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  • @choco said:

    if you read up on it Gip, Dorsey said in a more round about way that Kendricks and his agent mislead them on the severity of his involvement, and thats why he was released.

    Well, OK, perhaps.   I still say that if he was a supreme talent, they would have waited, but since perhaps he did not distinguish himself all that much from the players he is competing with for a job, it made it a lot easier to axe him.   

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Well, OK, perhaps.   I still say that if he was a supreme talent, they would have waited, but since perhaps he did not distinguish himself all that much from the players he is competing with for a job, it made it a lot easier to axe him.   

    My first inclination as well......pro bowl prospect, ah, well let's not rush to judgement just yet.

    BUT I do like the way the "new" new BROWNS are being run, a vast improvement over the post 1996 or 1999+ versions. 

  • this is the very telling portion....

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    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @choco said:

    this is the very telling portion....

    capture4.png.0bcd98128dcb91215358cba6db5189a0.png

    Dorsey was mislead. Big difference in "victim" and "active participant". If you read deeper, Mychal and the broker were talking in code. JD wanted no part of the repercussions. 

  • @choco said:

    this is the very telling portion....

    capture4.png.0bcd98128dcb91215358cba6db5189a0.png

    Dorsey was mislead. Big difference in "victim" and "active participant". If you read deeper, Mychal and the broker were talking in code. JD wanted no part of the repercussions. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    Dorsey was mislead. Big difference in "victim" and "active participant". If you read deeper, Mychal and the broker were talking in code. JD wanted no part of the repercussions. 

    And, again, his talent was not worth the wait.   Compare to Josh Gordon.  And, correct me if I am wrong, Josh never actually ever face a "criminal" charge for anything, did he?   Not even possession, ala Calloway.

  • @hoorta said:

    Dorsey was mislead. Big difference in "victim" and "active participant". If you read deeper, Mychal and the broker were talking in code. JD wanted no part of the repercussions. 

    And, again, his talent was not worth the wait.   Compare to Josh Gordon.  And, correct me if I am wrong, Josh never actually ever face a "criminal" charge for anything, did he?   Not even possession, ala Calloway.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    And, again, his talent was not worth the wait.   Compare to Josh Gordon.  And, correct me if I am wrong, Josh never actually ever face a "criminal" charge for anything, did he?   Not even possession, ala Calloway.

    IIRC Gip, Josh did get busted for a DUI.  But that's 3 days of drunk school and a $500 fine at worst, as opposed to the potential of multiple years in the Federal Slammer.  

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    Did I see correctly that Kendricks admitted guilt after all?

    athletic talent > brain talent

  • Did I see correctly that Kendricks admitted guilt after all?

    athletic talent > brain talent

    chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    Did I see correctly that Kendricks admitted guilt after all?

    athletic talent > brain talent

    he did.  "i knew it was illegal" kinda flies in the face of being a victim...

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    dorsey appears to be a man who's in no mood for bullsht. I hope players took note

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    I hope he has to return his signing bonus.

  • dorsey appears to be a man who's in no mood for bullsht. I hope players took note

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    dorsey appears to be a man who's in no mood for bullsht. I hope players took note

    ya he's still pissed about Bakers parody of him

  • @the-gipper said:

    And, again, his talent was not worth the wait.   Compare to Josh Gordon.  And, correct me if I am wrong, Josh never actually ever face a "criminal" charge for anything, did he?   Not even possession, ala Calloway.

    IIRC Gip, Josh did get busted for a DUI.  But that's 3 days of drunk school and a $500 fine at worst, as opposed to the potential of multiple years in the Federal Slammer.  

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    IIRC Gip, Josh did get busted for a DUI.  But that's 3 days of drunk school and a $500 fine at worst, as opposed to the potential of multiple years in the Federal Slammer.  

    Don't forget the 6 month license suspension for the DUI,   plus the $475.00 reinstatement fees. Plus, there is what we call the "hard time" suspension...i.e. the time that you cannot have driving privileges.  (10 days for a blow,  30 for a refusal).  Plus whatever your insurance will do to you.  Plus attorney fees if you decide to hire one.  In Ohio, on a first time only it is not mandatory to have "party plates"...or do do the ignition interlock system....though....some courts/judges can require those even on a first time offense.  

    So....getting a DUI can cost a lot of money....and be very, very inconvenient.

    It is not an insubstantial penalty.   Getting popped for weed is much less of a detriment.   You have  max  $150.00 fine, plus the license suspension (which is really just  a F8ck you penalty set up by the legislature).

  • I hope he has to return his signing bonus.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    I hope he has to return his signing bonus.

    How much did he get?   I would think it highly possible that that would have to be returned.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well, OK, perhaps.   I still say that if he was a supreme talent, they would have waited, but since perhaps he did not distinguish himself all that much from the players he is competing with for a job, it made it a lot easier to axe him.   

    My first inclination as well......pro bowl prospect, ah, well let's not rush to judgement just yet.

    BUT I do like the way the "new" new BROWNS are being run, a vast improvement over the post 1996 or 1999+ versions. 

    Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
    #57

    @mjp28 said:

    My first inclination as well......pro bowl prospect, ah, well let's not rush to judgement just yet.

    BUT I do like the way the "new" new BROWNS are being run, a vast improvement over the post 1996 or 1999+ versions. 

    Agree!

    Mike

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I hope he has to return his signing bonus.

    How much did he get?   I would think it highly possible that that would have to be returned.

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    How much did he get?   I would think it highly possible that that would have to be returned.

    500K signing bonus falls to dead cap or...

  • F FALCON7 wrote on last edited by
    #59

    (Financial crisis of 2007–2008) 

    The largest man-made economic catastrophe since the Great Depression resulted in the jailing of a single investment banker. 

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #60

    Estimated Career Earnings - hmmmmm,  I'm not sure how this all falls out but the 2018 regular season hasn't officially started yet. 

    YEAR TEAM SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS WORKOUT BONUS RESTRUCTURE BONUS OPTION BONUS INCENTIVE TOTAL CASH
    2012 Player Cash Earnings $390,000 $1,672,324 - - - - - $2,062,324
    2013 Player Cash Earnings $542,020 - - $50,000 - - - $592,020
    2014 Player Cash Earnings $794,040 - - - - - - $794,040
    2015 Player Cash Earnings $896,060 $8,000,000 - $100,000 - - $37,242 $9,033,302
    2016 Player Cash Earnings $2,850,000 - - $150,000 - - - $3,000,000
    2017 Player Cash Earnings $4,850,000 - - $150,000 - - - $5,000,000
    6 seasons $10,322,120 $9,672,324 - $450,000 - - $37,242 $20,481,686
    2018 Player Cash Earnings - $500,000 - - - - - $500,000
      $10,322,120 $10,172,324 - $450,000 - - $37,242 $20,981,686

    Current Dead Contracts

    YEAR   BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS WORKOUT BONUS DEAD CAP HIT
    2018 Player contract details by year - $1,600,000 - $1,600,000
    2019 Player contract details by year - $1,600,000 - $1,600,000
     
    YEAR   BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS WORKOUT BONUS DEAD CAP HIT
    2018 Player contract details by year - $500,000 - $500,000
     
  • (Financial crisis of 2007–2008) 

    The largest man-made economic catastrophe since the Great Depression resulted in the jailing of a single investment banker. 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #61

    @falcon7 said:

    (Financial crisis of 2007–2008) 

    The largest man-made economic catastrophe since the Great Depression resulted in the jailing of a single investment banker. 

    The single-best quote from the movie 'Goodfellas', when Paul Sorvino's character is arrested his brother says to the cops: 

    "Hey, why don't you go down to Wall Street and arrest some real crooks?"

  • @falcon7 said:

    (Financial crisis of 2007–2008) 

    The largest man-made economic catastrophe since the Great Depression resulted in the jailing of a single investment banker. 

    The single-best quote from the movie 'Goodfellas', when Paul Sorvino's character is arrested his brother says to the cops: 

    "Hey, why don't you go down to Wall Street and arrest some real crooks?"

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
    #62

    @dutch-oven said:

    The single-best quote from the movie 'Goodfellas', when Paul Sorvino's character is arrested his brother says to the cops: 

    "Hey, why don't you go down to Wall Street and arrest some real crooks?"

    love me some goodfellas.

    liotta was the man. too bad he kinda fell off.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    The single-best quote from the movie 'Goodfellas', when Paul Sorvino's character is arrested his brother says to the cops: 

    "Hey, why don't you go down to Wall Street and arrest some real crooks?"

    love me some goodfellas.

    liotta was the man. too bad he kinda fell off.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #63

    @stillmotion said:

    love me some goodfellas.

    liotta was the man. too bad he kinda fell off.

    He's really good in 'Copland' too. Underrated movie with a killer cast. 

  • @stillmotion said:

    love me some goodfellas.

    liotta was the man. too bad he kinda fell off.

    He's really good in 'Copland' too. Underrated movie with a killer cast. 

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by
    #64

    @dutch-oven said:

    He's really good in 'Copland' too. Underrated movie with a killer cast. 

    stallone had a strange role in that one

  • sydS syd

    @dutch-oven said:

    He's really good in 'Copland' too. Underrated movie with a killer cast. 

    stallone had a strange role in that one

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by
    #65

    @syd said:

    stallone had a strange role in that one

    but not as strange as "the rock" in southland tales which btw had a killer soundtrack