OUR "Hard Knocks" Thread
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A few random musings from the most recent episode. I can’t seem to help myself from watching them twice.
I’m really liking Todd Haley. This sentiment has been said by others, so l guess l’m just echoing that, but man he seems like a real genuine dude with an even keeled and confident approach to dealing with everyone in the building and on the field.
That is the oldest l have ever seen Jim Brown look. I know he’s old and all, but he looks like he’s aged 10 years since last year.
There’s something about Tyrod Taylor’s communication style that l really like. He strikes me as one of those guys who speaks only when he needs to, and therfore commands attention when he actually does. A quiet confidence kind of thing.
There was a random scene where his dad showed up and he signed a football for him, glanced over his shoulder and waved, and over walks Baker. He beckoned a #1 pick without uttering a word.
Is it me or does Baker sound like he makes Waterboy-esque squeals when he makes a TD throw?
A few random musings from the most recent episode.
- I’m really liking Todd Haley. This sentiment has been said by others, so l guess l’m just echoing that, but man he seems like a real genuine dude with an even keeled and confident approach to dealing with everyone in the building and on the field.
- That is the oldest l have ever seen Jim Brown look. I know he’s old and all, but he looks like he’s aged 10 years since last year.
- There’s something about Tyrod Taylor’s communication style that l really like. He strikes me as one of those guys who speaks only when he needs to, and therfore commands attention when he actually does. A quiet confidence kind of thing. There was a random scene where his dad showed up and he signed a football for him, glanced over his shoulder and waved, and over walks Baker. He beckoned a #1 pick without uttering a word.
- Agree on Haley... he noticed Calloway was withdrawn and was practically begging for him to unburden himself.
- Agree... but his laugh hasn't changed. Baker looked humbled to interact with "the man"... which was cool in and of itself.
- Agree... TT looks secure and totally comfortable in his skin. And you can easily envision him moving to coaching when his playing days are done. He just may hold off Baker longer than I thought.
On the Calloway meeting with the brass...
- I was shocked they did not jump with hard for failing to report the stop. That was as egregious as the stop... maybe moreso.
- And of all the things under Cal's control driving with a suspended F-ing license tops the list. Better to have emphasized this than essentially suggesting he vacuum his car after loaning it to "friends".
- What ultimately irritated me tho was the makeup of the meeting. Never in my years of working did a direct report have a "counseling session" where I was not present. Both his position coach and OC should have been there.
As for his "punishment"... loved when after his long TD catch'n'run Haley told him, "You're still in!" lol...
Way to gut it out, kid. I'm pulling for ya!
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What's cool is that Myles seems to have developed new moves... primary and 2ndary. He looks dangerous.
He's been working a lot with Bruce Smith and Willie Mcginist has been giving him pointers on coming off the spin moves with 2ndary moves. Ankles both seem healthy for the 1st time in two years and his quickness/speed seems to be back.
He's been working a lot with Bruce Smith and Willie Mcginist has been giving him pointers on coming off the spin moves with 2ndary moves. Ankles both seem healthy for the 1st time in two years and his quickness/speed seems to be back.
Gee thanks... I watched Ep 1, too...
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He's been working a lot with Bruce Smith and Willie Mcginist has been giving him pointers on coming off the spin moves with 2ndary moves. Ankles both seem healthy for the 1st time in two years and his quickness/speed seems to be back.
Gee thanks... I watched Ep 1, too...
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Just watched the second episode...
1. The conversation between Dorsey, Jackson and Callaway actually made me cringe. The Browns used a 4th rounder on a guy whose history should have made him a CFL invite, an incident happens right away and HUE JACKSON IS THE HAMMER while Dorsey basically was begging Callaway to not make him look like an idiot? Let me repeat - HUE JACKSON IS THE HAMMER in this scenario.
2. But because the Browns WR unit is now paper-thin, this "we just used a 4th rounder on Callaway if he flames out no big deal" is now super important to the Browns. How do I know? Because Haley basically begged Landry to play big brother to Callaway because he's that important. When your alleged #1 WR is as reliable as a 1982 Yugo in Josh Gordon, and another WR is a two-year disappointment in Corey Coleman, you are just playing with fire depending so much on someone like Callaway. And mark my words, because the franchise is so desperate to win, and he showed flashes, they'll put up with him when he inevitably Shmucks up again.
3. How do I know he will Shmuck up again? This might not be fair to say just off of what we can see in Hard Knocks, but Callaway is an immature follower. Has anyone seen anything from him that says: "This is a man who will put his career and the team before anything else"? That being said, he seems honestly like a good kid. Not a diva at all. But a follower. A guy who can easily find himself taken advantage of, or taking the easy way out of situations. Not a guy who would ever say "Shmuck anyone who gets in my way of being the best football player I can be".
4. I just don't see Hue as a Head Coach that the players respect. It's not because he's not a hard butt who yells and screams and gets in people's faces. That Sheet gets old quick. Its just that he doesn't have "it". He's not the guy that walks into the room and the players straighten up and take notice of. He's the type of coach that the team starts taking short cuts and gets lazy around as soon as they can. Hell, Hue even brought it up to them.
5. The more I see of Mayfield, the more I like him. Still not sure he's the guy I would have taken, but he IS someone people notice, someone people rally around.
6. I think the guy I'm most excited about this season is Njoku. If/when it all comes together for him, he could end up being a monster. Very mature, well-spoken for a young kid. The Myles Garrett part was interesting too. One minute he's writing poetry, next moment he's going to rip off Greg Robinson's head.
7. Been mentioned multiple times but kind of hard to root against Devon Cajuste. Nice story between him and his father, you can see why Devon seems so well-liked by his teammates. Even if the NFL doesn't work out for the kid, you can tell he's going to be alright. Good head on his shoulders.
8. Kind of surprised how little Denzel Ward is even mentioned. He was the #4 overall pick, and in two episodes the only time you really see him is when it appears he's not paying attention.
9. Hue is right, all the talent in the world doesn't mean jack if the player doesn't do the work and isn't responsible. That being said, man, there is some talent on this roster now. I just have my doubts that Hue is the guy who makes it bloom.
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Just watched the second episode...
1. The conversation between Dorsey, Jackson and Callaway actually made me cringe. The Browns used a 4th rounder on a guy whose history should have made him a CFL invite, an incident happens right away and HUE JACKSON IS THE HAMMER while Dorsey basically was begging Callaway to not make him look like an idiot? Let me repeat - HUE JACKSON IS THE HAMMER in this scenario.
2. But because the Browns WR unit is now paper-thin, this "we just used a 4th rounder on Callaway if he flames out no big deal" is now super important to the Browns. How do I know? Because Haley basically begged Landry to play big brother to Callaway because he's that important. When your alleged #1 WR is as reliable as a 1982 Yugo in Josh Gordon, and another WR is a two-year disappointment in Corey Coleman, you are just playing with fire depending so much on someone like Callaway. And mark my words, because the franchise is so desperate to win, and he showed flashes, they'll put up with him when he inevitably Shmucks up again.
3. How do I know he will Shmuck up again? This might not be fair to say just off of what we can see in Hard Knocks, but Callaway is an immature follower. Has anyone seen anything from him that says: "This is a man who will put his career and the team before anything else"? That being said, he seems honestly like a good kid. Not a diva at all. But a follower. A guy who can easily find himself taken advantage of, or taking the easy way out of situations. Not a guy who would ever say "Shmuck anyone who gets in my way of being the best football player I can be".
4. I just don't see Hue as a Head Coach that the players respect. It's not because he's not a hard butt who yells and screams and gets in people's faces. That Sheet gets old quick. Its just that he doesn't have "it". He's not the guy that walks into the room and the players straighten up and take notice of. He's the type of coach that the team starts taking short cuts and gets lazy around as soon as they can. Hell, Hue even brought it up to them.
5. The more I see of Mayfield, the more I like him. Still not sure he's the guy I would have taken, but he IS someone people notice, someone people rally around.
6. I think the guy I'm most excited about this season is Njoku. If/when it all comes together for him, he could end up being a monster. Very mature, well-spoken for a young kid. The Myles Garrett part was interesting too. One minute he's writing poetry, next moment he's going to rip off Greg Robinson's head.
7. Been mentioned multiple times but kind of hard to root against Devon Cajuste. Nice story between him and his father, you can see why Devon seems so well-liked by his teammates. Even if the NFL doesn't work out for the kid, you can tell he's going to be alright. Good head on his shoulders.
8. Kind of surprised how little Denzel Ward is even mentioned. He was the #4 overall pick, and in two episodes the only time you really see him is when it appears he's not paying attention.
9. Hue is right, all the talent in the world doesn't mean jack if the player doesn't do the work and isn't responsible. That being said, man, there is some talent on this roster now. I just have my doubts that Hue is the guy who makes it bloom.
6. I think the guy I'm most excited about this season is Njoku. If/when it all comes together for him, he could end up being a monster.
That was a nice segment on him...
What a physical specimen... and his head seems to be getting there, too.
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those new moves myles got is gonna get him a nasty bullrush too. I liked the clip where he juked a pass rush move but then turned it straight upfield and caught robinsons p'ussy flat on its heels. Dude knew he got xaught and gave myles a shove for it, i hope that was staged for the cameras cause every d line on our schedule just checked which side #72 gonna be on.
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Just watched the second episode...
1. The conversation between Dorsey, Jackson and Callaway actually made me cringe. The Browns used a 4th rounder on a guy whose history should have made him a CFL invite, an incident happens right away and HUE JACKSON IS THE HAMMER while Dorsey basically was begging Callaway to not make him look like an idiot? Let me repeat - HUE JACKSON IS THE HAMMER in this scenario.
2. But because the Browns WR unit is now paper-thin, this "we just used a 4th rounder on Callaway if he flames out no big deal" is now super important to the Browns. How do I know? Because Haley basically begged Landry to play big brother to Callaway because he's that important. When your alleged #1 WR is as reliable as a 1982 Yugo in Josh Gordon, and another WR is a two-year disappointment in Corey Coleman, you are just playing with fire depending so much on someone like Callaway. And mark my words, because the franchise is so desperate to win, and he showed flashes, they'll put up with him when he inevitably Shmucks up again.
3. How do I know he will Shmuck up again? This might not be fair to say just off of what we can see in Hard Knocks, but Callaway is an immature follower. Has anyone seen anything from him that says: "This is a man who will put his career and the team before anything else"? That being said, he seems honestly like a good kid. Not a diva at all. But a follower. A guy who can easily find himself taken advantage of, or taking the easy way out of situations. Not a guy who would ever say "Shmuck anyone who gets in my way of being the best football player I can be".
4. I just don't see Hue as a Head Coach that the players respect. It's not because he's not a hard butt who yells and screams and gets in people's faces. That Sheet gets old quick. Its just that he doesn't have "it". He's not the guy that walks into the room and the players straighten up and take notice of. He's the type of coach that the team starts taking short cuts and gets lazy around as soon as they can. Hell, Hue even brought it up to them.
5. The more I see of Mayfield, the more I like him. Still not sure he's the guy I would have taken, but he IS someone people notice, someone people rally around.
6. I think the guy I'm most excited about this season is Njoku. If/when it all comes together for him, he could end up being a monster. Very mature, well-spoken for a young kid. The Myles Garrett part was interesting too. One minute he's writing poetry, next moment he's going to rip off Greg Robinson's head.
7. Been mentioned multiple times but kind of hard to root against Devon Cajuste. Nice story between him and his father, you can see why Devon seems so well-liked by his teammates. Even if the NFL doesn't work out for the kid, you can tell he's going to be alright. Good head on his shoulders.
8. Kind of surprised how little Denzel Ward is even mentioned. He was the #4 overall pick, and in two episodes the only time you really see him is when it appears he's not paying attention.
9. Hue is right, all the talent in the world doesn't mean jack if the player doesn't do the work and isn't responsible. That being said, man, there is some talent on this roster now. I just have my doubts that Hue is the guy who makes it bloom.
8. Kind of surprised how little Denzel Ward is even mentioned. He was the #4 overall pick, and in two episodes the only time you really see him is when it appears he's not paying attention.
It's absolutely bewildering how invisible he is on the show right now.
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8. Kind of surprised how little Denzel Ward is even mentioned. He was the #4 overall pick, and in two episodes the only time you really see him is when it appears he's not paying attention.
It's absolutely bewildering how invisible he is on the show right now.
It's absolutely bewildering how invisible he is on the show right now.
The show normally follows several players through the trials and tribulations of cutting days. He has no worries. But at some point he will get featured I'm sure. I'm thinking Cajuste will be seen nearly every week as a "bubble" player who is giving everything to make this team. And I bet we see some followup this week with Coleman since ironically he is on our schedule tonight.
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Callaway looks and behaves like a school kid. You can tell he is immature and is probably easily led. There were a lot of cringe worthy moments in episode 2 but I think the worst was when hue made him stand up and apologise in front of his team mates. I dont think that was necessary anyway, another easy target for hue to try and exert his authority....but the way callaway stood there swinging his arms, and then a rather weak apology, and then hue just accepting it....yeah cringe worthy!!
I think the question is whether this kid has the strength of personality to stay on the straight path...I really hope he does because he is some athlete.
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Callaway looks and behaves like a school kid. You can tell he is immature and is probably easily led. There were a lot of cringe worthy moments in episode 2 but I think the worst was when hue made him stand up and apologise in front of his team mates. I dont think that was necessary anyway, another easy target for hue to try and exert his authority....but the way callaway stood there swinging his arms, and then a rather weak apology, and then hue just accepting it....yeah cringe worthy!!
I think the question is whether this kid has the strength of personality to stay on the straight path...I really hope he does because he is some athlete.
Callaway looks and behaves like a school kid. You can tell he is immature and is probably easily led. There were a lot of cringe worthy moments in episode 2 but I think the worst was when hue made him stand up and apologise in front of his team mates. I dont think that was necessary anyway, another easy target for hue to try and exert his authority....but the way callaway stood there swinging his arms, and then a rather weak apology, and then hue just accepting it....yeah cringe worthy!!
I think the question is whether this kid has the strength of personality to stay on the straight path...I really hope he does because he is some athlete.
Calloway is a big time introvert. I’m not sure l’ve ever seen a prodessional athlete as uncomfortable with public speaking or in front of a camara than he is. For him, that apology to the team was probably one of the most difficult things he was asked to do in camp. I bet he rehearsed that one sentence a thousand times in his mind beforehand.
It’s something that really interests me about him. Everyone likes recognition for what they are good at, and for a plus athlete that means stuff like interviews, public appearance, and commercials, and that stuff is waaay outside his comfort zone right now.
Most professional and plenty of college athletes get coaching on what to say in interviews and how to handle those limelight situations. If his career works out he will get better at these things, but right now it’s very evident he has a hard time with it.
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It's interesting to see how Callaway's scouting report is very true. Amazing talent but has made questionable decisions off it. However, everyone also said he was a good kid who just doesn't know any better. I think we are seeing that before our very eyes. Calloway seems like a kid who just doesn't know any better. He's a follower and not a leader, which is ok. Not everyone has to be the alpha dog. He doesn't run his mouth, seems to work hard and accepts coaching well. The team likes him but they see a 21 year old who is still very green to the real world. Haley said it best when he called him a puppy dog. Having Landry on this team is the best thing for Callaway's future. He can see what it takes to work hard, have that right attitude and how to stay out of trouble. I think I like him more now than before the episode, which is surprising to say.
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Callaway looks and behaves like a school kid. You can tell he is immature and is probably easily led. There were a lot of cringe worthy moments in episode 2 but I think the worst was when hue made him stand up and apologise in front of his team mates. I dont think that was necessary anyway, another easy target for hue to try and exert his authority....but the way callaway stood there swinging his arms, and then a rather weak apology, and then hue just accepting it....yeah cringe worthy!!
I think the question is whether this kid has the strength of personality to stay on the straight path...I really hope he does because he is some athlete.
Calloway is a big time introvert. I’m not sure l’ve ever seen a prodessional athlete as uncomfortable with public speaking or in front of a camara than he is. For him, that apology to the team was probably one of the most difficult things he was asked to do in camp. I bet he rehearsed that one sentence a thousand times in his mind beforehand.
It’s something that really interests me about him. Everyone likes recognition for what they are good at, and for a plus athlete that means stuff like interviews, public appearance, and commercials, and that stuff is waaay outside his comfort zone right now.
Most professional and plenty of college athletes get coaching on what to say in interviews and how to handle those limelight situations. If his career works out he will get better at these things, but right now it’s very evident he has a hard time with it.
Calloway is a big time introvert. I’m not sure l’ve ever seen a prodessional athlete as uncomfortable with public speaking or in front of a camara than he is. For him, that apology to the team was probably one of the most difficult things he was asked to do in camp. I bet he rehearsed that one sentence a thousand times in his mind beforehand.
It’s something that really interests me about him. Everyone likes recognition for what they are good at, and for a plus athlete that means stuff like interviews, public appearance, and commercials, and that stuff is waaay outside his comfort zone right now.
Most professional and plenty of college athletes get coaching on what to say in interviews and how to handle those limelight situations. If his career works out he will get better at these things, but right now it’s very evident he has a hard time with it.
Yes I can understand your perspective on him totally, public speaking is my biggest fear...I hate it with a passion. Plus he is very young too, so perhaps we(i) need to cut him some slack....but it does beg the question, why didn't hue go about it in a different way?
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Calloway is a big time introvert. I’m not sure l’ve ever seen a prodessional athlete as uncomfortable with public speaking or in front of a camara than he is. For him, that apology to the team was probably one of the most difficult things he was asked to do in camp. I bet he rehearsed that one sentence a thousand times in his mind beforehand.
It’s something that really interests me about him. Everyone likes recognition for what they are good at, and for a plus athlete that means stuff like interviews, public appearance, and commercials, and that stuff is waaay outside his comfort zone right now.
Most professional and plenty of college athletes get coaching on what to say in interviews and how to handle those limelight situations. If his career works out he will get better at these things, but right now it’s very evident he has a hard time with it.
Yes I can understand your perspective on him totally, public speaking is my biggest fear...I hate it with a passion. Plus he is very young too, so perhaps we(i) need to cut him some slack....but it does beg the question, why didn't hue go about it in a different way?
Yes I can understand your perspective on him totally, public speaking is my biggest fear...I hate it with a passion. Plus he is very young too, so perhaps we(i) need to cut him some slack....but it does beg the question, why didn't hue go about it in a different way?
I dunno. Possibly the same reason he went after his OC? The Hueball is just not HC material IMO. Proved that practically every game since he took over.
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I think that was one of the better coaching moments we were able to see from Hue so far. Being a players coach pays off in situations like that I think considering the wuss-fest that is the modern nfl but we will see.
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Calloway is a big time introvert. I’m not sure l’ve ever seen a prodessional athlete as uncomfortable with public speaking or in front of a camara than he is. For him, that apology to the team was probably one of the most difficult things he was asked to do in camp. I bet he rehearsed that one sentence a thousand times in his mind beforehand.
It’s something that really interests me about him. Everyone likes recognition for what they are good at, and for a plus athlete that means stuff like interviews, public appearance, and commercials, and that stuff is waaay outside his comfort zone right now.
Most professional and plenty of college athletes get coaching on what to say in interviews and how to handle those limelight situations. If his career works out he will get better at these things, but right now it’s very evident he has a hard time with it.
Yes I can understand your perspective on him totally, public speaking is my biggest fear...I hate it with a passion. Plus he is very young too, so perhaps we(i) need to cut him some slack....but it does beg the question, why didn't hue go about it in a different way?
Yes I can understand your perspective on him totally, public speaking is my biggest fear...I hate it with a passion. Plus he is very young too, so perhaps we(i) need to cut him some slack....but it does beg the question, why didn't hue go about it in a different way?
I didn’t think it was a terrible way to go about it. The kid has to learn how to deal with being under a microscope and successes and failures under said microscope. A public apology to his teammates and cameras is a baby step towards that.
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cut callowsy some slack. He played every down the last game and didnt complain and fired out every play. Hats off. Wr's and db's are thw best overall athletes on the field xause they cover so much ground so quickly ON EVERY DOWN. These guys have to.sell the balls coming to.them on every down
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Just watched it last night...
Nassib going all Joe Pesci in Goodfellas during his enlightening financial discussion was possibly the whitest thing I've seen in a minute. "Hey, I'm the only white guy here talking to a bunch of black guys. I guess I need to say F U C K every other word so they'll take me seriously!"
I seriously question the long term viability of Hue and Haley working together.
Landry is good at catching the pigskin.
Hue might be a mediocre head coach, but is a good guy. But man, the guy couldn't inspire a drowning man to jump on a life boat. His speeches to the team were just bad.
John Dorsey is the guy everyone knows, Mr. Alpha Male who asks you a question then starts talking over you three seconds later as you try to answer it.
Just watched it last night...
Nassib going all Joe Pesci in Goodfellas during his enlightening financial discussion was possibly the whitest thing I've seen in a minute. "Hey, I'm the only white guy here talking to a bunch of black guys. I guess I need to say F U C K every other word so they'll take me seriously!"
I seriously question the long term viability of Hue and Haley working together.
Landry is good at catching the pigskin.
Hue might be a mediocre head coach, but is a good guy. But man, the guy couldn't inspire a drowning man to jump on a life boat. His speeches to the team were just bad.
John Dorsey is the guy everyone knows, Mr. Alpha Male who asks you a question then starts talking over you three seconds later as you try to answer it.
Classic stuff! That rates right up there with the "Stiffler's Mom" reply you treated us to you sick bastard!
Here I was all concerned about Landry's audience in the WR Room. For some reason, I always thought Nassib was a modern day Richie Cunningham that hit the weight room after someone kicked sand in his face in life without Fonzi. WRONG! Now, that version of him lining up offsides twice in the Bears' game comes much more into focus. In a world of sic em, sock em and sack em - Lawrence Taylor reminded us you don't have to be the brightest apple in the orchard...
The 2nd episode takes it to another level when OG-G Fabiano from Harvard actually questions the interest percentages Nassib was using from Little's formula. It reminds me of the time my older brother was all buzzed and bragging he bought some land in Florida through a classified ad and my dad said "Congratulations assshole you just bought a swamp!"
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Just watched it last night...
Nassib going all Joe Pesci in Goodfellas during his enlightening financial discussion was possibly the whitest thing I've seen in a minute. "Hey, I'm the only white guy here talking to a bunch of black guys. I guess I need to say F U C K every other word so they'll take me seriously!"
I seriously question the long term viability of Hue and Haley working together.
Landry is good at catching the pigskin.
Hue might be a mediocre head coach, but is a good guy. But man, the guy couldn't inspire a drowning man to jump on a life boat. His speeches to the team were just bad.
John Dorsey is the guy everyone knows, Mr. Alpha Male who asks you a question then starts talking over you three seconds later as you try to answer it.
Classic stuff! That rates right up there with the "Stiffler's Mom" reply you treated us to you sick bastard!
Here I was all concerned about Landry's audience in the WR Room. For some reason, I always thought Nassib was a modern day Richie Cunningham that hit the weight room after someone kicked sand in his face in life without Fonzi. WRONG! Now, that version of him lining up offsides twice in the Bears' game comes much more into focus. In a world of sic em, sock em and sack em - Lawrence Taylor reminded us you don't have to be the brightest apple in the orchard...
The 2nd episode takes it to another level when OG-G Fabiano from Harvard actually questions the interest percentages Nassib was using from Little's formula. It reminds me of the time my older brother was all buzzed and bragging he bought some land in Florida through a classified ad and my dad said "Congratulations assshole you just bought a swamp!"
The 2nd episode takes it to another level when OG-G Fabiano from Harvard actually questions the interest percentages Nassib was using from Little's formula. It reminds me of the time my older brother was all buzzed and bragging he bought some land in Florida through a classified ad and my dad said "Congratulations pooper you just bought a swamp!"
Yeah, it's now called Sun City.? (Actually they did build a Del Webb called Sweetwater near Jacksonville right out of swampland. A Sister-in-law lives there)
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cut callowsy some slack. He played every down the last game and didnt complain and fired out every play. Hats off. Wr's and db's are thw best overall athletes on the field xause they cover so much ground so quickly ON EVERY DOWN. These guys have to.sell the balls coming to.them on every down
cut callowsy some slack. He played every down the last game and didnt complain and fired out every play. Hats off. Wr's and db's are thw best overall athletes on the field xause they cover so much ground so quickly ON EVERY DOWN. These guys have to.sell the balls coming to.them on every down
How thoughtful of Callaway not to complain about hustling for 4 quarters in his audition for a starting job. Any other Pro Football WRs in our division that have ever considered hustling for 4 quarters of football without complaining?
I'm just busting your balls Clevs. But you do realize he's put himself just 1 brain fart away from Roger Goodfella playing God with a suspension that won't be very merciful. WR is the position group we could least afford losing another talented guy to off the field issues. When we're already working around the Josh Gordon thing all this time - the next guy threatening his own playing time off the field isn't going to get sympathy or kid gloves here.
Like you said, you can't be stupid and play at the NFL level. If he's going to be stupid again, he's not going to be playing again. All that's left here is tough love...
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cut callowsy some slack. He played every down the last game and didnt complain and fired out every play. Hats off. Wr's and db's are thw best overall athletes on the field xause they cover so much ground so quickly ON EVERY DOWN. These guys have to.sell the balls coming to.them on every down
How thoughtful of Callaway not to complain about hustling for 4 quarters in his audition for a starting job. Any other Pro Football WRs in our division that have ever considered hustling for 4 quarters of football without complaining?
I'm just busting your balls Clevs. But you do realize he's put himself just 1 brain fart away from Roger Goodfella playing God with a suspension that won't be very merciful. WR is the position group we could least afford losing another talented guy to off the field issues. When we're already working around the Josh Gordon thing all this time - the next guy threatening his own playing time off the field isn't going to get sympathy or kid gloves here.
Like you said, you can't be stupid and play at the NFL level. If he's going to be stupid again, he's not going to be playing again. All that's left here is tough love...
How thoughtful of Callaway not to complain about hustling for 4 quarters in his audition for a starting job. Any other Pro Football WRs in our division that have ever considered hustling for 4 quarters of football without complaining?
I'm just busting your balls Clevs. But you do realize he's put himself just 1 brain fart away from Roger Goodfella playing God with a suspension that won't be very merciful. WR is the position group we could least afford losing another talented guy to off the field issues. When we're already working around the Josh Gordon thing all this time - the next guy threatening his own playing time off the field isn't going to get sympathy or kid gloves here.
Like you said, you can't be stupid and play at the NFL level. If he's going to be stupid again, he's not going to be playing again. All that's left here is tough love...
cmon flugel, some of the best vet wr's in the game wouldnt have come out like that on every play. Remember when gordon was supposedly awesome for us? He still got blown up dustin fox on the all-22 for loafing off the line when the ball wasnt comin to him ergo giving the play away. Thats why i was callimg for gordon to be traded years ago before any troubles started and his trade value was highest. Water under the bridge now he's our special project kid. But point is this calloway kid didnt cry like corey coleman or nothin and even after his TD went back in without complaint.
That sht had to be exhausting.....and to still walk away from the sevondary on that TD, respect!
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