northcutt, Davis and Morgan.
All great WRs. Add Andra Davis, Courtney Brown. Warren was a very decent DT.
No he wasn't not for us he wasn'tNo he wasn't not for us he wasn't
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unlike Matt Millen
Johnson, Northcutt, Davis and Morgan.
All great WRs. Add Andra Davis, Courtney Brown. Warren was a very decent DT.
Johnson, Northcutt, Davis and Morgan.
All great WRs. Add Andra Davis, Courtney Brown. Warren was a very decent DT.
Courtney Brown never lived up to his draft status. Warren was a journeyman at best, mostly not with the Browns. And I haven't forgotten we took " Spare Change" with Ladanian Tomlinson and Richard Seymour still on the board either. MHO rates as a top 5 Browns draft screw up.
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Big Money Warren sucked.
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Johnson, Northcutt, Davis and Morgan.
All great WRs. Add Andra Davis, Courtney Brown. Warren was a very decent DT.
No he wasn't not for us he wasn'tNo he wasn't not for us he wasn't
No he wasn't not for us he wasn'tNo he wasn't not for us he wasn't
You can say that again.
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Big Money Warren sucked.
Big Money Warren sucked.
5 sacks and 31 tackles his first season is good. Then, another 5 sack season and 3 - 4 sack seasons. Was he worth the 3rd pick in the draft? No.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WarrGe20.htm
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Johnson, Northcutt, Davis and Morgan.
All great WRs. Add Andra Davis, Courtney Brown. Warren was a very decent DT.
Courtney Brown never lived up to his draft status. Warren was a journeyman at best, mostly not with the Browns. And I haven't forgotten we took " Spare Change" with Ladanian Tomlinson and Richard Seymour still on the board either. MHO rates as a top 5 Browns draft screw up.
Courtney Brown never lived up to his draft status. Warren was a journeyman at best, mostly not with the Browns. And I haven't forgotten we took " Spare Change" with Ladanian Tomlinson and Richard Seymour still on the board either. MHO rates as a top 5 Browns draft screw up.
Brown showed spurts of being great as I recall. Injuries did him in as I look back.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowCo22.htm
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Courtney Brown never lived up to his draft status. Warren was a journeyman at best, mostly not with the Browns. And I haven't forgotten we took " Spare Change" with Ladanian Tomlinson and Richard Seymour still on the board either. MHO rates as a top 5 Browns draft screw up.
Brown showed spurts of being great as I recall. Injuries did him in as I look back.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowCo22.htm
Brown showed spurts of being great as I recall. Injuries did him in as I look back.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowCo22.htm
Then he's an "injury bust", not as bad as Ki-Jana Carter. But certainly not worth the #1 overall pick. You expect a multi time pro bowl HOFer on the level of a Lawrence Taylor drafting that high. It happens, Aundray Bruce is another example. Also way back we drafted a high potential wr by the name of Lawyer Tillman, who couldn't stay healthy. I just hope Corey Coleman isn't on a similar career track.
I don't remember who said it, but Brown got called out for being "soft".
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Brown showed spurts of being great as I recall. Injuries did him in as I look back.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowCo22.htm
Then he's an "injury bust", not as bad as Ki-Jana Carter. But certainly not worth the #1 overall pick. You expect a multi time pro bowl HOFer on the level of a Lawrence Taylor drafting that high. It happens, Aundray Bruce is another example. Also way back we drafted a high potential wr by the name of Lawyer Tillman, who couldn't stay healthy. I just hope Corey Coleman isn't on a similar career track.
I don't remember who said it, but Brown got called out for being "soft".
I don't remember who said it, but Brown got called out for being "soft".
Did his name have these letters G H O O L I E?
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Did his name have these letters G H O O L I E?
Damn, you made me use Google? It was Warren Sapp. http://www.news-herald.com/article/HR/20021014/NEWS/310149988
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Did his name have these letters G H O O L I E?
Damn, you made me use Google? It was Warren Sapp. http://www.news-herald.com/article/HR/20021014/NEWS/310149988
Damn, you made me use Google? It was Warren Sapp. http://www.news-herald.com/article/HR/20021014/NEWS/310149988
I was at that game. They lined Sapp up at fullback and he plowed straight over Brown.
Ya, Courtney was an athletic freak, but he was softspoken and didn't have that killer instinct. Shouldn't have been taken #1 overall. I wanted Arrington, Penn State's brash leader that draft, he was a great one but career curtailed to injury.
Zombo
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