*GAMEDAY THREADS* Eagles & Lions
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@tour2ma said:
Random thoughts after tonite's game...
- Our 2's acquitted themselves well.
- How can a team who looked so well drilled, so well prepared draw so many penalties?
- Cajuste did not help himself.
- After seeing both Dayes and Hilliard, I'd get Duke in the WR room STAT!
- I like Robeck... the kid has something... and with TT providing the vet presence in the QB room and Baker taking the #2 slot in hand... Stanton is a luxury. Ship Drew... Keep Brogan.
- Even after his JJ Watt impersonation, I think Orchard is toast.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
well, Tiam, all that should be gleaned from your nonsense criteria of "better" is your fave is the second year player, with a 2.6 career average per carry, only a third down back with a lack of strength to break a tackle...
got that, Tiamsies? analyze that, bigshot. They are different players - Chubb is a powerful three down back, while Dayes is a third down back that lacks strength.
Read up on both players. They are different players.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/matt-dayes?id=2557987
Dayes has fine vision. Chubb has speed, agility, and serious power. They are different type of rb's.
Meanwhile, Tiam the Ham,
“To me, I don’t really feel like he’s a rookie,” running back Carlos Hyde said.
“Usually, rookies come in and be all kind of lost, just trying to feel their way out. I think Nick understands what’s going on. He understands what being a pro is, and he’s definitely been on top of the playbook, been on top of his game, so he’s been doing a pretty good job.”
Running back Duke Johnson Jr. added, “He’s old school. The way he carries himself, the way he dresses in practice, it drives me crazy. His helmet, his face mask, he doesn’t really wear gloves all the time. He’s in the wrong generation.”
Despite sharing carries with Sony Michel, who was selected by the New England Patriots late in the first round of the 2018 NFL Draft, the 5-foot-10, 225-pound Chubb rushed for 4,769 yards and 44 touchdowns on 758 carries for the Bulldogs.
A native of Cedartown, Georgia, Chubb eclipsed the 200-carry and 1,000-yard marks in three of his four seasons “between the hedges,” and helped the Bulldogs reach the 2018 College Football Playoff National Championship Game despite having a freshman quarterback at the helm of the offense.
“I think Chubb’s a beast,” Hyde said. “He’s been doing a great job staying on top of the playbook, coming in. The way he finishes, everything about the kid is good. He’s just an overall player that’s going to come in, help us win and bring a lot to the team.”
Chubb began the 1,000-yard rushing campaigns with a career-high 1,547 yards and 14 touchdowns on 219 carries during his freshman season.
After being limited to just 747 yards on 92 carries in his sophomore year, Chubb punctuated his collegiate career with back-to-back 1,100-yard seasons.
Chubb rushed for 1,130 yards and eight scores on 224 carries in 2016, and finished his career with 1,345 yards and 15 touchdowns on 223 attempts last fall.
In addition to his rushing statistics, Chubb accounted for 359 yards and four touchdowns on 31 career receptions for the Bulldogs.
“He’s a workhorse,” linebacker Christian Kirksey said. “You saw him in college. He’s a guy, he’s not going to do too many shakes. He’s gonna make one cut and go downhill, try to run you over, maybe stiff-arm you, but he’s definitely a workhorse.”
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different types of players, Tiam. Your little Tiam critique is crapola.
I wonder how a rb can run for "4,769 yards and 44 touchdowns on 758 carries for the Bulldogs." with a "Tiamsies doesn't like Chubb's vision" goin on.
Furthermore,
Chubb - 53 yards and one touchdown on 11 carries against the Bills. That is just shy of 5 yards per carry.
For a rookie. In his second preseason game in the NFL.
well, Tiam, all that should be gleaned from your nonsense criteria of "better" is your fave is the second year player, with a 2.6 career average per carry, only a third down back with a lack of strength to break a tackle...
got that, Tiamsies? analyze that, bigshot. They are different players - Chubb is a powerful three down back, while Dayes is a third down back that lacks strength.
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different types of players, Tiam. Your little Tiam critique is crapola
*watches game vs lions*
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@tour2ma said:
Random thoughts after tonite's game...
- Our 2's acquitted themselves well.
- How can a team who looked so well drilled, so well prepared draw so many penalties?
- Cajuste did not help himself.
- After seeing both Dayes and Hilliard, I'd get Duke in the WR room STAT!
- I like Robeck... the kid has something... and with TT providing the vet presence in the QB room and Baker taking the #2 slot in hand... Stanton is a luxury. Ship Drew... Keep Brogan.
- Even after his JJ Watt impersonation, I think Orchard is toast.
Agree about the 2's. We wanted to increase our depth talent and we've done that to some degree.
The penalties are crazy, especially on punt/kick returns. I saw us literally push people in the back directly in front of the refs. Really guys? How many times last year did we see flags on returns? 75% of the time? Maybe that's exaggerating, but it seemed like it.
Cajuste did ok, although I admit to not watching him specifically. Besides that one drop, did he make mistakes? And that drop wasn't the easiest play. The defender made an excellent play getting the ball out. Does Cajuste need to snatch that ball and bring it in quickly? Of course. But it wasn't like he just channeled his inner Quincy Morgan and clanged it.
I like Dayes, always have. I especially like his acceleration and speed. He hit the hole and just FLEW on the touchdown run. Very impressive. Hilliard does the most with his opportunities, and he's got some wiggle.
I've always heard Robeck had an arm, and even the coaches were on film speaking highly of the kid. It was obvious Robeck's timing was a bit off, but once he settled in he made some big time throws. I loved seeing that TD throw! It was a special moment for him, and you could tell how happy everyone was for him and the receiver. Robeck to practice squad?
Orchard is toast, but only from our team. That incredible play may not have been enough to make OUR team, but Orchard will catch on somewhere else. I know it. He's been around the QB so much, he'll make the plays eventually.
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I'd like to keep the backup center, Reiter. And I kinda' like the way that Roback kid throws the ball.
I'd like to keep the backup center, Reiter. And I kinda' like the way that Roback kid throws the ball.
I was going to create a thread about this. I thought the kid seemed special ed to me on the HBO show. But good God does he have an arm.... I feel better about him sitting behind Baker than Stanton.. Keep 3 QB's Taylor, Baker Roback..
Also how the Shmuck is that Dayes kid??? Where did he come from. he was killing it last night.
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Daynes was a special teamer last year while crowel sucked on the field.
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well, Tiam, all that should be gleaned from your nonsense criteria of "better" is your fave is the second year player, with a 2.6 career average per carry, only a third down back with a lack of strength to break a tackle...
got that, Tiamsies? analyze that, bigshot. They are different players - Chubb is a powerful three down back, while Dayes is a third down back that lacks strength.
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different types of players, Tiam. Your little Tiam critique is crapola
*watches game vs lions*
*watches game vs lions*
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lol. exhibition game, ya? I said I like Dayes, you dissed Chubb, and I said they were different type players.
Personally, I haven't watched the first half of the Browns Lions game yet, but I think it's a tough call between
Dayes and Hilliard. Duke goes WR. Dayes is still a veteran, though, and Chubb is a rookie. Say, how about Chubb's vision you don't like, eh?
https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/video/nick-chubb-dances-through-defenders-for-fourth-down-td
BTW, I believe Hilliard is a meaner blocker by far - I don't know how the Browns don't agonize over some of these cuts.
Like McKinnon and Rice, dbs. I wouldn't be able to cut them. Too much talent.
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I'd like to keep the backup center, Reiter. And I kinda' like the way that Roback kid throws the ball.
I was going to create a thread about this. I thought the kid seemed special ed to me on the HBO show. But good God does he have an arm.... I feel better about him sitting behind Baker than Stanton.. Keep 3 QB's Taylor, Baker Roback..
Also how the Shmuck is that Dayes kid??? Where did he come from. he was killing it last night.
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dancing through guys fighting for ps spots
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Duke is not moving to WR.
Dayes is 4th RB and Special teams if he survives the bubble.
Zombo
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the Browns are going to have one hell of a tough time, with losing guys off their practice squad now.
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I thought Hilliard looked kinda' slow last night. Dayes might latch on because of special teams.
We have to bare in mind that last night's game was against the Lions backups and backups to the backups. We had some OLinemen playing who are/were starters for us (Reiter being one of 'em).
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I thought Hilliard looked kinda' slow last night. Dayes might latch on because of special teams.
We have to bare in mind that last night's game was against the Lions backups and backups to the backups. We had some OLinemen playing who are/were starters for us (Reiter being one of 'em).
I thought Hilliard looked kinda' slow last night. Dayes might latch on because of special teams.
We have to bare in mind that last night's game was against the Lions backups and backups to the backups. We had some OLinemen playing who are/were starters for us (Reiter being one of 'em).
Reiter is not a starter for us. He is the backup OC to JC Tretter. The only starter was Zeitler, and that was because he needed the work, not having played yet this season. Otherwise the Browns had all backups playing on both offense and defense, and perhaps even some special teams. (I know the return men were backups)
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I thought Hilliard looked kinda' slow last night. Dayes might latch on because of special teams.
We have to bare in mind that last night's game was against the Lions backups and backups to the backups. We had some OLinemen playing who are/were starters for us (Reiter being one of 'em).
Reiter is not a starter for us. He is the backup OC to JC Tretter. The only starter was Zeitler, and that was because he needed the work, not having played yet this season. Otherwise the Browns had all backups playing on both offense and defense, and perhaps even some special teams. (I know the return men were backups)
Reiter is not a starter for us.
He started games for us. And Corbert played.
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Duke is not moving to WR.
Dayes is 4th RB and Special teams if he survives the bubble.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Duke is not moving to WR.
Dayes is 4th RB and Special teams if he survives the bubble.
Zombo
Duke will be listed as a RB. Where he lines up on the field is another matter.
Edit: Reiter has some game to him. I feel very comfortable with him backup up Tretter.
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Reiter is not a starter for us.
He started games for us. And Corbert played.
He started games for us. And Corbert played.
He has started one game in his career, two years ago:
Games
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Duke is not moving to WR.
Dayes is 4th RB and Special teams if he survives the bubble.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Duke is not moving to WR.
Dayes is 4th RB and Special teams if he survives the bubble.
Zombo
I'd rather lose the FB
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Zombo said:
Duke is not moving to WR.
Dayes is 4th RB and Special teams if he survives the bubble.
Zombo
I'd rather lose the FB
I'd rather lose the FB
But he’s Vitale to our success.
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