Elf come back?

[mjp28]

@dutch-oven said:

What's everyone's thoughts on the Dawg Pound and dawg-related logos for the Browns?

Ingrained now into Browns lore or something that is dated and needs to be moved on from? 

I guess part of it is when you became a BROWNS fan or maybe if you're like me and some of the original players you never liked the elf, brownie, whatever it is.

The BROWNS never really had a true logo and latched on to the dawgs, dogs, whatever with the exciting successful teams in the 1980s.

So what is the answer? Depends on who you ask. 

[The Gipper]

@lbc-mike said:

It's the other teams and fans look at it as a cartoon elf.  

And the Patriots have a cartoon guy for a logo, the Minuteman.   The logo...and how scary it is don't matter.  It is how the team performs that matters.

[hoorta]

@the-gipper said:

And the Patriots have a cartoon guy for a logo, the Minuteman.   The logo...and how scary it is don't matter.  It is how the team performs that matters.

Yeah, besides the previously mentioned non-scary Cardinal, we have-  a Raven (garbage bird), Packers (do they even have a mascot? Meat packer guy. Texans ? I guess there were a lot of cows in Texas at one time.  Chargers? Whats a charger? Something you plug into a wall to juice up your cellphone?  Saints? - totally non-scary. And lastly the Jets. Just don't be on the runway when one takes off or lands....   

[LBC mike]

Okay.  Gay west Hollywood elf stays

[Dutch Oven]

@the-gipper said:

And the Patriots have a cartoon guy for a logo, the Minuteman.   The logo...and how scary it is don't matter.  It is how the team performs that matters.

The old-school Pat the Patriot logo was awesome. 

[Canton Mike]

@dutch-oven said:

The old-school Pat the Patriot logo was awesome. 

Did they have that logo when Babe Parilli played QB for them in the '60s?

Mike

[Dutch Oven]

@canton-mike said:

Did they have that logo when Babe Parilli played QB for them in the '60s?

Mike

Yes sir. 

[Dutch Oven]

I'll admit I'm a sports uniform nerd, but it always bothered me that the "Patriots" wore red jerseys. 

The American "Patriots" fought the English redcoats. Why they chose red for their jerseys instead of navy blue is beyond me. 

[The Gipper]

@dutch-oven said:

I'll admit I'm a sports uniform nerd, but it always bothered me that the "Patriots" wore red jerseys. 

The American "Patriots" fought the English redcoats. Why they chose red for their jerseys instead of navy blue is beyond me. 

Well they do now I guess

[mjp28]

@dutch-oven said:

Yes sir. 

The old Boston Patriots, I was surprised when they changed to the New England Metro Patriots. 

A kid in my neighborhood was an early AFL fan we loyal BROWNIES thought he was nuts......he turned out to be ahead of all of us. A pirates fan too, I got to see the great Roberto Clemente because of him.

[TexasAg1969]

I would  like to see these elfs on the sidelines. ?

 

[FairHooker11]

@ghoolie said:

Hate the Dawg shid. Has nothing to do with the Browns.

but it did the fans 

bring back the batteries rocks &  bottles too

[Flugel]

@ghoolie said:

Hate the Dawg shid. Has nothing to do with the Browns.

Believe it or not, I feel the same way.    Knowing that started with 2 Corners that could cover WRs at a Pro Bowl level in spite of an inconsistent pass rush - it didn't feel suitable at all with the secondary that contested nobody during 1-31 football.

They need to earn an identity, which has prolly already been said more than once....

[The Gipper]

@flugel said:

Believe it or not, I feel the same way.    Knowing that started with 2 Corners that could cover WRs at a Pro Bowl level in spite of an inconsistent pass rush - it didn't feel suitable at all with the secondary that contested nobody during 1-31 football.

They need to earn an identity, which has prolly already been said more than once....

I came up with the name called the goons but that didn’t really go overI came up with the name called the goons but that didn’t really go over

[Tour2ma]

Zombo said:

So the "angry Elf" is back! Sweet....

As for the "Dawg Pound"... that was a Muni Bleachers thing. It never really translated well to "Browns' Stadium"... but then neither did the team.

It's up to the team to breath life back into the Pound.

[StinkHole]

@the-gipper said:

And the Patriots have a cartoon guy for a logo, the Minuteman.   The logo...and how scary it is don't matter.  It is how the team performs that matters.

Look up the definition of cartoon.

That's not a cartoon logo.  The Pats logo isn't meant to instill fear, but rather designed to command respect.

Your elf would do neither.

But hey why not.  The other Cleveland teams logo, Chief Wahoo, does neither as well.

[Orion]

@stinkhole said:

The Pats logo isn't meant to instill fear, but rather designed to command respect.

What?  The flying Elvis?

[Dutch Oven]

@stinkhole said:

Look up the definition of cartoon.

That's not a cartoon logo.  The Pats logo isn't meant to instill fear, but rather designed to command respect.

Your elf would do neither.

But hey why not.  The other Cleveland teams logo, Chief Wahoo, does neither as well.

Speaking of pansy logos, how about that badass penguin on skates? 

Now THAT makes a grown man tremble with fear and respect. ?

[Browns149]

I’d rather have Chief Wahoo then an elf. 

[The Gipper]

@stinkhole said:

Look up the definition of cartoon.

That's not a cartoon logo.  The Pats logo isn't meant to instill fear, but rather designed to command respect.

Your elf would do neither.

But hey why not.  The other Cleveland teams logo, Chief Wahoo, does neither as well.

If these are not cartoons...what are they? 

And if you think that either of these Pats logos instill fear or respect than the Brownie....you are one gullible human being.

Besides, I don't think that these logos are meant to do either.  There is NO logo that would ever instill fear in another team's players....nor any respect. They get that from the way they play on the field.   These logos are nothing more than marketing tools....to sell parphenalia and crap, and that is all.  If you don't know that, then you are a tool.