hue jackson
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imo, the injury info was already out in media? no? ..all i get is Hue power tripping a)hue trumped Wylie to Z on moving Joel. Hue told media than "you all ask my assistants far too many questions". b) Hue questions Denzel & Randall on practice field," are we listening" c) RB coach & Haley get Hue trabbled next, questioning toughness/absent from field..d) now it's Greggs turn..Gregg never called Denzel stupid, but yes he called out Denzel for stupid tackling techniques..sounds to me denzel does not accept coaching to well & Williams knows it.. Hues going down swinging with "this is my team" or we might need a marsh "mellow" campfire at Hue's place after lions game..
Well, it is Hue's fucking team.
Put yourself in his shoes, is he supposed to kowtow to his assistants?
You may not like his style, you as a fan might respect Williams or Haley more, but it doesn't make him wrong ... it's his ship, and as long as it is, things get done his way.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Well, it is Hue's Shmucking team.
Put yourself in his shoes, is he supposed to kowtow to his assistants?
You may not like his style, you as a fan might respect Williams or Haley more, but it doesn't make him wrong ... it's his ship, and as long as it is, things get done his way.
Zombo
its the hypocrisy for me, Z. go to the media to bitch about an assistant going to the media? simply bush league. tells me hue aint got the stones to deal with williams one on one.
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Zombo said:
Well, it is Hue's Shmucking team.
Put yourself in his shoes, is he supposed to kowtow to his assistants?
You may not like his style, you as a fan might respect Williams or Haley more, but it doesn't make him wrong ... it's his ship, and as long as it is, things get done his way.
Zombo
its the hypocrisy for me, Z. go to the media to bitch about an assistant going to the media? simply bush league. tells me hue aint got the stones to deal with williams one on one.
its the hypocrisy for me, Z. go to the media to bitch about an assistant going to the media? simply bush league. tells me hue aint got the stones to deal with williams one on one.
I just look at it as "If it was so and so ... ", like name a respected coach (Bill, Tomlin, McCarthy, Reid etc...) if they call out their DC then everybody goes "damn .... That's how good teams do it, the run a tight ship and keep their assistants in their place."
But Ol 1-31 Hue does it to one of his Hard Knocks TV Star coordinators and it's "oh my gosh he looks like such an idiot ... "
He looks like an idiot because he's 1-31.
He has no choice but to act like a leader while he is the leader and tell guys to shut up and do things his way. If you're going to be the head coach, be the head coach.
That's a different argument from whether he should be the head coach.
Zombo
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Wow. Does he really come off as a 'punk'? Are there photos of him with a rolled up $20 bill or something?
The term "punk" has many more connotations than just the "street punk" image that you must think it exclusively means. A "punk" can simply be a short person....along with other meanings.
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its the hypocrisy for me, Z. go to the media to bitch about an assistant going to the media? simply bush league. tells me hue aint got the stones to deal with williams one on one.
I just look at it as "If it was so and so ... ", like name a respected coach (Bill, Tomlin, McCarthy, Reid etc...) if they call out their DC then everybody goes "damn .... That's how good teams do it, the run a tight ship and keep their assistants in their place."
But Ol 1-31 Hue does it to one of his Hard Knocks TV Star coordinators and it's "oh my gosh he looks like such an idiot ... "
He looks like an idiot because he's 1-31.
He has no choice but to act like a leader while he is the leader and tell guys to shut up and do things his way. If you're going to be the head coach, be the head coach.
That's a different argument from whether he should be the head coach.
Zombo
Zombo said:
I just look at it as "If it was so and so ... ", like name a respected coach (Bill, Tomlin, McCarthy, Reid etc...) if they call out their DC then everybody goes "damn .... That's how good teams do it, the run a tight ship and keep their assistants in their place."
But Ol 1-31 Hue does it to one of his Hard Knocks TV Star coordinators and it's "oh my gosh he looks like such an idiot ... "
He looks like an idiot because he's 1-31.
He has no choice but to act like a leader while he is the leader and tell guys to shut up and do things his way. If you're going to be the head coach, be the head coach.
That's a different argument from whether he should be the head coach.
Zombo
& Now Hue wants to be Mr. Tough Guy with his coordinators? Hard for a head coach who just racked up the worst two year record in NFL history to command any respect. Williams and Haley were brought in to save his sorry a-s-s, and MHO is Jackson IS an idiot if he doesn't listen to them. I'd hazard a guess they're both more respected around the league than Hue.
PS- it was brought up on another board Haslam was a part owner of the Steelers, just may be the reason Haley is with the Browns now.
We'll see how it plays out over the next few months, but it's reinforcing my opinion Hue is in way over his head.
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Zombo said:
Hues right ... Assistant coaches shouldn't be discussing injuries.
Z
and when mkc asked the question to hue all he needed to do was say nothing or I have talked to coach Williams it's all in house
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Wow. Does he really come off as a 'punk'? Are there photos of him with a rolled up $20 bill or something?
The term "punk" has many more connotations than just the "street punk" image that you must think it exclusively means. A "punk" can simply be a short person....along with other meanings.
The term "punk"
...to me means a form of A-hole.
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Have no issue with Williams calling out Ward or Hue calling out Williams. The bigger issue for me is I think Ward was a bad pick at 4 and won’t produce the way you’d like the 4th pick to. Add that to the questionable Mayfield selection and it seems like deja vu.
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