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  • W Westside Steve

    @texasag1969 said:

    Public humiliation of the leaders in our allied countries isn't renegotiation. It's just plain stupid and makes our president out to be the Ugly American, which he is. And now Wall Street is beginning to see it for what it is so down goes the market and the American economy with it. Wrecking ball is not the end all - be all approach to everything. Harley is just the start.

    Horsesht.  Nobody has humiliated anybody. If the Barnacles on The Good Ship USA are going to whine I have no problem with giving them a taste of their own medicine instead of just kissing their butts

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Horsesht.  Nobody has humiliated anybody. If the Barnacles on The Good Ship USA are going to whine I have no problem with giving them a taste of their own medicine instead of just kissing their butts

    WSS

    So wrecking ball it is then.

    EDIT: And you know the problem with wrecking balls is that they also come back in your direction once they get through the target.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @westside-steve said:

    Horsesht.  Nobody has humiliated anybody. If the Barnacles on The Good Ship USA are going to whine I have no problem with giving them a taste of their own medicine instead of just kissing their butts

    WSS

    So wrecking ball it is then.

    EDIT: And you know the problem with wrecking balls is that they also come back in your direction once they get through the target.

    @texasag1969 said:

    So wrecking ball it is then.

    EDIT: And you know the problem with wrecking balls is that they also come back in your direction once they get through the target.

    Sir you're getting hysterical.

    WSS

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  • So here's a question since you guys are all worried about a trade War. How about we make a deal and completely eliminate our tariffs on imported automobiles if the Europeans do likewise? You think that will happen? Would you approve of that? And if not why? 

    Another question do you think we would be better off if we use nothing but cheap Chinese Steel?

    WSS

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  • The sky is falling!  They been saying that since the great President was elected, when in fact everything is doing better, except their mental state.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • https://www.thebalance.com/trade-deficit-by-county-3306264

    1. China - $636 billion traded with a $375 billion deficit.
    2. Canada - $582 billion traded with an $18 billion deficit.
    3. Mexico - $557 billion traded with a $71 billion deficit.
    4. Japan - $204 billion traded with a $69 billion deficit.
    5. Germany - $171 billion traded with a $65 billion deficit.

    How/who did all these one-sided deals? Of course some of our allies want to keep their gravy train rolling,

    we are their train - their advantage.

    Time for that to end, at least make it CLOSE to fair.

  • C calfoxwc

    https://www.thebalance.com/trade-deficit-by-county-3306264

    1. China - $636 billion traded with a $375 billion deficit.
    2. Canada - $582 billion traded with an $18 billion deficit.
    3. Mexico - $557 billion traded with a $71 billion deficit.
    4. Japan - $204 billion traded with a $69 billion deficit.
    5. Germany - $171 billion traded with a $65 billion deficit.

    How/who did all these one-sided deals? Of course some of our allies want to keep their gravy train rolling,

    we are their train - their advantage.

    Time for that to end, at least make it CLOSE to fair.

    @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.thebalance.com/trade-deficit-by-county-3306264

    1. China - $636 billion traded with a $375 billion deficit.
    2. Canada - $582 billion traded with an $18 billion deficit.
    3. Mexico - $557 billion traded with a $71 billion deficit.
    4. Japan - $204 billion traded with a $69 billion deficit.
    5. Germany - $171 billion traded with a $65 billion deficit.

    How/who did all these one-sided deals? Of course some of our allies want to keep their gravy train rolling,

    we are their train - their advantage.

    Time for that to end, at least make it CLOSE to fair.

    BINGO!

    When you consistently have one country buying more from other countries, guess who holds the leverage? 

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney

  • I have no problem with re-negotiating trade with any of these countries. It's the public bashing of our alliances in the process I think needs changing. What you do in a  negotiating room is one thing, but what you do to permanently damage long term alliances with democracies and their leaders is another. Especially in light of the grandstanding with NK as if some "deal" of substance and importance had actually been made when in fact he gave away the store for toilet paper. Why does he constantly kiss up to the tyrants of the world and demean elected leaders?

  • http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/jun/11/context-what-justin-trudeau-said-made-donald-trump/

    It's not really like Trump called Trudeau a cork Soaker.

    WSS

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  • Edit

    And from the BBC. The actual state-run media most definitely and expectedly slanted toward Europe. Doesn't seem that outrageous that we should ask them to tip in a little bit more to live under the umbrella of the US Military.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44434558

    WSS

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  • sigh, none of u understand how monetary policy is reflected in those deficits. we've been doing this since we came off the gold standard. those countries have been soaking up our debt in order to prop up our fiat currency. 

  • Tariffs are just not a good idea.....well before Trump hopped on board.  They are very counter productive in every way.  

    “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”

  • tariffs, if done right...are "ok". sometimes you have to protect ur countries jobs from cheap, low wage countries that flood ur markets just to drive ur companies out of business. theres an art to this when dealing wirh hundreds of billions of dollars wirth of goods and services that is beyond any of our limits of understanding.

  • what i fault trump for is picking this fight with every trading partner therefore losing a substantial amt of leverage. china knows now we cant dump certain goods with other trading partners cause we're at war with them too. so china can sit back and watch portions if our economy suffer and the internal pressure to capitulate on us will build. 

    ohio soy is going to get smashed by this trade war. 

  • There is far more to the story -

    https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-will-offer-donald-trump-a-bigger-slice-of-its-beef-market-to-avoid-trade-war-tariffs/

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2018/jun/09/milk-canada-us-trade-war

        EVEN upchuck schumer agrees on Canada and their self-serving overprotection of their dairy farmers:

    "Representing a state suffering especially hard from farm failures and suicides, the US Senate minority leader, Chuck Schumer, recently echoed his Republican president in blaming Canada for the debacle. “Canada, when it comes to dairy, acts like China when it comes to trade,” Schumer told hard-pressed farmers in upstate New York. “They’re unfair. They put up barriers. They treat us bad.”

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