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*GAMEDAY THREAD* FRIDAY AUG. 17 - Buffalo at CLE 7:30 pm -or- Baltimore at CLE 7:10 pm your choice!

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  • I’d like to take a moment to once again thank Sashi Brown for “forgetting” how to complete a trade when it came to Hue and Jimmy’s deal for AJ McCarron

    @londonbrown said:

    I’d like to take a moment to once again thank Sashi Brown for “forgetting” how to complete a trade when it came to Hue and Jimmy’s deal for AJ McCarron

    Yep, that was one of the things Sashi didn’t do that was actually beneficial to the team.

  • *GAMEDAY THREAD* FRIDAY AUG. 17 - Buffalo at CLE 7:30 pm -or- Baltimore at CLE 7:10 pm your choice!

    So what game do you go to and which do you listen to on the radio....if you're a REAL Cleveland sports fan. 😮

    Bauer (12-6) vs Bundy (7-10)

    GO BROWNS & INDIANS, rock on!

    @mjp28 said:

    *GAMEDAY THREAD* FRIDAY AUG. 17 - Buffalo at CLE 7:30 pm -or- Baltimore at CLE 7:10 pm your choice!

    So what game do you go to and which do you listen to on the radio....if you're a REAL Cleveland sports fan. 😮

    Bauer (12-6) vs Bundy (7-10)

    GO BROWNS & INDIANS, rock on!

    Well over at Carnegie & Ontario Cleveland 2 Baltimore 1 Carrasco W,  Allen SV,  J. Ramirez 2R HR

  • Well it seems that hit by Garrett on McCarron that caused the incomplete pass gave the Bill's QB a hairline fracture in the throwing shoulder.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2791538-aj-mccarron-collarbone-injury-reportedly-diagnosed-as-fracture

  • ........the two Buffalo linemen tap him on the shoulder and say, "You, stay there".  🙂

     https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/video/larry-ogunjobi-swim-moves-two-defenders-to-sack-mccarron  

  • Avery looked good playing with the first team early on 

  • Well it seems that hit by Garrett on McCarron that caused the incomplete pass gave the Bill's QB a hairline fracture in the throwing shoulder.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2791538-aj-mccarron-collarbone-injury-reportedly-diagnosed-as-fracture

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well it seems that hit by Garrett on McCarron that caused the incomplete pass gave the Bill's QB a hairline fracture in the throwing shoulder.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2791538-aj-mccarron-collarbone-injury-reportedly-diagnosed-as-fracture

    But he's just a Zumba dancer.  😁

  • our pass rush is toast without garrett. Ogbah, nassib, orchard.....????

  • our pass rush is toast without garrett. Ogbah, nassib, orchard.....????

    @clevfan4life said:

    our pass rush is toast without garrett. Ogbah, nassib, orchard.....????

    However I notice that often they use those linemen to pull open holes in the OL and in goes a LB or a S. We got burned badly for the TD on a blown coverage assignment on one of those type of defensive plays. Overall I think the D team got a lot of quick pressure on the QBs, especially from the 1st teamers. I think Maccarron would attest to that.

    @hoorta said:

    But he's just a Zumba dancer.  😁

    And see what happens when you try to Tango with him instead of Zumba.?

  • This is what I hoped for the Browns to get. The return to his abilities prior to that first high ankle sprain his Jr. year at A&M. When both wheels are 100%, you see a difference maker. Just ask the ailing McCarron what that was like. Chipped by the TE and runs over/through the LT.

  • Bad News Browns Ogilvie here😉 Penalties..We go from 11 called with 10 accepted in NY, to 11 called with only 7 accepted with Bills..2 were accepted on ST's Janis (runs into fair catch) another falls on coaches with too many on a punt?..2 more ST penalties were offsetting calls, blocking above the waist & running into the crotch of a punter(opps).Our net punts yards against were 28.9 after we got killed on punt returns also.OPI(offensive pass interference). Same drive Landry gets called on 1st down,Higgins gets same flag on 3rd down 1 play later.Cajuste gets a 3rd OPI call,on 3rd down again removing a TD off the board to get a FG.Avery illegal use of hands on 3rd down leads to Bills getting TD instead of getting off the field.Harrison a hold/Durango a false start, all the norm, with Shon Coleman(thought Shon played well) staying clean of calls but Harrison/Durango both happened on 3rd down again.Durango & Corbett played every snap. In the books it shows Orch taking the roughing the passing call late.Henderson was blocked low which caused Peterman to be hit low imo..call it 7 called minus 70 yards in penalties, but they were certainly at the wrong time to kill drives or stop them..

  • @clevfan4life said:

    our pass rush is toast without garrett. Ogbah, nassib, orchard.....????

    However I notice that often they use those linemen to pull open holes in the OL and in goes a LB or a S. We got burned badly for the TD on a blown coverage assignment on one of those type of defensive plays. Overall I think the D team got a lot of quick pressure on the QBs, especially from the 1st teamers. I think Maccarron would attest to that.

    @hoorta said:

    But he's just a Zumba dancer.  😁

    And see what happens when you try to Tango with him instead of Zumba.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    However I notice that often they use those linemen to pull open holes in the OL and in goes a LB or a S. We got burned badly for the TD on a blown coverage assignment on one of those type of defensive plays. Overall I think the D team got a lot of quick pressure on the QBs, especially from the 1st teamers. I think Maccarron would attest to that.

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    Me too Aggies!   Guess who caused the QB to step forward into Ogunjobi?   Myles Garrett's pressure off the edge.  If that didn't exist, that sack probably doesn't either. 

    Like Gregg Williams said last year, if we could just COVER somebody for another second or so - Garrett would have had a lot more sacks the 28 times he was about 1 step from the QB.  The better our team around Garrett gets - the more we'll notice how helpful he is at hurrying passers or pressuring them into other teammates in pursuit.

    If he keeps the ankle healthy, what's not to like here?  I hope we don't play him too much next week. There's nothing he needs to prove...

  • It was good to see Nick Chubb reminding people they might want to give him more than part of 1 preseason game to prove himself.  If Mike Pruitt never got that, he would've never earned 2 Pro Bowls in about 4-5 years into a career that started in park.  I thought Chubb looked a lot more like the guy that succeeded in the SEC... There's still a lot to learn for all our rookies. 

    I loved the coaching I saw Callaway getting in Hardknocks when he didn't adjust his route to the give-me the coverage leverage handed him in the 1st half of the Giants game.  The 2nd half went a whole lot better for him that night. 

  • Well it seems that hit by Garrett on McCarron that caused the incomplete pass gave the Bill's QB a hairline fracture in the throwing shoulder.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2791538-aj-mccarron-collarbone-injury-reportedly-diagnosed-as-fracture

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well it seems that hit by Garrett on McCarron that caused the incomplete pass gave the Bill's QB a hairline fracture in the throwing shoulder.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2791538-aj-mccarron-collarbone-injury-reportedly-diagnosed-as-fracture

    Ode to McCarron’s Collarbone

    I dropped back to make the pass

    And in doing so got dumped on my àss

    Incomplete

    Now l can’t compete

    Injury sutained 

    Myles Garrett to blame

  • chubb never got any snaps against their first team D did he? i mean he didnt look bad but imo he's competing for the 3rd spot. Hyde and duke look like the set right now

  • I’d like to take a moment to once again thank Sashi Brown for “forgetting” how to complete a trade when it came to Hue and Jimmy’s deal for AJ McCarron

    @londonbrown said:

    I’d like to take a moment to once again thank Sashi Brown for “forgetting” how to complete a trade when it came to Hue and Jimmy’s deal for AJ McCarron

    another possible blunder from hue

  • It's really concerning to me that we don't have a pass rush without Garrett. He seems like the only guy who can make plays consistently. I really need to see more from the other side. On the plus side, Ogunjobi is going to be a star, not good, potentially a star. 

    I'm also not sure we can keep Genard Avery off the field on pass rushing downs. He's physical and extremely potent. He could very well be the steal of the draft. We also need to continue getting pressure without heavy blitzing because that's what screwed us last year. 

    I've always said I want Tyrod Taylor to be the starting QB. I do NOT want Baker rushed into anything. However, I'm not totally sure we can keep this guy off of the field. Baker has magical footwork in the pocket. It's actually better than I thought it was, ya know? He moves so well but doesn't take off when he feels pressure. I'm beyond stunned at how he operates, I really am. To be perfectly honest, I need to see Baker against the number 1's, and I need to see him play WITH the number 1's. I need to see him with the receivers who get open, the line that blocks, and the real stable of weapons we have on this roster. We need to see it. 

    I'm not impressed with our depth and not impressed by our special teams...STILL. That concerns me. Special teams can win or lose the game, especially to a team like us that will no doubt be in close contests throughout the year. I stand by my word that Tyrod is the guy for us, but if I had a concern about him, it's what happens when we're down 10 points in the 4th and the defense knows we're throwing it? Can he take the chances and execute when the defenses are expect it? We're certainly going to find out. 

  • Bad News Browns Ogilvie here😉 Penalties..We go from 11 called with 10 accepted in NY, to 11 called with only 7 accepted with Bills..2 were accepted on ST's Janis (runs into fair catch) another falls on coaches with too many on a punt?..2 more ST penalties were offsetting calls, blocking above the waist & running into the crotch of a punter(opps).Our net punts yards against were 28.9 after we got killed on punt returns also.OPI(offensive pass interference). Same drive Landry gets called on 1st down,Higgins gets same flag on 3rd down 1 play later.Cajuste gets a 3rd OPI call,on 3rd down again removing a TD off the board to get a FG.Avery illegal use of hands on 3rd down leads to Bills getting TD instead of getting off the field.Harrison a hold/Durango a false start, all the norm, with Shon Coleman(thought Shon played well) staying clean of calls but Harrison/Durango both happened on 3rd down again.Durango & Corbett played every snap. In the books it shows Orch taking the roughing the passing call late.Henderson was blocked low which caused Peterman to be hit low imo..call it 7 called minus 70 yards in penalties, but they were certainly at the wrong time to kill drives or stop them..

    @gumby73 said:

    Bad News Browns Ogilvie here😉 Penalties..We go from 11 called with 10 accepted in NY, to 11 called with only 7 accepted with Bills..2 were accepted on ST's Janis (runs into fair catch) another falls on coaches with too many on a punt?..2 more ST penalties were offsetting calls, blocking above the waist & running into the crotch of a punter(opps). Our net punts yards against were 28.9 after we got killed on punt returns also.OPI(offensive pass interference). Same drive Landry gets called on 1st down,Higgins gets same flag on 3rd down 1 play later.Cajuste gets a 3rd OPI call,on 3rd down again removing a TD off the board to get a FG.Avery illegal use of hands on 3rd down leads to Bills getting TD instead of getting off the field.Harrison a hold/Durango a false start, all the norm, with Shon Coleman(thought Shon played well) staying clean of calls but Harrison/Durango both happened on 3rd down again.Durango & Corbett played every snap. In the books it shows Orch taking the roughing the passing call late.Henderson was blocked low which caused Peterman to be hit low imo..call it 7 called minus 70 yards in penalties, but they were certainly at the wrong time to kill drives or stop them..

    Report from the game, what you just said, and more...

    1) Far too many stupid penalties... (ghoolie is gloating) resulting in TD for Bills, and taking one of our TDs off the board... Duly noted punt coverage sucked, guys getting out of their lanes resulting in big returns.

    2) DB coverage (or more exactly non-coverage) in the secondary in the second half was atrocious. Several where our guy wasn't within 10 yards of the receiver when the pass got there. Note to Mr. Williams- why are you still playing your safeties in the parking lot 20 yards off the ball when it's third and five? Inquiring minds want to know. That's a gift first down underneath coverage.  

  • Kizer TD pass! GB 34 pit 14 00:38 left in first half. 😆  A. Rodgers looked good when he was in 1 TD pass.

    General notes...

    • It was fun watching Carlos run. Did not look to be 230#... looked quick... and loved the way he finished runs. Plus Duke looked fresh and Chubb played a little more downhill than Week 1.
    • Higgins is starting to make me a believer...
    • Our depth is pretty dismal except at LB, QB and RB, but that'll take more time. For now at least we have it in some areas.
    • Man, but ST coverage was bad... and returns weren't drastically better.
    • Agree with the earlier comments about the pass rush. Orchard flashed here and there, but has no depth discipline.
    • Avery was mentioned as a rusher... I'll +1 that and add Kendricks to the mix. I feel like Collins is destined for DE with one of these "kids' at LOLB.

    @mjp28 said:

    Kizer TD pass! GB 34 pit 14 00:38 left in first half. 😆  A. Rodgers looked good when he was in 1 TD pass.

    Saw Kizer's stats... quite a game for him.

  • I'm starting to think Jamie Collins might not be a Brown when Training Camp wraps up. 

  • I'm starting to think Jamie Collins might not be a Brown when Training Camp wraps up. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm starting to think Jamie Collins might not be a Brown when Training Camp wraps up. 

    A statement like that begs the question.

    Do you prefer leather or denim chaps?

    Also, why do you think Collins won’t be with the team this year?