CB Sam Beal worth a 2019 draft pick?
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Well worth a 3rd rounder. A 2nd would be a alot with the size of our db room right now.
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There were several trades involving 2019 draft picks -- GB has 2 firsts; Baltimore, Chicago, KC, Indy, Houston all have 2 seconds.
All of those with an extra second-rounder need CB help.. wouldn't surprise me if one of them rolled the dice
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Well worth a 3rd rounder. A 2nd would be a alot with the size of our db room right now.
Well worth a 3rd rounder. A 2nd would be a alot with the size of our db room right now.
with gaines injury history that room may not be as crowded as you think
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CB Sam Beal still is & has been 2019 mocked on waltersfootball to the Colts at #36 in 2nd round for a while..Sure would throw a 3rd rounder but both Bears & Denver wanted Denzel Ward so Denver sits at #47. Pats 48 & 63. Pitts. 53. GB 56. KC still Marcus Peters-less sits at 58. All need CB..we'd need some luck throwing a 3rd rounder.
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Doesn't he have a bum knee that's going to hold him out of training camp or something? I was under the impression he would be available in the later rounds.
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Well worth a 3rd rounder. A 2nd would be a alot with the size of our db room right now.
with gaines injury history that room may not be as crowded as you think
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After Howard Wilson's patella tendon surgery today [he's out now for 2018 as well] this looks a lot more possible than it was just 24h ago.. I thought Wilson would be the 4th CB they'd keep bc he was running with the 2's. Currie can play CB as well of course.
CB - Ward/Gaines/BBC/ [Wilson]
S - Peppers/Randall/Currie/Kindred
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Real chance we throw a 2nd rounder out there now.
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After Howard Wilson's patella tendon surgery today [he's out now for 2018 as well] this looks a lot more possible than it was just 24h ago.. I thought Wilson would be the 4th CB they'd keep bc he was running with the 2's. Currie can play CB as well of course.
CB - Ward/Gaines/BBC/ [Wilson]
S - Peppers/Randall/Currie/Kindred
After Howard Wilson's patella tendon surgery today [he's out now for 2018 as well] this looks a lot more possible than it was just 24h ago.. I thought Wilson would be the 4th CB they'd keep bc he was running with the 2's. Currie can play CB as well of course.
CB - Ward/Gaines/BBC/ [Wilson]
S - Peppers/Randall/Currie/Kindred
I think you are forgetting about "Carrie" as opposed to "Currie"
Ward and Carrie are the starters, then Gaines, then Mitchell and BBC.
Simeon Thomas is a press corner just drafted in the 6th round that'll get a good look too.
Justin Currie is a special teamer who will be in the fight a fourth safety spot with Derron Smith ... Behind Peppers, Randall and Kindred
Z
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After Howard Wilson's patella tendon surgery today [he's out now for 2018 as well] this looks a lot more possible than it was just 24h ago.. I thought Wilson would be the 4th CB they'd keep bc he was running with the 2's. Currie can play CB as well of course.
CB - Ward/Gaines/BBC/ [Wilson]
S - Peppers/Randall/Currie/Kindred
I think you are forgetting about "Carrie" as opposed to "Currie"
Ward and Carrie are the starters, then Gaines, then Mitchell and BBC.
Simeon Thomas is a press corner just drafted in the 6th round that'll get a good look too.
Justin Currie is a special teamer who will be in the fight a fourth safety spot with Derron Smith ... Behind Peppers, Randall and Kindred
Z
Zombo said:
I think you are forgetting about "Carrie" as opposed to "Currie"
Ward and Carrie are the starters, then Gaines, then Mitchell and BBC.
Simeon Thomas is a press corner just drafted in the 6th round that'll get a good look too.
Justin Currie is a special teamer who will be in the fight a fourth safety spot with Derron Smith ... Behind Peppers, Randall and Kindred
Z
Wonder if you have to use your own pick in the supplemental draft? Throw the 3rd we got from the Patriots out there, and see what happens with the Wilson injury.
I wouldn't expect much out of a 6th round flyer Z.
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Zombo said:
I think you are forgetting about "Carrie" as opposed to "Currie"
Ward and Carrie are the starters, then Gaines, then Mitchell and BBC.
Simeon Thomas is a press corner just drafted in the 6th round that'll get a good look too.
Justin Currie is a special teamer who will be in the fight a fourth safety spot with Derron Smith ... Behind Peppers, Randall and Kindred
Z
Wonder if you have to use your own pick in the supplemental draft? Throw the 3rd we got from the Patriots out there, and see what happens with the Wilson injury.
I wouldn't expect much out of a 6th round flyer Z.
Wonder if you have to use your own pick in the supplemental draft? Throw the 3rd we got from the Patriots out there, and see what happens with the Wilson injury.
I wouldn't expect much out of a 6th round flyer Z.
Well, he's our 6th corner.
The #4 pick overall is our starter.
Our other starter, Carrie, is under contract for four years at 8 million per year
Our third corner, EJ Gaines, was rated one of the top 15 corners in the league last year.
Our fourth corner Terrence Mitchell, is a Dorsey Boy who we signed to a three year contract and was getting reps with the #1s.
Our 5th corner is Briean Boddy Calhoun, a good little corner that everybody on here seems to love.
Then we drafted Thomas because he can play press.
So guys want to spend next year's third for a dude that won't see the field this year behind the top 4? So we can cut Calhoun?
Don't see it.
Zombo
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Wonder if you have to use your own pick in the supplemental draft? Throw the 3rd we got from the Patriots out there, and see what happens with the Wilson injury.
I wouldn't expect much out of a 6th round flyer Z.
Well, he's our 6th corner.
The #4 pick overall is our starter.
Our other starter, Carrie, is under contract for four years at 8 million per year
Our third corner, EJ Gaines, was rated one of the top 15 corners in the league last year.
Our fourth corner Terrence Mitchell, is a Dorsey Boy who we signed to a three year contract and was getting reps with the #1s.
Our 5th corner is Briean Boddy Calhoun, a good little corner that everybody on here seems to love.
Then we drafted Thomas because he can play press.
So guys want to spend next year's third for a dude that won't see the field this year behind the top 4? So we can cut Calhoun?
Don't see it.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Well, he's our 6th corner.
The #4 pick overall is our starter.
Our other starter, Carrie, is under contract for four years at 8 million per year
Our third corner, EJ Gaines, was rated one of the top 15 corners in the league last year.
Our fourth corner Terrence Mitchell, is a Dorsey Boy who we signed to a three year contract and was getting reps with the #1s.
Our 5th corner is Briean Boddy Calhoun, a good little corner that everybody on here seems to love.
Then we drafted Thomas because he can play press.
So guys want to spend next year's third for a dude that won't see the field this year behind the top 4? So we can cut Calhoun?
Don't see it.
Zombo
Not saying we should Z. Just saying he's worth a low 3rd round pick. Sure, the defensive backfield looks a lot better "on paper" but that doesn't mean much this time of year.
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PFF analyzes Browns secondary - from 4/5, before the draft.
Not sure the final role of Mitchell. He has the honor of being the NFL's worst in yards allowed per coverage snap last season.
Positive detail about Peppers -- graded as the 25th best safety in coverage over the final 7 wks of 2017.
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If we want him, we will need to bid a 2nd rounder.
Nobody is going to bid a 1st rounder, and somebody is going to bid a 2nd rounder.
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If this guy is as good as many say, I have no issue with a 2nd round pick. You simply cannot have too many DB's, and the longer we cover, the more havoc Mr. Garrett can create. Gregg Williams had an interesting quote recently, and while I don't remember EXACTLY what he said, he basically inferred that Garrett was a step away from about 10 more sacks last year, and if we could've covered just a BIT better, there's no telling the impact. Now, I'm sure every pass rusher has about 30 instances where they were "one step away", but I agree with him. We need to cover better, and I think we will.
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If the powers that be in this FO think he is worth a 2d rounder.....who am I to object to their assessment?
So....what IS the scouting report on this guy? Would he be worth it....in the collective opinion?
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