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  • the Browns are going to have one hell of a tough time, with losing guys off their practice squad now.

  • I thought Hilliard looked kinda' slow last night.   Dayes might latch on because of special teams.

    We have to bare in mind that last night's game was against the Lions backups and backups to the backups.  We had some OLinemen playing who are/were starters for us (Reiter being one of 'em).

  • I thought Hilliard looked kinda' slow last night.   Dayes might latch on because of special teams.

    We have to bare in mind that last night's game was against the Lions backups and backups to the backups.  We had some OLinemen playing who are/were starters for us (Reiter being one of 'em).

    @orion said:

    I thought Hilliard looked kinda' slow last night.   Dayes might latch on because of special teams.

    We have to bare in mind that last night's game was against the Lions backups and backups to the backups.  We had some OLinemen playing who are/were starters for us (Reiter being one of 'em).

    Reiter is not a starter for us.  He is the backup OC to JC Tretter.   The only starter was Zeitler, and that was because he needed the work, not having played yet this season.  Otherwise the Browns had all backups playing on both offense and defense, and perhaps even some special teams. (I know the return men were backups)

  • @orion said:

    I thought Hilliard looked kinda' slow last night.   Dayes might latch on because of special teams.

    We have to bare in mind that last night's game was against the Lions backups and backups to the backups.  We had some OLinemen playing who are/were starters for us (Reiter being one of 'em).

    Reiter is not a starter for us.  He is the backup OC to JC Tretter.   The only starter was Zeitler, and that was because he needed the work, not having played yet this season.  Otherwise the Browns had all backups playing on both offense and defense, and perhaps even some special teams. (I know the return men were backups)

    @the-gipper said:

    Reiter is not a starter for us.

    He started games for us.  And Corbert played.

  • Duke is not moving to WR.

    Dayes is 4th RB and Special teams if he survives the bubble.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Duke is not moving to WR.

    Dayes is 4th RB and Special teams if he survives the bubble.

    Zombo

    Duke will be listed as a RB.  Where he lines up on the field is another matter. 

    Edit: Reiter has some game to him.  I feel very comfortable with him backup up Tretter.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Reiter is not a starter for us.

    He started games for us.  And Corbert played.

    @orion said:

    He started games for us.  And Corbert played.

    He has started one game in his career, two years ago:

    Games

     
    Year Age
    Career
    2016 25
    2017 26
    2018 27
    Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS AV

    Career

    And, are you saying that Corbett is going to be a starter?  Has that been determined?

    2016 25 CLE c 62 1 1 0
    2017 26 CLE   62 16 0 1
    2018 27 CLE   62 0 0  
  • Duke is not moving to WR.

    Dayes is 4th RB and Special teams if he survives the bubble.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Duke is not moving to WR.

    Dayes is 4th RB and Special teams if he survives the bubble.

    Zombo

    I'd rather lose the FB

  • Zombo said:

    Duke is not moving to WR.

    Dayes is 4th RB and Special teams if he survives the bubble.

    Zombo

    I'd rather lose the FB

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'd rather lose the FB

    But he’s Vitale to our success.

  • coach Haley handed over the play calling duties to coach Kitchens last night this is a reach   but hell yes could this spell doom for hue as coach Haley takes over and then tells hue to get the fuk off my bus

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    coach Haley handed over the play calling duties to coach Kitchens last night this is a reach   but hell yes could this spell doom for hue as coach Haley takes over and then tells hue to get the fuk off my bus

    @syd said:

    coach Haley handed over the play calling duties to coach Kitchens last night this is a reach   but hell yes could this spell doom for hue as coach Haley takes over and then tells hue to get the fuk off my bus

    So if Kitchens is writing the plays, does that mean every game we’ll be throwing the Kitchens ink at them?

  • Dayes has some speed

    Mayfield has the quickest release and most fearless gun of any QB the Browns have had since returning as V 2.0

    I don't think the pass rush is going to be all that.

    The Sears and Roebuck kid looks as sharp as Mayfield

    TieRod Tylor needs to do his thing and be gone in 4 weeks. The Browns need to build around Mayfield. I have no idea why they even signed that jackoff. He surely won't teach Mayfield anything. Why let him start?

  • Dayes has some speed

    Mayfield has the quickest release and most fearless gun of any QB the Browns have had since returning as V 2.0

    I don't think the pass rush is going to be all that.

    The Sears and Roebuck kid looks as sharp as Mayfield

    TieRod Tylor needs to do his thing and be gone in 4 weeks. The Browns need to build around Mayfield. I have no idea why they even signed that jackoff. He surely won't teach Mayfield anything. Why let him start?

    @ghoolie said:

    I don't think the pass rush is going to be all that.

    Big IF, but IF they are able to trade for Mack, our pass rush would rival Denver's.

  • Preseason final NFL stats  https://www.footballdb.com/stats/index.html  topic if need to..  Browns #1 in points allowed at 46 total points.Balt=72,Cinn.=80,Pitt.,=95?

  • @ghoolie said:

    I don't think the pass rush is going to be all that.

    Big IF, but IF they are able to trade for Mack, our pass rush would rival Denver's.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Big IF, but IF they are able to trade for Mack, our pass rush would rival Denver's.

    Agreed. However, the Browns trading for big names is not exactly high probability.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Big IF, but IF they are able to trade for Mack, our pass rush would rival Denver's.

    Agreed. However, the Browns trading for big names is not exactly high probability.

    @ghoolie said:

    Agreed. However, the Browns trading for big names is not exactly high probability.

    Too late now since he's headed to Chitown.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Agree about the 2's. We wanted to increase our depth talent and we've done that to some degree. 

    The penalties are crazy, especially on punt/kick returns. I saw us literally push people in the back directly in front of the refs. Really guys? How many times last year did we see flags on returns? 75% of the time? Maybe that's exaggerating, but it seemed like it. 

    Cajuste did ok, although I admit to not watching him specifically. Besides that one drop, did he make mistakes? And that drop wasn't the easiest play. The defender made an excellent play getting the ball out. Does Cajuste need to snatch that ball and bring it in quickly? Of course. But it wasn't like he just channeled his inner Quincy Morgan and clanged it. 

    I like Dayes, always have. I especially like his acceleration and speed. He hit the hole and just FLEW on the touchdown run. Very impressive. Hilliard does the most with his opportunities, and he's got some wiggle. 

    I've always heard Robeck had an arm, and even the coaches were on film speaking highly of the kid. It was obvious Robeck's timing was a bit off, but once he settled in he made some big time throws. I loved seeing that TD throw! It was a special moment for him, and you could tell how happy everyone was for him and the receiver. Robeck to practice squad? 

    Orchard is toast, but only from our team. That incredible play may not have been enough to make OUR team, but Orchard will catch on somewhere else. I know it. He's been around the QB so much, he'll make the plays eventually. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Cajuste did ok, although I admit to not watching him specifically. Besides that one drop, did he make mistakes? And that drop wasn't the easiest play. The defender made an excellent play getting the ball out. Does Cajuste need to snatch that ball and bring it in quickly? Of course. But it wasn't like he just channeled his inner Quincy Morgan and clanged it.

    Orchard is toast, but only from our team. That incredible play may not have been enough to make OUR team, but Orchard will catch on somewhere else. I know it. He's been around the QB so much, he'll make the plays eventually.

    Besides the bad drop he had issues blocking their 3rd-stringers. Fells lessons did not make it onto the field.

    @calfoxwc said:

    the Browns are going to have one hell of a tough time, with losing guys off their practice squad now.

    Goes with jiggins' thought on Orchard... we're cutting/stashing... even trading... more talented players now than we have in some time.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    well, Tiam, all that should be gleaned from your nonsense criteria of "better" is your fave is the second year player, with a 2.6 career average per carry, only a third down back with a lack of strength to break a tackle...

    got that, Tiamsies? analyze that, bigshot. They are different players - Chubb is a powerful three down back, while Dayes is a third down back that lacks strength.

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          different types of players, Tiam. Your little Tiam critique is crapola 

    *watches game vs lions* 

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    @tiamat63 said:

    *watches game vs lions* 

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    *reads list of cuts...*

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  • @tiamat63 said:

    *watches game vs lions* 

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    *reads list of cuts...*

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    @calfoxwc said:

    *reads list of cuts...*

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    Somehow Chubb made the team.

    Zombo

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Cajuste did ok, although I admit to not watching him specifically. Besides that one drop, did he make mistakes? And that drop wasn't the easiest play. The defender made an excellent play getting the ball out. Does Cajuste need to snatch that ball and bring it in quickly? Of course. But it wasn't like he just channeled his inner Quincy Morgan and clanged it.

    Orchard is toast, but only from our team. That incredible play may not have been enough to make OUR team, but Orchard will catch on somewhere else. I know it. He's been around the QB so much, he'll make the plays eventually.

    Besides the bad drop he had issues blocking their 3rd-stringers. Fells lessons did not make it onto the field.

    @calfoxwc said:

    the Browns are going to have one hell of a tough time, with losing guys off their practice squad now.

    Goes with jiggins' thought on Orchard... we're cutting/stashing... even trading... more talented players now than we have in some time.

    @tour2ma said:

    Besides the bad drop he had issues blocking their 3rd-stringers. Fells lessons did not make it onto the field.

    Goes with jiggins' thought on Orchard... we're cutting/stashing... even trading... more talented players now than we have in some time.

    I would've agreed with you until our latest cuts and signings. We let Meder and Nassib go for two defensive bozos I've never heard of. One was a 2017 7th rounder from the Vikings. Uhhhhh. Why? These are the type of moves that make basically no sense. It's GM's trying to show how smart they are and I HATE THAT. The team loved Meder and Nassib. They were productive (especially Meder) and I don't see the benefit of cutting them for experimental players that won't be on a roster next season. Nassib and Meder will be immediately picked up and probably play significant time this season. Whereas the nobodies WE got instead will probably do nothing. Maybe I'm wrong, but right now it's looking super dumb. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Besides the bad drop he had issues blocking their 3rd-stringers. Fells lessons did not make it onto the field.

    Goes with jiggins' thought on Orchard... we're cutting/stashing... even trading... more talented players now than we have in some time.

    I would've agreed with you until our latest cuts and signings. We let Meder and Nassib go for two defensive bozos I've never heard of. One was a 2017 7th rounder from the Vikings. Uhhhhh. Why? These are the type of moves that make basically no sense. It's GM's trying to show how smart they are and I HATE THAT. The team loved Meder and Nassib. They were productive (especially Meder) and I don't see the benefit of cutting them for experimental players that won't be on a roster next season. Nassib and Meder will be immediately picked up and probably play significant time this season. Whereas the nobodies WE got instead will probably do nothing. Maybe I'm wrong, but right now it's looking super dumb. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I would've agreed with you until our latest cuts and signings. We let Meder and Nassib go for two defensive bozos I've never heard of. One was a 2017 7th rounder from the Vikings. Uhhhhh. Why? These are the type of moves that make basically no sense. It's GM's trying to show how smart they are and I HATE THAT. The team loved Meder and Nassib. They were productive (especially Meder) and I don't see the benefit of cutting them for experimental players that won't be on a roster next season. Nassib and Meder will be immediately picked up and probably play significant time this season. Whereas the nobodies WE got instead will probably do nothing. Maybe I'm wrong, but right now it's looking super dumb. 

    TBD for sure...

    I trust that Dorsey thinks he's improving the team with these moves and with the DL moves I think he has in some aspects, e.g., Odenigbo is a better pass rusher than Nassib. But in total? TBD.

    And Meder wasn't all that... nice player to be sure, but Davis is very stout against the run.