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manafort trial - a big farce so far - judge very unhappy with mueller team nonsense

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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    yeah..."he wears really expensive clothes" ...and "he might have made mistakes on his income taxes".


    Judge Loses Patience with Mueller Team; Ends Court Early...

    'Prosecute somebody because they wear nice clothes?'

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
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      Witch hunt.☕

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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        Hear it all comes down to the bookkeeper.  If they don't get a conviction here it probably blows the entire probe up.

        “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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          thats funny cause i just heard like 30 mins ago that the prosecution may wrap in a week. And the people who worked for manafort that got immunity are singing. 

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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            " the U.S. district judge called out attorneys for both sides this week when he heard they'd been rolling their eyes, apparently at him"

            lols

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              T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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              Trumpettes live in a dream world.

              Oh and Manafort's accountant who admits she wrote a false letter at his instruction to get a multimillion dollar loan from a bank and falsified tax returns..

              This is where the rubber meets the road.

              https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/nation-world/paul-manaforts-accountant-says-she-helped-falsify-tax-returns/507-580312314https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/nation-world/paul-manaforts-accountant-says-she-helped-falsify-tax-returns/507-580312314 

              https://www.thedailybeast.com/accountant-says-she-helped-paul-manafort-cook-his-books?source=articles&via=rss&yptr=yahoo

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                T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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                Meanwhile back in the other Russian connection. 

                https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/08/did-alleged-russian-spy-maria-butina-cause-a-leadership-shake-up-at-the-nra-1/

                NRA leadership would make great trumpettes, totally gullible. Right to bear arms group in Russia? Please!

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                  Meanwhile back in the other Russian connection. 

                  https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/08/did-alleged-russian-spy-maria-butina-cause-a-leadership-shake-up-at-the-nra-1/

                  NRA leadership would make great trumpettes, totally gullible. Right to bear arms group in Russia? Please!

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  @texasag1969 said:

                  Meanwhile back in the other Russian connection. 

                  https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/08/did-alleged-russian-spy-maria-butina-cause-a-leadership-shake-up-at-the-nra-1/

                  NRA leadership would make great trumpettes, totally gullible. Right to bear arms group in Russia? Please!

                  i loathe the NRA because of the partisan hacks who staff it. That being said, this potential debacle with them has a real chance of affecting gun ownership overall. This is why ive wishing for years now some other STRICTLY non partisan gun advocacy group with rational people running it, would step forward. People who gave the basic intelligence to see how guns manufactured at home by equipment thst isnt NFA'D is a direct work around to existing gun laws. Gun laws the NRA insists they've always been advocates of

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                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                    These charges against Manafort have nothing to do with Trump's alleged collusion with Russia. This is just an over zealous prosecution of a 12 year old case (a case that prosecutors had years earlier decided not to prosecute over) in an effort to get Manafort to flip on Trump. Manafort is being scapegoated and his real crime was being a part of the Trump campaign for a few months. Even the judge in the case told the Mueller prosecutors that they were not fooling anyone with the prosecution of Manafort as being anything other than trying to use him to get Trump.

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                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                      falsifying tax documents to hide who ur doing business with is a nuthinburger eh?

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                        falsifying tax documents to hide who ur doing business with is a nuthinburger eh?

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                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        @clevfan4life said:

                        falsifying tax documents to hide who ur doing business with is a nuthinburger eh?

                        Apparently to prosecutors 12 years ago it was a nothingburger because they decided at that time not to prosecute. Now it is a something burger 12 years later?

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                          @clevfan4life said:

                          falsifying tax documents to hide who ur doing business with is a nuthinburger eh?

                          Apparently to prosecutors 12 years ago it was a nothingburger because they decided at that time not to prosecute. Now it is a something burger 12 years later?

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                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                          Apparently to prosecutors 12 years ago it was a nothingburger because they decided at that time not to prosecute. Now it is a something burger 12 years later?

                          because they're laying out their case for his longterm association with certain people.......srsly obf?

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                            @oldbrownsfan said:

                            Apparently to prosecutors 12 years ago it was a nothingburger because they decided at that time not to prosecute. Now it is a something burger 12 years later?

                            because they're laying out their case for his longterm association with certain people.......srsly obf?

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                            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            because they're laying out their case for his longterm association with certain people.......srsly obf?

                            For 12 years? Manafort's real crime was being campaign manager for Trump for a few months. Now he is being used to go after Trump. If he had never taken the position as Trump's campaign manager he would never have been facing this prosecution today.

                            We saw the same heavy handedness from Mueller with Gen. Flynn whom the FBI originally had concluded he did not intentionally lie and was not going to prosecute until Mueller stepped in. In the same way it was just putting the screws on Flynn to go after Trump. Flynn's real crime was being part of the Trump administration for a short period of time.

                            https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/manafort-to-appear-in-virginia-court-in-bid-to-have-fraud-charges-dismissed/2018/05/03/c3b0acb0-4ca2-11e8-b725-92c89fe3ca4c_story.html?utm_term=.d5e24e22cc8a

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                              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                              i dont know the exact specifics of the xase, and ur prob right his sht might have gone unnoticed if not for him working on the campaign of THE FUKKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

                              someone with ties like that close to the president has to be investigated. All there is to it

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                                @oldbrownsfan said:

                                Apparently to prosecutors 12 years ago it was a nothingburger because they decided at that time not to prosecute. Now it is a something burger 12 years later?

                                because they're laying out their case for his longterm association with certain people.......srsly obf?

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                                F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                because they're laying out their case for his longterm association with certain people.......srsly obf?

                                to which the good Judge said "When prosecutors addressed Manafort's relationship with Ukrainian "oligarchs," he told them to knock it off. Prosecutors are inferring that Manafort associates himself with "despicable people and therefore he's despicable," he said. "That's not the American way."

                                hehe.....

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                                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                  and those ukrainian oligarchs have serious ties to putin. When all this came out about manafort u all threw him under the bus and said that pos has nothing to do with trump he was just trumps coffee fetch blah blah blah

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                                    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      Trump should fire them all and declare Martial Law.  Something sinister going on here.

                                      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                        T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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                                        Ah conspiracy theories abound. This has nothing at all to do with offshore secret accounts in which he hid millions of dollars and did not report it as income. i mean don't we all have accounts like that?

                                        This is really what is going on.............attacks on Mueller are reaching fever pitch because Trump and his cronies know that Mueller is likely to submit his report before the end of this month and it will not be pretty. They will use every dirty trick every lie and every conspiracy theory too reduce the heat on themselves. It's called guilty as sin.

                                        http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/400237-obstruction-of-justice-bombshell-will-explode-before-midterms

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                                          F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                                          oh no more "obstruction" 

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