Peppers
-
Damn
This is gonna be one of those threads where, in response to haters/those that don't know what they're talking about, I speak for the middle ground, in a way that defends Pep, and then I get called a Homer for it.
Damn. It might be
See how stupid you are? You defend him unquestionably, and you call that the middleground? Hello McFly is anybody home arsebag? You’re taking his side completely and without giving a thought to how he has played. Peppers has been below average so far in his performance for this team. Plain simple true. Are there potential explanations....he is out of position, etc.? Perhaps. Can he improver? Hopefully.....but he has still played like a 6th rounder, not a first rounder.
See how stupid you are you defend him and you call that the middleground hello McFly is anybody home pooper you’re taking his side completely. Peppers has been below average so far in his performance for this team plain simple trueSee how stupid you are you defend him and you call that the middleground hello McFly is anybody home pooper you’re taking his side completely. Peppers has been below average so far in his performance for this team plain simple true
Right, I sound stupid... not the guy using the word "pooper" and saying everything twice...
I state facts. I try to "defend" him from nonsense and false statements. I've never once claimed he's playing like a superstar or any of that. I'm providing background, and again, facts, for anyone making claims without any real base.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Because it's not something we really had him do at Michigan and it's not something we had him do last year.
Your post before this, where you go off against what you think a SS is, I don't think you're paying attention to where we've had him lining up and what we've had him doing. He does play a deep half now and then, he blitzes, he covers TEs, and he covers the slot. That's not a demotion. It's a different piece in a complex puzzle. Williams had him at deep safety last year because he was our best option at it on the team. Now he has him in this Swiss army knife role for a similar reason. That's a critical piece to today's NFL defense. You made plenty of claims to the contrary, but I think I'll go with Williams on this one.
I get that you've been against him since we drafted him, you've made that very clear. You may think I'm being biased, I don't doubt you do. You need to at least be realistic in what you're saying though and look at the facts. Damn.
Woody, I hold no grudge against Peppers because he went to Michigan. Let's just say as a first round pick- he's not drawing comparisons to Ed Reed yet.
PS- I was at the Bill's game, and Williams is only playing his safetys a 1\2 mile off the ball now, and a couple two guys deep.
Woody, I hold no grudge against Peppers because he went to Michigan. Let's just say as a first round pick- he's not drawing comparisons to Ed Reed yet.
PS- I was at the Bill's game, and Williams is only playing his safetys a 1\2 mile off the ball now, and a couple two guys deep.
I wouldn't expect him to since they play different positions
I really think Williams change in how he uses his safeties is mainly due to how much trust he has in our CBs now. He doesn't need a FS so far back to serve as his "Angel".
-
well he's a guy that will talk up & down about his defensive personal..
almost 17 mins.(l loved it) Peppers near the end but don't miss the coaching of D.Ward..Enjoy!
well he's a guy that will talk up & down about his defensive personal..
almost 17 mins.(l loved it) Peppers near the end but don't miss the coaching of D.Ward..Enjoy!
I love how now we have a defensive roster more flexible than last year that allows us to put 11 players who thanks to their versatility have the ability to play different schemes proficiently.
It is one of the major threats a defense can show, and I see Williams doing it not forcing players out of their natural positions.
-
See how stupid you are you defend him and you call that the middleground hello McFly is anybody home pooper you’re taking his side completely. Peppers has been below average so far in his performance for this team plain simple trueSee how stupid you are you defend him and you call that the middleground hello McFly is anybody home pooper you’re taking his side completely. Peppers has been below average so far in his performance for this team plain simple true
Right, I sound stupid... not the guy using the word "pooper" and saying everything twice...
I state facts. I try to "defend" him from nonsense and false statements. I've never once claimed he's playing like a superstar or any of that. I'm providing background, and again, facts, for anyone making claims without any real base.
Right, I sound stupid... not the guy using the word "pooper" and saying everything twice...
More evidence of your stupidity. The forum now autocorrects the word a-s-s-hole for pooper....How long have you been on this board to not know that? And how long have you been around to not know that when I speak into my phone, it duplicates my comments. We have had numerous discussions on here about this but have had no solution. More evidence of you being clueless and out of touch.
I state facts. I try to "defend" him from nonsense and false statements.
What specific nonsense and false statements have been made about him? I don't know about others, but I personally have only said that he has been disappointing to this point and has not played up to his draft status or his potential. There may be some legitimate excuses for that based on the way he has been used, but it is still a fact, nevertheless.
I've never once claimed he's playing like a superstar or any of that. I'm providing background, and again, facts, for anyone making claims without any real base.
Background? Facts? I have seen none of those. Opinions, perhaps.
-
ill.go on record now thst i think peppers, if/when williams fully integrates him into the defense and starts bringing him closer to the LOS.....peppers is going to have palomalu like seasons.
it all comes down to if williams can get him to properly read plays at the snap and react properly. Than you'll have a guy with that athletic ability close to the los who recovers depth if the offense tries to go high.
-
Oh joy, I can expect Gipper to get all flustered and respond to me in any threads we're both in. Back to that. First Meyer, now this. I don't expect to get anywhere in either of them, as history has shown multiple times.
I'll just leave our side conversation be for now and see if anything else becomes of this thread.
(This is when you get your last word in)
-
Oh joy, I can expect Gipper to get all flustered and respond to me in any threads we're both in. Back to that. First Meyer, now this. I don't expect to get anywhere in either of them, as history has shown multiple times.
I'll just leave our side conversation be for now and see if anything else becomes of this thread.
(This is when you get your last word in)
Oh joy, I can expect Gipper to get all flustered and respond to me in any threads we're both in. Back to that. First Meyer, now this. I don't expect to get anywhere in either of them, as history has shown multiple times.
I'll just leave our side conversation be for now and see if anything else becomes of this thread.
(This is when you get your last word in)
You asked that we not feed the troll....I declined. I consider you as big of a troll as Ghoolie is.
Why? Because this is a brown and orange board. And a scarlett and gray board. You seem to ONLY display your simperings and whimperings when some corn and navy colored player is at issue (even when they play for the Browns) I would wager that about 80% of your posts, even here on the Browns board, deal only with anyone that played for TLUN. (Those Losers Up North).
Besides that....there is no "fluster" at all about it. Stating facts and truths is not flustering for me. It is just natural to do so. You are the one, apparently, that can't handle the truth. You always have to make excuses for your boys. You always have to see how many angels you can make dance on the head of a pin.
I just tell it like it is, and don't worry about it. Peppers has been disappointing and has played below expectations. There was no basis to terminate Meyer. I recognize this and move on. You on the other hand do a Rumpelstilskin dance and screw yourself into the ground in rage and frustration. Hopefully, like him, you will fall into a chasm and never be heard from again.
(Read my avatar to figure things out)
-
what he did at michigan is really irrelevant to everything. The nfl is a different game. His usefulness at michigan really doesn't translate to the nfl in 2018.
And yes, being switched the less valuable safety role is a demotion.
As for when he covers the slot, we'll see how good he is at that. I'm not optimistic. Having an extra nickel corner or more versatile safety out there in his place would be preferred for such situations.
As for what williams does with him, my guess is williams would prefer a better player period.
You asked how he had no real experience covering TEs. I told you. What he did and didn't do at Michigan isn't irrelevant in that regard. It also does translate. The game is evolving and those same skills are more important. We have a DC that can take advantage of it.
Less valuable in your opinion.
A slot CB would not be as useful if you still want to provide a blitzes threat and run support.
Sure, every DC would prefer all pros across their roster, but that's not happening. If you think Williams had no input on us drafting him you're crazy.
You asked how he had no real experience covering TEs. I told you.
Taco rarely says what he says... at least once he's called on it.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
You asked how he had no real experience covering TEs. I told you.
Taco rarely says what he says... at least once he's called on it.
-
There were so many other players available when we drafted him. So many that fit a specific need. It really was a bad pick, but it doesn't have to stay that way. Prove me wrong Peppers.
-
There were so many other players available when we drafted him. So many that fit a specific need. It really was a bad pick, but it doesn't have to stay that way. Prove me wrong Peppers.
There were so many other players available when we drafted him. So many that fit a specific need. It really was a bad pick, but it doesn't have to stay that way. Prove me wrong Peppers.
Peppers was made to be a close in stopper hybrid DB/LB. Williams will get it right in the long run. Not tipping his hand in pre-season. Now he has some true safeties and CBs and someone better in B-C to sometimes play centerfield.
-
Year #2 and he hasn’t distinguished himself from the other guys on the team, that says enough for me.
Dont worry Woody the OSU guys will be defending Ward and bashing Williams when Ward gets exposed ?
-
Year #2 and he hasn’t distinguished himself from the other guys on the team, that says enough for me.
Dont worry Woody the OSU guys will be defending Ward and bashing Williams when Ward gets exposed ?
Year #2 and he hasn’t distinguished himself from the other guys on the team, that says enough for me.
Dont worry Woody the OSU guys will be defending Ward and bashing Williams when Ward gets exposed ?
Oh I know. I'll wait for you to do that haha
I can only imagine how long it took with Robiske for those guys here
-
Year #2 and he hasn’t distinguished himself from the other guys on the team, that says enough for me.
Dont worry Woody the OSU guys will be defending Ward and bashing Williams when Ward gets exposed ?
Year #2 and he hasn’t distinguished himself from the other guys on the team, that says enough for me.
Well, considering when he returned from injury he was immediately running with the first team at SS tells me, maybe he has flashed enough to "distinguish" himself...
#Justsayin' -
Year #2 and he hasn’t distinguished himself from the other guys on the team, that says enough for me.
Well, considering when he returned from injury he was immediately running with the first team at SS tells me, maybe he has flashed enough to "distinguish" himself...
-
Von Bell... hell, even Tyvus Powell has made a niche in the league.
-
-
Yep, OSU has produced a lot of DB talent recently. Variying success in the NFL, but it's still early for a lot of them. Lattimore has obviously been lights out.
Hopefully Michigan is trending that way with DBs. Lewis, Hill and Peppers (plus some UDFAs from that secondary). We also had two of the top rated CBs in CFB returning for this year. It'll be interesting to see how this draft shakes out from our D.
-
Yep, OSU has produced a lot of DB talent recently. Variying success in the NFL, but it's still early for a lot of them. Lattimore has obviously been lights out.
Hopefully Michigan is trending that way with DBs. Lewis, Hill and Peppers (plus some UDFAs from that secondary). We also had two of the top rated CBs in CFB returning for this year. It'll be interesting to see how this draft shakes out from our D.
Yep, OSU has produced a lot of DB talent recently. Variying success in the NFL, but it's still early for a lot of them. Lattimore has obviously been lights out.
Hopefully Michigan is trending that way with DBs. Lewis, Hill and Peppers (plus some UDFAs from that secondary). We also had two of the top rated CBs in CFB returning for this year. It'll be interesting to see how this draft shakes out from our D.
I've always thought Peppers was so overrated.
I felt that Lewis was the best on that team.
Then again, I'm just some schmuck on the interwebs
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login