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  • The coach 100% matters. How was your one year with Luke Fickell? Or us with Hoke?

    An elite coach might make more of a difference in the MAC or something, but they still matter even at powerhouse schools. It's just that the floor is higher.

    @mld-woody said:

    The coach 100% matters. How was your one year with Luke Fickell? Or us with Hoke?

    An elite coach might make more of a difference in the MAC or something, but they still matter even at powerhouse schools. It's just that the floor is higher.

    Fickell was 6-7 in his one and done season at OSU first coach with a losing record since 1897 but do remember no matter what big schools generally bury the cupcakes and play the rest. Fickell was 4-8 at cincinnati.

  • I've seen enough OSU fans go on anti media, victim shaming rants. I won't get into anything here. I'll just sit back and see how it all plays out. 

  • I've seen enough OSU fans go on anti media, victim shaming rants. I won't get into anything here. I'll just sit back and see how it all plays out. 

    @mld-woody said:

    I've seen enough OSU fans go on anti media, victim shaming rants. I won't get into anything here. I'll just sit back and see how it all plays out. 

    This is not a victim shaming rant that I posted above.   I am simply giving you REAL life experiences on this subject that occasionally occur.  If we want an expert opinion on contemplating one's navel...we will ask you.  But the legal arena is my domain, and has been for longer than you have been alive.    And I have seen an awful lot...including false allegations of domestic abuse.  I am not saying that this applies here........I am ONLY saying that a multitude of visits to that home with no arrest is a very, very strong indicator.   Talk to any cop about it if you don't believe me. I will be glad to put you in touch with a couple of Police Chiefs I know and have associations with. 

    But, as I said, what this IS all about is simply a PR  fuyuck up.  Like I said, Meyer should have simply declined to answer any questions about that subject because of potentially on going legal consequences. .....and NO ONE would have thought twice about it. 

    Fair to say?

    I mean....really the one thing to question him over was his ability to think on his feet at that question. I hope he thinks better on his feet in the future when he is coaching.

  • " Like I said, Meyer should have simply declined to answer any questions about that subject because of potentially on going legal consequences "

    But he did answer, and he did lie.

    Mary Jo White doesn't play.... I'll wait for her work to end..

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    " Like I said, Meyer should have simply declined to answer any questions about that subject because of potentially on going legal consequences "

    But he did answer, and he did lie.

    Mary Jo White doesn't play.... I'll wait for her work to end..

    @axe said:

    " Like I said, Meyer should have simply declined to answer any questions about that subject because of potentially on going legal consequences "

    But he did answer, and he did lie.

    Mary Jo White doesn't play.... I'll wait for her work to end..

    Yes, he lied....but like I said, it is nothing more than a PR gaffe......meaning it is really nothing at all in substance.   

    And who is Mary Jo White?

  • Ex SEC head..She is leading the investigation. She has done so in 3 or 4 NFL investigations. Ray Rice and the Panther's ex owner Jerry Richardson come to mind..  It's never good news for the principle of the investigation when she is involved it seems..

  • urban will get off with a one game suspension just to appease the ncaa 

  • That rally today was a great look for OSU ..

  • Nothing will happen to him.  It's great to see the support he has at Ohio State.

  • Nothing will happen to him.  It's great to see the support he has at Ohio State.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Nothing will happen to him.  It's great to see the support he has at Ohio State.

    Well, he should actually have something happen to him:   he should be required to take the "Shut the Fuyuck Up when talking to the media if they ask questions about an ongoing legal investigation"  seminar.

    He should just have said:  "We are on to Cincinnati"  (or, in this case, Oregon State)

  • I only have 2 glaring questions that need to be asked.

    1) Why did Courtney Smith drop charges against Zach back in 2015? I mean she IS playing the victim now.

    2) Why did this wait until until the dawn of the college football season to surface? 

    Can anyone enlighten me?

  • So "he only lied to the media" is going to be the new "they were only selling trinkets".  Cool.

  • 4.5 game suspension is the over/under number...  If Mary Jo says "wait, we're not done yet" at the end of 14 days then you can pretty much figure your boy Urban is  phuckened..

  • http://smokeroom.com/2018/08/08/ohio-state-football-zach-smith-contract-details/

    Hmmm, why do you suppose he got such a paltry raise after the 2015 season?

  • So "he only lied to the media" is going to be the new "they were only selling trinkets".  Cool.

    @mld-woody said:

    So "he only lied to the media" is going to be the new "they were only selling trinkets".  Cool.

    I don't know if you are being obtuse, or just demonstrating your ignorance.  Either way it is not unexpected or surprising.

    But to enlighten you:   One:  the selling of the trinkets was/is a violation of NCAA rules....as is lying to the NCAA investigators.

    The other : lying to the media is violative of nothing, nowhere (10-12 lies per day coming out of you know where these days). 

    Certainly it should not have been....but all that it is or ever was is a PR gaffe.

    So...now you have been informed and can no longer plead ignorance.  Your level of obtuseness however, I don't know if I can cure that.

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    4.5 game suspension is the over/under number...  If Mary Jo says "wait, we're not done yet" at the end of 14 days then you can pretty much figure your boy Urban is  phuckened..

    @axe said:

    4.5 game suspension is the over/under number...  If Mary Jo says "wait, we're not done yet" at the end of 14 days then you can pretty much figure your boy Urban is  phuckened..

    For what reason?  Because he made a PR error?   If so then why would Nick Saban be keeping his job...or any other coach in this country. 

    Or, are you saying that he was obligated to take steps that the police and prosecutors refused to do?

    To paraphras Sherlock Holmes:  "He was not retained by the police to supply their deficiencies".

  • No, I'm saying that's the Vegas line. 4.5 games.. 😉

  • AxeA Axe

    No, I'm saying that's the Vegas line. 4.5 games.. 😉

    @axe said:

    No, I'm saying that's the Vegas line. 4.5 games.. 😉

    OK.  Still.....4.5 games for what?   Making a PR gaffe?   Because that is what this comes down to. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    So "he only lied to the media" is going to be the new "they were only selling trinkets".  Cool.

    I don't know if you are being obtuse, or just demonstrating your ignorance.  Either way it is not unexpected or surprising.

    But to enlighten you:   One:  the selling of the trinkets was/is a violation of NCAA rules....as is lying to the NCAA investigators.

    The other : lying to the media is violative of nothing, nowhere (10-12 lies per day coming out of you know where these days). 

    Certainly it should not have been....but all that it is or ever was is a PR gaffe.

    So...now you have been informed and can no longer plead ignorance.  Your level of obtuseness however, I don't know if I can cure that.

    @the-gipper said:

    I don't know if you are being obtuse, or just demonstrating your ignorance.  Either way it is not unexpected or surprising.

    But to enlighten you:   One:  the selling of the trinkets was/is a violation of NCAA rules....as is lying to the NCAA investigators.

    The other : lying to the media is violative of nothing, nowhere (10-12 lies per day coming out of you know where these days). 

    Certainly it should not have been....but all that it is or ever was is a PR gaffe.

    So...now you have been informed and can no longer plead ignorance.  Your level of obtuseness however, I don't know if I can cure that.

    No, you don't follow what I was getting at. 

    That's ok though, it's partially the point I was making. 

  • So "he only lied to the media" is going to be the new "they were only selling trinkets".  Cool.

    @mld-woody said:

    So "he only lied to the media" is going to be the new "they were only selling trinkets".  Cool.

    Oh that was that stupid puny little minor bullsh*t crime of the century, the:

    "Tats for brats and trinkets for cash" almost as bad as Watergate or Iran contra. Yes guys were getting cheap tattoos for autographs and selling gold pants pins for a few hundred bucks (how ironic, bucks).

    It's always the storytelling and cover ups that get you! But the BUCKEYES made out alright with The Urban Renewal Project......so far.

    GO BUCKEYES, #1 baby!